Big Nige was on R4 this morning, available on BBC Sounds for those who might like to listen to him. His friendship with Trump is a bit of an albatross for him.
Ya just don’t get it do ya.
As usual you listen too much to official lines, in this case you listen to official titles…in this case ‘‘Right Honourable Gentleman/Lady.’’…aye right.
I keep telling you to I’m blue in the face mate…
They are all the same !
(I’ll adjust that to the vast majority of them)
Right Honourable?
Nah in it for what they can get out of it for themselves, not honourable whatsoever, backstabbing and fickle, lies cover ups, spin,.and changing opinions and allegiance at the drop of a hat…as well as allegiance.
Look at your history books, Churchill, Eden, Wilson, McMillan, Thatcher, all victims of conspiracy within their party members.
‘Oh today we follow Cameron, we’re all for Europe, /ooh today we have to toe the party line under Johnson, we’re all Brexit, /ooh we’ve got rid of Johnson, revert to type, not wanting Brexit, having to be seen to make it work, but to hell with it’.
Ok simple terms but you get my drift.
We all know the Labour MPs are your heroes, but when they do get in…
Watch this space.
What are you on about? Lord Frost?
Are you unsure about the timeline?
Johnson won a big majority in 2019.
He chose the candidates. He chose his Cabinet. He chose to have a never elected bloke as negotiator.
It was Johnson’s exit deal, and it was implemented before he left office.
Even he hasn’t invented the excuses you are coming up with!
Labour MPs are not my heroes. Where have I ever said anything remotely like that?
I do say that I think Labour MPs, mostly, are less bad than Tory MPs.
We’ve been here before.
I once asked you NUMEROUS times why I should vote Labour, which you continuously evaded and side swiped, btw …you watch too much parliamentary question times mate, it’s actually rubbing off, but knowing you that will be taken as complimentary.
I digress…So essentially you are saying that the Labour are also crap as well as the Tories being crap, ok, …but a bit less crap.
Ok you’ve sold me with the ‘Frangers ppb on behalf of The Labour Party’.
My ‘timeline’ it was a general synopsis to make and explain a point, not a history lesson, hence the use of the words…‘simple terms to get my drift’.
Lord Frost?..not a scooby, Jack Frosts brother?
Excuse my usual trademark ‘ignorance’ on these political matters btw.
You seem to be asking me to tell you that under Labour everything will be great.
Just as Farage and Johnson told you that just leaving the EU would make everything great.
And Faarge is again saying “I have a quick simple fix for a long standing complicated problem”
Not me mate. I try to deal in truths and facts not dreams. lies, and snake oil.
I reckon Labour will be less ■■■■ that the Tories, just as being in the EU is less ■■■■ than being out of it.
So if as you say you think.Labour are bad (but not as bad as the Tories ) how come we never get examples from you of negativity on their part, instead of endless tedious and biased links about ‘how bad the Tories are’, and ‘what.a f_up Brexit is’ whilst at the same time casually rubbishing any examples put up by anybody else if they DARE to come up with something negative about Labour
Some may say you are on an arse cover excercise on here for the future, for if (or when) Labour f.s up.when they get in to power, and the stick you are going to get. Then despite your obvious alliegance to them,.you can come back with your… ‘I deal in facts not snake oil’ routine, 'I never said ’ this or that etc etc.
Forgive me.
I guess you are thinking about how football works?
I guess in footie you support all teams equally?
If a team score a point because of a foul, that is OK?
If team A scores a goal, then the Umpire must award the next goal to team B?
I guess that is why half of your posts are pro Brexit and half are anti Brexit?
50% for Johnson, 50% against?
If I rubbish some of your posts about the Tories/Johnson/Brexit it is because I can.
Put up some strong posts about how brilliant they are, and I simply will not be able to knock them over.
WTF are you prattling on about mate?
Fact is you constantly bore the arses off us with your anti Tory links and vids to illustrate to us how bad they are.
You dont get it that we all know anyhow, but you keep feeling the need to labour (npi) the point.
You then surprisingly state, imply, or insinuate that you also think Labour MPs are bad… but not as bad as the Tories.
So I was pointing out that despite that statement we never get any examples from you of how bad the Labour Party are…
Therefore fully biased.
What is complicated about that exactly?
Ukraine has been given the Brexit Dividend, and then the rest of us got lied to that there never WAS a brexit dividend…
Leaving the EU should and could have given us the power to say NO to further EU/NATO expansion, and averted us all being on the verge of WWIII (so we’re told) instead.
Solve one crisis with the actions that left millions worse off, and the Tories then lurch straight onto the next crisis, which isn’t so easy to get around.
Even Farage isn’t campaigning on the issue of “Averting WWIII”…
I’m surprised there’s not much “discussion” going on here as to the current election run-up…
Slapped some more bets on today… This 400+ seats for Labour seems so bolted on by this point, that it would be a huge upset if they only won with a smaller majority than expected…
Either a lot of Diehard Labour fans are going to be losing absolute fortunes on this election market, or we “contrarians” -are going to absolutely clean up.
Forget the notion of “The bookmakers pricing it up wrong”…
They are only taking the big bets if they can instantly lay it off on the exchanges.
It is these exchanges therefore - that are offering silly prices about events essentially staying where they are right now…
Change wanted? - No change voted for. No change achieved.
If that translates into <20% of seats changing hands, I’m gonna aboslutely clean up on this election…
Silly thing is, Labour winning the election - is still a win for me (326-399 seat range)
I’m only losing - if they do indeed score this 400+ seats…
The Libdems present an even better value bet on
Current seats: 11.
Expected Seats 47.
“Libdems to win less than 30 seats - 20/1” still available…
“Tories to win between 250 and 299 seats - 25/1” still available.
