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Surely you know the rules of the game by now. Only stuff Franglais posts and has an opinion on is correct.

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Dunno why but that response brought to mind one of them Louisiana paddle steamers thrashing around and barely making headway.

I think Cooper has that one covered with the figures he posted. :roll_eyes:

what hes getting at is he is waiting for me to say they sneak out of ukraine and into other european countries uncounted over unmaned boarders. thing is i already said that. HIs retort is well they must be doing the same out of the uk with out thinking that there is nowhere other than ireland for them to go

so just to keep him happy
ireland:
population 5,255,017
no of people per square km 76
net migration 39,059
ratio of population to migrants 134:1

least this time he didnt say that it wasnt a properl source and then promptly quote from the same source

hope this link works

part 2

something stinks there. they have launched an investigation but thrown the person reporting abuse in jail and doesnt mention the victims name

My firm do a worker appraisal every six months. I’ve never had that before and find it a little weird. Anyhoo my last one went ok, not that I care either way.

In the spirit of six monthly appraisals let’s take a look at our illustrious leader shall we?

Room for improvement and certainly not a team player I’d guess.

Ok yeah yeah…
But he ‘Aint as bad as the Tories’'.
:grin:

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I’m actually in awe of anyone who is on top of their game. A game changer if you will; I’m thinking how Tiger Woods revolutionised golf, how Max Verstappen is moving the F1 goalposts, how Valentino Rossi seismically altered motorcycle racing, how young whatshisname is changing darts. All of them pale into insignificance when ranked against a man who has in six short months become the single most lambasted and vilified individual in the country!

Way to go Tiger, keep up the struggle comrade, you’re doing an awesome job.

Not for Britain admittedly, but for whoever is pulling your strings :+1:

i was told today that reves was doing an excelent job with the economy and the reason companies were folding and interest rates were rising was because the tories were getting their friends in the stock market and banking to crash the ecconomy.

I feel a link coming on anytime soon, of some poll or another, telling us that aint technically accurate…

Although it is. :joy:

Gadzooks! What is this I see before me? It appears that at least one Labour MP has intestinal fortitude.

Rosie Duffield’s resignation letter from the Labour Party. The 53-year-old MP sent a scathing resignation letter to Sir Keir Starmer

She’s just saying what any decent person is thinking.

