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you and me can’t. That’s the issue. We work, actually work and not ponce about in offices or stages like ferret face, and because we work PAYE, we’re taxed before we get anywhere near the money we have earned. There has been some tax reduction scheme for lower income folk like us, based around so called “umbrella companies” where your pay first goes to a different company as a fee, they subtract all sorts of costs, maximise any allowances such as travel, then pay you the NMW as PAYE and the rest as dodgy “share payments”

The rich get away with that sort of scheme because they have the financial muscle to sweep up any ‘pay’ as fees to an offshore business. By having the capital and contacts, they can afford the Jersey and Bahamas offices etc. We can’t. So we get caught by the IRS and walloped for back tax and fines. And still lose out more having paid the fees to the umbrella companies. Seldom ever do the rich get caught. And their accountants probably then end up swimming with the fishes.

In a way the rich do pay a tax, but it’s to their accountants who scour the tax rules looking for new loopholes. But when you stand to save perhaps £200,000 in tax by paying an accountant £10,000, that’s a good deal.

Pensioners don’t need help.We need legal action for compensation, against a typical Socialist scam, that mis sold a contributory so called state pension, that predictably turned out to be anything but.
In doing so prevented us from including the costs of a proper pension in wage demands.
Obviously the state pension not being considered good enough for the train driving and public sector management Socialist elite in that regard.

You’d think that our French Communist Party spokesman would be more bothered about those awful French conditions which seem to make drowning to get here, a more attractive proposition for the poor ‘refugees’ , than staying there in Frog land.
Ironically he’s actually right about the EU because now we don’t have the right to move there to live in the Vercors or Haute Savoie and leave Starmer’s new Cuba to its fate.

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At this point in time any ‘information’ that comes from Starmer’s regime or the EUSSR is as believable as any ‘information’ which came out of Pravda or Radio Moscow and/or CCP approved.
So the EUSSR was supposedly funding Le Pens Party ( why and for what ? ) then they fit her up for embezzling the cash and we’re expected to believe that she’s bent without question.

Communism generally wins by infiltration not going up against a well aimed FN rifle and a fleet of B52’s.‘They’ brought down the walls of East Germany and Albania for a reason.
Although with friends like Maoster who needs Commy enemies.

thats what rayner admited to that they needed the housing for the migrants. There is plenty of social housing stock. it is just mismanaged. my ex neighbour was a lorry driver new jeep in the car park. hollidays 2 or 3 times a year yet they had a social housing 1 bed flat paying just under 100 quid a week rent. They could easily of afforded a 1 bed flat on the private rental market. How many people do you know with more kids than fingers taking up a huge house. Or they have adapted two houses into one.

how many of the social housing places round by you are white young people that are genuinly trying to better themselves compared to how many that are full of minorities that have no interest in doing anything to help themselves and belive they are entitled to more.

Yes there are people/families that hit hard times and they deserve a helping hand like everyone else but once they are sorted should they carry on having hand outs and an advantage over others.

Where the argument for supporting illegal immigration falls down, is the lack of explanation or common sense theory about why they risk their lives (again) by jumping in a dinghy at Calais, this after they have travelled thousands of miles through several “safe” western countries in mainland Europe.

What could possibly go wrong? Importing over 100,000 people a year (that we know of), many from countries and cultures who despise and hate our way of life and culture here in the west.

From Franglai’s pov, ‘‘what could go wrong’’ is if him (or one of his) fell foul to one or more of these lawless characters on his local street, just going about his business, like many have…mostly unreported unsurprisingly.
I (only just) stop short of actually wishing it upon him.

Maybe then he would not be so keen to do his best to put a positive spin on all this crap, and start to see what is glaringly obvious to everybody else who does not have some sort of political agenda or blind alliegance to some pathetic cause.

As I have said before my own daughter has been followed (and photographed !! ) whilst out running.

My 15 yr old grandaighter and her friend just walking past has been accosted on more than one occasion.

My other daighter’d friend nearly had her little boy abducted in Asda ffs.

R4pes and attacks have increased over the last few years, it is what happens when young fit testostrrone laden young men have nothing to do, especially the variety who have no respect for our laws, culture, or women…

But in Franglais cosseted little world all this is pure fantasy,..they are all welcome here’ .
They are poor families, doctors and scientists fleeing horrors of war, waiting to ply their valuable trades,.and enhance our society, once they gain citizen status in the UK…
They only just ‘happen’ to be here under circumstance, it isn’t that they have risked their lives by leaving an already safe country (ies) conciously coming here for a second to none incentive, or anything like that…nope, all genuine refugees.:joy:

The descriotion of ’ Total Delusion’'does not begin to cover it.:joy::joy:

So if all this has been going on, (and as a realist I accept it has) why have the loopholes you mention not been closed?
Why has this type of practice not been either reduced, curbed, or stopped… by this Labour relatively new socialist government that you obviously favour?

