Same here.
It was Christmas, we were not going to spoil it just because a few ■■■■ s in parliament said so.
Also knew of at least one pub that was always open.
The usual gullible servile covid bleaters will retort by ‘How many people died because of that’.
None…they can say wtf they like.
thats what winds me up they were all up in arms about a perfectly legal bday drink after work. However driving in london at the time you couldnt move half the time for all te people walking around in great hordes with no masks and the police just standing there watching them.
dont forget the party that labour had up north nothing said about that that was perfectly fine
Me too. By the time Christmas 2020 rolled around we had long since stopped being propaganded by the media and all the covid sheep that we were all going to die from a cold. Life was normal for us. Xmas day at home with the kids and presents etc then boxing day off up to Lancashire from Nottingham to spend the rest of the Xmas/New Year period staying with family.
Ironically when we got on the M1 boxing day morning the motorway was packed, it appears lot’s of people thought the same.
And people seem up in arms over kier Starmer accepting gifts of suits and glasses and arsenal tickets but that is perfectly legal too
Just because something is legal doesn’t make it right
It’s entirely possible for something to be legal but also immoral at the same time.
well if you want to give me 40 grand for suits and glasses and get nothing back in return ill shutup. oh wait he did give things back in return influence and keys to downing street. maybe thats what people are upset about
And if the rumours are true, …nah lets not go there, FB people have been jailed for less.
at least three things in this video
labours plans to rejoin the eu
labour easing illegal immigration laws
rayner allowing china to build the biggest embassy in europe in london despite warnings from the security services and others.
Of course they are, …
What do you expect, from a more Left than usual version of The Labour Party.
The Left …both leaders and followers have a characteristc of constantly pontificating with an arrogant and patronising air of…‘We know better than you’’ and ‘‘We know something that you do not understand’’ type stance, and then the hierarchy go on to do things way out of touch and directly at odds with their people.
The EU…
What do you expect ftom a pro EU party who have been determined to get us back in, in all but name, and through the back door since day 1
Illegal immigration…
What do you expect from a party whose first action was to ban the deterrent being set up by their opposition…but then have done zilch to stop it, other than spouting ridiculous no grounds rhetoric b/s sound bites…‘Smash the gangs’'. 
A party who have managed in their first few weeks of power not only to alienate their target class…but also and including those who voted for them weeks before.
So now they have discovered they can re.coup lost votes and more… by the Asian/Moslem vote, who seem to favour them.
So now they have been clearly seen to both pacify and favour that demograhic many times so far…
He aint known as 2 tier Kier for nothing.
As for cuddling up to Communist China…
What do you expect, from a left wing govt, when our traditional ally and virtual international counterpart has been (yet again) alienated by these clowns by tactless undiplomatic opinions stated previous, that have come back to bite them on the arse.
A pattern is emerging here…they have excelled themselves in such a short time, but not in a good way.
In only 6 months of bad decicisions, bad management, incompetence, lies, misdemeanours, hypocrisy snd corruption, they have actually succeeded in creating a ‘‘Come back Tories all is forgiven’’ scenario (although we all knoe they are both as bad as each other in different ways.)
A new party is needed, with fresh faces does anybody know one?
(I just said that last bit to pi55 off the Leftys btw 
)
Only redeeming feature of all this is they sure as hell will not get back in.
i know you dont want a response but i do think if people dont want farage then we could have trump!
it will be too late if we have to wait till the next ge is due. (we all know that nearer the time they will introduce some change of law that will keep them in until they can win) By that time the country will be destroyed what ever infostructure there is will be gone and replaced with hospitality and non jobs. we will be beholden to everyone and become a third world country that no one can pull us out of.
Oh sweet Jeezus…you have just made at least one member on here writhe around the floor clutching at his chest and reaching for the beta blockers.
Unfortunately a lot of what you say in your last paragraph may come true.
Saying voting this shower of sh in was a bad move, is the understatement of the year.
We can only hope they carry on the way they are, making enough rope to hang themselves.