Here is what she said in full it’s a big read but worth it

Dear Sir Keir,
Usually letters like this begin, “It is with a heavy heart…” Mine has been increasingly heavy and conflicted and has longed for a degree of relief.
I can no longer stay a Labour MP under your management of the party, and this letter is my notice that I wish to resign the Labour Party whip with immediate effect.
Although many “last straws” have led to my decision, my reason for leaving now is the programme of policies you seem determined to stick to, however unpopular they are with the electorate and your own MPs.
You repeat often that you will make the “tough decisions” and that the country is “all in this together”. But those decisions do not directly affect any one of us in Parliament. They are cruel and unnecessary, and affect hundreds of thousands of our poorest, most vulnerable constituents.
This is not what I was elected to do. It is not even wise politics, and it certainly is not “the politics of service”.
I did not vote for you to lead our party for reasons I won’t describe in detail here. But, as someone elevated immediately to a shadow cabinet position without following the usual path of honing your political skills on the backbenches, you had very little previous political footprint. It was therefore unclear what your political passions, drive or direction might be as the leader of the Labour Party, a large movement of people united by a desire for social justice and support for those most in need.
You also made the choice not to speak up once about the Labour Party’s problems with antisemitism during your time in the shadow cabinet, leaving that to backbenchers, including new MPs such as me.
Since you took office as Leader of the Opposition you have used various heavy-handed management tactics but have never shown what most experienced backbenchers would recognise as true or inspiring leadership.
You have never regularly engaged with your own backbench MPs, many of whom have been in Parliament far longer than you, and some of whom served in the previous Labour government.
You have chosen neither to seek our individual political opinions, nor learn about our constituency experiences, nor our specific or collective areas of political knowledge. We
clearly have nothing you deem to be of value.
Your promotion of those with no proven political skills and no previous parliamentary experience but who happen to be related to those close to you, or even each other, is frankly embarrassing.
In particular, the recent treatment of Diane Abbott, now Mother of the House, was deeply shameful and led to comments from voters across the political spectrum. A woman of her political stature and place in history is deserving of respect and support, regardless of political differences.
As Prime Minister, your managerial and technocratic approach, and lack of basic politics and political instincts, have come crashing down on us as a party after we worked so hard, promised so much, and waited a long fourteen years to be mandated by the British public to return to power.
Since the change of government in July, the revelations of hypocrisy have been staggering and increasingly outrageous. I cannot put into words how angry I and my colleagues are at your total lack of understanding about how you have made us all appear.
How dare you take our longed-for victory, the electorate’s sacred and precious trust, and throw it back in their individual faces and the faces of dedicated and hardworking Labour MPs?! The sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice are off the scale. I am so ashamed of what you and your inner circle have done to tarnish and humiliate our once proud party.
Someone with far-above-average wealth choosing to keep the Conservatives’ two-child limit to benefit payments which entrenches children in poverty, while inexplicably accepting expensive personal gifts of designer suits and glasses costing more than most of those people can grasp - this is entirely undeserving of holding the title of Labour Prime Minister. Forcing a vote to make many older people iller and colder while you and your favourite colleagues enjoy free family trips to events most people would have to save hard for - why are you not showing even the slightest bit of embarrassment or remorse?
I now have no confidence in your commitment to deliver the so-called “change” you promised during the General Election campaign and the changes we have been striving for as a political party for over a decade.
My values are those of a democratic socialist Labour Party and I have been elected three times to act on those values on behalf of my constituents. Canterbury made history when its voters elected their first woman, and only non-Conservative, MP since the seat was created in the thirteenth century.
My constituents elected an independent-minded MP who vowed to put constituency before party, and to keep tackling the issues that most affect us here - Brexit fallout, funding for our universities, our desperately struggling East Kent NHS, dire housing situation, repeated sewage pollution and protecting our vital green spaces.
I am confident that I can continue to do so as an independent MP guided by my core Labour values.
Sadly, the Labour Party has never shown any interest in my wonderful constituency in the seven years that I have been in Parliament. But I am proud of my community and will continue to serve them to the best of my ability.
My constituents care deeply about social issues such as child poverty and helping those who cannot help themselves. I will continue to uphold those values as I pledged to do when I first stood before them for election in 2017.
As someone who joined a trade union in my first job, at seventeen, Labour has always been my natural political home. I was elected as a single mum, a former teaching assistant in receipt of tax credits. The Labour Party was formed to speak for those of us without a voice, and I stood for election partly because I saw decisions about the lives of those like me being made in Westminster by only the most privileged few. Right now, I cannot look my constituents in the eye and tell them that anything has changed. I hope to be able to return to the party in the future, when it again resembles the party I love, putting the needs of the many before the greed of the few.
Yours sincerely,
Rosie Duffield MP

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Sums up him and his cronies perfectly, hopefully the media will give it coverage but I doubt it.

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She could be the first of many. I would imagine there are lots of Labour MP’s who now realise they have to get 2 Tier Kier out if they are to have any hope of not being blown into oblivion in 2029.

‘Gadzooks’ ?
You been watching old re.runs of ‘Catweazle’ again mate.:joy:

Yeah Wow…in fact yeah ‘Gadzooks’ :grin: a rarity in the rocking horse sh league…a politician and an MP with integrity.:flushed:

More power to her …She certainly seems to have covered everything, and again another rarity, a Labour MP who can ‘read the room’ and who is in touch with the electorate and ‘real people’ instead of their borg yes men lefty followers.
I would imagine a hell of a lot more will follow suit, maybe with not as much as integrity that she displays though maybe.
I for one certainly hope so.
Btw that Winseeresque post will take our resident expert and Comical Ali tribute act quite a while to analyse, edit refute and precis.:joy:
Maybe keep him quiet for a bit though.:grinning:

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That’d heat a few pensioners homes I imagine. Of course they’d probably gladly give up their warmth by basking in the warm glow of knowing that their allowance is being put to good use by flying this ambassador for Britain around.

I’ve been using gadzooks all my life, albeit in jest. It is an expression dating back to the 1600s, being a contraction of ‘God’s hooks’, referring to the nails fastening Jesus to the cross. Junk culture cannot claim the monopoly of everything :wink:

Kin obscene innit. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:
Could have been worse though, he could have had an after works party in a pandemic… think of the uproar then eh. :joy:

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Couldn’t fault him :beers: :man_dancing:
I had a good few social gatherings :rofl: and good they were too cause we were told they weren’t allowed.