Sure, the Tories still get to lose - but remain in opposition with a tally like that…
Of course, if all the “favourite” options go in - RUK are in for a good time… I can live with all my bets losing, should RUK end up puching the lights out on ALL THREE main parties as a result…
Libdems 31
Tories 249
Labour 401
adds up to more than 650 seats though, so my way of thinking is there’s surely an arbitrage channel here, where ONE of my bets surely goes in?
…Doesn’t take much adjustment in the poll numbers to achieve…
<400 Labour seats
between 250 and 349 Tory seats
<30 Libdem seats - are all wins for me.
Is it really pre-decided who we’re all gonna vote for?
Is the true margin of error the fact that Anti-Establishment voters - are never the ones asked by pollsters “how they are going to vote”.
I always vote.
I’ve never even been asked by the exit pollsters how I voted.
Must have a look about me I guess…
"Not him! He’ll argue the hind legs off a donkey a full half hour!"
Oh… So that’s what happened
I’m very happy indeed with a strong NATO, and… NATO is not equivalent to the EU
AND…
Oh isn’t he?
" Farage vows to increase Army to 100,000 as he launches Reform UK election contract"
That doesn’t help avert WWIII, but increasing our army - DOES help us secure OUR borders rather than those of coutries that are not our allies, and we won’t ever get anything back from…
The best way to avert WWIII right now is to get NATO and Russia to BOTH climb down.
NATO to stop expanding further East, and Putin to sign a treaty that has “no further invasions west” in it.
It is “Lack of Trust” on both sides - that has both sides in the situation we currently see…
…Had the UN not had the peacekeeper bill routinely vetoed - the war wouldn’t have started in the FIRST place.
Tell us why UN peacekeepers for Ukraine backed by Russia AND China - got vetoed hmm■■?
“The Veto” is the biggest threat to peace in our lifetimes!
If we got rid of it, and just went with a majority vote at the UN general assembly all the time…
…Ahh but that would mean the Russia/China bloc getting their way on EVERYTHING all the time…
Politics… Politics…Politics…
Looks like Nige has the Tories rattled, (despite them saying they don’t take him seriously😃,)
They have had Boris 'writing thousands of letters ’ apparentlly, to advise Reform voters of ‘the threat’ of Labour benefiting from their votes.
Presumably aimed at people like me who voted for him last time, and the ones who would have maybe voted for him this time if the Tories had not commited political suicide by pandering to those who virtually manipulated them because of going in a hissy fit about after works parties.
Serves them right for binning thr asset that got them into Labour strongholds…aint happening thus time Rish.
In the meantime, cardboard man Ed Balls (who is usually like a fish out of water on the morning tv show he co.hosts) , had Nigel in knots questioning him about his proposed policies on taxation.
An ex politician interviewing another politician who knows all the tactics of avoiding actually answering a question, an effin annoying feature of being a politician…#allthesame.
Interesting take on things.
Johnson quit as an MP. He did not stand for re-election, at that time.
He isn’t standing for election anywhere this time.
He hasn’t (if he had the headlines would be made) applied to anywhere to be adopted as a Tory candidate.
He quit and (up until this week it seems) done bugger all of use to anyone.
Except for writing some stuff and being employed to go and speak to someone in Venezuela for a business venture.
Oh, sorry, he has been in a short selfie video for Alice Hopkins. He looks like he is “suffering for his art” as a columnist just as Jeffrey Bernard did.
You already know (or should by now) ‘my take’ on the ousting (rather than quitting btw) of Boris, and how and why it happened mate.
The conspirational moves within and away from the party (npi) to achieve it.
Ironically after it was basically him alone who urged otherwise non Tory people to vote for him and his party…(pleeease no stats to refute that.)
So why does it appear to be a surprise to you?
Oh of course I should know…another opportunity to jump on, to hammer home your opinion of him.
That he isn’t standing is no surprise at all to me.
He was sacked as leader of the Tory party, by the party, according to the party rules.
The same rules that got May sacked and him elected as leader.
He resigned as the Uxbridge MP. He likely would have lost that soon it is true, but he was quite able to stand again if he chose to.
If he believed the majority wanted him then he could have stood. He chose to run away.
Between him being sacked as PM and quitting as an MP he did next to nowt.
There is no doubt that Johnson was a very strong vote winner for a long time.
I’ve never said otherwise. He was good at getting elected. Very good.
Pretty useless doing much good at all, but good at getting in.
This time though, although their are still quite a few fans, he is likely to scare off more than he will attract.
Just like Farage, very few feel neutrally about him.
So, I’m not surprised at all that he hasn’t been out helping with the election since he stands to gain nothing from it.
Posted without comment…
Apart from 
Quote: ME…‘‘pleease no links to refute that’’
Omg he actually HAS provided a link ffs.
You seem to have this uncontrollable and psychological desire to ‘be right’ all the time mate, and to go on to try and ‘prove’ it…why is that exactly?
Insecurity?
Fear of becoming unpopular?
And whether you are or not, you convince yourself (but not others) that you actually ARE.
Just an observation btw… dont be starting screaming the words ‘personal’ and ‘attack’ this time.
Not an attractive trait me old mate just saying. 
Much better than being wrong, innit?
Try it sometime.
Why links?
Because I want to. I don’t make my posts according to your orders.
After some posts I get challenged as to the truth of sources, or if my opinions are biased instead of (hopefully) being based on some sort of fact.
Putting a link up straightaway saves time and effort.
No one has to follow them. In fact I am pretty sure that many don’t.
But
All the above is off topic really.
Will Johnson return from his latest holidays to don a skin tight suit and red cape and save the Tories?
EDIT
Forgot! No link, so try this quickie
A ringing endorsement for a Tory candidate. Bet she’s happy