On a positive note they may well suddenlly read the room, take notice and get in touch with what the people want, we can only hope
I wont be holding my breath.
£25 for membership of Reform UK for a year. Money well spent.
I have never joined a political party membership in my life…it’s only the sort of thing that grown ups do I thought.
So what does it entail, where does your 25 notes go to, and what do you get for it?
Needing to know as I am starting (only starting btw) to act a bit like a grown up myself, and I may be tempted to join.
Jeez…Grown up stuff…
I’ll be stopping from telling young d/heads gobbing off in pubs half my age to shut the f up and sit down…(even though I aint the doorman) and stopping going into corners far too bloody fast with stereo at full pelt, when I’m on my own in my car next.
Big opinion poll here, survey of 18,000 people. Reform could gain 76 seats which would be massive and unprecedented for a new party but labour still predicted to have a small majority
The polls got it absolutely right last time round
And right now it’s probably the height of labour’s unpopularity. If living standards improve in the next few years then they should easily win another term
Reform isn’t a political party it’s a private company with garage the majority shareholder
You don’t get a vote on who is the leader or what the policies are like normal parties. You don’t get anything
Presumably reform will have to become a party soon but who knows
Join have input don’t join have no input. From little acorns mighty oaks grow.
Despite all my gobbing off, which is just blagging and bluffing on here mate 
I aint really a political type bloke…seriously.
I just like (as I said) trying to shut up smart arses and d/heads who think they know it all…(usually those pertaining to the Left side of things) , and in the case on here… counteracting past mass condemnation of the last govt to get a bit of balance…it’s my new favourite pastime.
I hate woke attitudes, unnecessary political correctness and bloody stupid rules that defy common sense and are usually derogatory to myself and most like minded ‘real’ people…so I actively avoid walking on egg shells in favour of saying what I mean…also on this forum.
I do not gaf about ‘offending’ people, but prefer plain direct speaking…if some people are that easily offended by what life crops up, they should stay in bed.
On the other hand I consider myself a true patriot and love my country, so I hate anybody or any party who basically go all out to f.it up, and especially if priority and special treatment is given to non British people in their own country…
The lefty d/heads consider that racist, but I’m at the stage now if anybody would dare to call me a racist to my face…, yeah, I’d more than likely kick off big style, but I would also look upon it as an indication that if a clown like that thinks I am just that, then I am doing something right, a vindication if you will…
(I aint talking about spineless bravado types who say things on FB and forums, but would not dare approach you, either…they are what they are.)
So bearing all that in mind I have been listening to what Reform say, and a lot correlates with my own opinions…especially my pet hate, illegals pretending to be refugees to milk my country for what they can.
However I aint gullible nor naive enough not to know that any politician of any party is well capable of telling people what they want to hear…that goes without saying.
So working on the fact you can ONLY in these type of cases play with the cards that are dealt on the table, and that modern politics is voting for the ‘least worst’ (to use appalling English grammar ) or who you consider to be best of a bad bunch I would probably support Reform and yeah, even take up membership.
An achievement for me btw… I think the last time I joined some club or another was as a very young kid…‘The Tufty Club’
Google it.
you do indirectly fund the labour party if you join a union a percentage of your dues goes to labour
Yep good point.
Although in principle, (and from a purely selfish pov) I am in favour of the benefits that Unions can bring in a pi55 poor industry like this one, and aint ashamed to say so…and why would I be.
I kicked the URTU into touch about 3 years ago when I found them a waste of time after asking for help.
So I am no longer a union member as such.
On other hand, and despite union affiliation to the Labour Party in it’s present form, being that I work for a firm who shall we say aint renowned for good attitude towards their drivers, with all the pi55 takes said attitude brings, if a strong Union made a presence there, I’d join in a heartbeat despite the politics of such.
Not quite correct my friend. If I want any part of my dues to go to a particular party I must opt in. I haven’t opted in so therefore my dues stay entirely within (Unite) in my case.