Because they too are as rotten to the core with corruption and self serving on the gravy train as the last one…and the last before that,.and the last before that, and the la…you getting the picture?

It is how the ‘real world’ operates,.they are ALL the same…only the terminally naive believe different.

So instead of gobbing off and pi55ing against the wind, moaning about political and social injustice towards us…‘The working class plebs’ (as they see us)
You do one of two only availabke options…

You either keep your head down,.deal with it all the best you can, win some and lose some, get a one over them from time to time by not being honest to your own detriment, fight fire with fire, ( instead of being some sort of servile borg,) and live your life best you can among it…and more important shut the f. up about it instead of boring the arse of people with pointles bravado and rhetoric.

Or…

Start your own revolution in your kitchen and sort things for us.
As Lenin once said…(sorry Lennon.:joy:)
‘Power to the people, …right on.’

Let me guess, “not reported” …except on Facebook and Youtube etc? Or

Those who “have been mugged” etc will not report things to the Police etc, because? Why?
Because they are part of the subdued herd who don’t want to “grass up” others?
Because they think the Police will do nothing? Of course they won’t do anything if they aren’t told!

Why would genuine crimes not be reported? Why allow criminals to continue?

However, since you know about these “unreported crimes”, please share with us how you know?
From the same sources that told you “the truth” about Covid, and vaccines etc?

And what is the source of this?

It deosn’t seem to be these sources

https://crimerate.co.uk/violence-sexual-offences#:~:text=This%20is%20a%20decrease%20of%205%25%20from%202023's,rate%20of%2035.97%20per%201%2C000%20people%20for%202023.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/315500/sexual-offences-england-wales/

Firstly how many more times?
I do NOT do Facebook.
When I said ‘reported’ I did not mean to the Police, I meant ‘reported’ in the context of the local press.

But hey! Everything’s cool man, so just you stay cocooned in your own little picturesque little world mate,.where all bad can be '‘explained’'and everything is lovely…

Oh we are back to one of your favourite specialist subjects now eh?..covid, :roll_eyes:
One of your more spectacular 'useful idiot campaigns.:joy:
The ‘‘irregulars in their hostels’’ b/s is fastly becoming a close second, keep it up,.
And thanks for your latest official line/official figures offering, you continue to do a sterling job as ever.
Your political mentors will be so proud.
:joy::joy::joy:

Thank You. I now see what you mean.
So, these crimes are reported to the Police, and recorded officially.

Your complaint seems to be that your local papers do not report them as highly as you think they should then?

Straw man.

My specialism?
You are the one who claims to know better the NHS, WHO, and indeed more than 99% of the medics (cue Clarkson accent) in the world.

In a separate post so it isn’t lost

I’ll ask again

What is the source of that?

Ask wtf you like.:grin:

Look mate I live in my own city, I keep my ears to the ground, I know people, guys on club and pub doors for examle who have witnessed and sometimes stopped or prevented all this kind of stuff…
They have told me of many occasions, sorry I can not provide statements and photographic evidence.:roll_eyes: but you choose not to believe me anyaway,.so crack on.
I even know a lad in the CID…
You would not understand, it’s called ''Living in the real world, you should try it sometimes.

I have no need to explain myself or justify myself, or prove anything to a deluded naive and brainwashed individual like yourself..

Stick to your world of theory, and what you read, it’s what we expect of you on here.

No…you just say I have.
You are the aspiring and wanbabe politician (of the armchair variety) not me.

So the Tories only today are again pushing for a National enquiry into the well documented and hushed up Asian / Muslim r4pe gangs. Along with this they are also requesting that the race / religion of future perpetrators is recorded. This would leave no stones unturned. Of course the “useful idiot” franglais, if the proposals are accepted, will read into the figures as he seems fit, just like the 6% overall Muslim UK population but a UK Muslim prison population of approximately 3 times that % which he states “seems fair” :joy::joy::joy:

Where did I say that?

Care to give the full quote?
So we can all see the full context and what I may have been referring to?

:joy::joy::joy: go trawling franglais, you know very well what I am referring to.

You allege I said something.
Maybe I did, maybe I didn’t. If I dii in what context did I use those words.

Show where I said I said it.