Far from it.
I have said before that those who are here purely for economic gain and are jumping the queue for access should be deported. I have said they should be processed more quickly and get them out quickly.
I have said that we should have facilities in Calais to recognise the scammers earlier on.
We’ve had such facilities in Calais for years. They come from UK in Transit vans laden with soup and sleeping bags to aid and abet the ‘irregulars’ and to frustrate attempts to turn them back. This agency is better described as ‘anarchists’. They should commandeer a flotilla of small boats from Malta and sail to the coast of Libya to see just how the rest of the world outside the fluffy EU deals with ‘irregulars’. Destination: Davey Jones’s locker.
My point exactly, they are fit young men, possibly some may have some health problems, but why should a special team be sent in purely to treat them thereby allowing them to jump the queue of thousands of people who have contributed to the system all their lives.
Yes very true, but who approached who regarding this hotel. Did the owners (apparently a larger business chaired by Greg Dyke) go to the goverment and say
" we have all these facilities and rooms and despite being fully booked we will cancel everything to allow you to house some irregulars" or
Did the goverment identify the hotel as suitable for irregulars and twist someone’s arm, no doubt financially to allow it’s use.
It seems that in many areas local surgeries are not capable of properly servicing the locals. That has been true for years.
If extra people come into the area, the locals understandably do not want to have to give up their available slots for incomers. So extra health care is brought in.
Is anyone saying that migrants are queue jumping for operations etc? I can’t see that being said, and doubt that is true.
Is anyone saying that the staff treating migrants are twiddling their thumbs when locals are queueing?
I suspect that the extra health staff will be fully employed moving around different hostels and giving treatment at odd intervals in many places, not giving instant access at one place.
We don’t know if they are queue jumping for operations and probably never will!!
As you correctly say local surgeries etc cannot cope with demand. If my wife or I want a GP appointment we have to stay up until midnight until slots are released online and then they are for 14 - 16 days in the future. I would imagine that this is the same scenario across most of the country.
So the moment 300 strangers are imported into the community a team is employed to provide health care for them and only them.
It would not be too difficult to set up a centre somewhere where the team could be employed to take over some of the GP appointments AND provide health care for the irregulars.
Oh yeah, sorry I forgot the rules here. Unless a tedious link is provided its a lie or not relevant.
Unlike you, I don’t spend hours copying and pasting or saving every single thing I read or hear just in case some random lorry driver on a forum may ask me for proof of it 3 weeks later. It’s something I’ve heard mentioned a couple of times recently on the radio and it was read somewhere.
I’ll leave the one man mission to constantly prove everyone else wrong by boring them to death with endless links and articles up to you, I’ve got more important things in life to get on with than trawl back through old stuff I’ve heard or read.
And yet you continue to deride the FACT that the vast majority are fit young men of fighting age in your usual sneering condescending way.
There is no way in hell they are refugees, and if they are where are their women?
Why are they not fighting in the war they claim they are running from?
Recognise the scamners?
Which kin planet do you live on, there are thousands of them… mostly all over here, overehelmed with scammers.
He does not mean it mate, it’s his usual pompous sarcasm.
The official narrative is ‘Young families fleeing persecution and war’ so he swallows it hook line and sinker…it’s what he does.
I have continuously told him of my own problems with these scrotes with my youngest daughter, and my 15 yr old grandaughter, but I’m a ‘‘RACIST’’ apparentlly.
The Altrincham scenario, apparently it is adjacent to a girls academy.
As a Dad and Granda to girls myself I sincerely hope nothing happens to any of them, but imagine the backlash if it did with the so called…‘‘Far right’’.
Young virile men, wanting what young virile men want, and not getting it…and with total zero respect to women, all within yards of rach other
What could possiblly go wrong.
I also read - i-paper I think - that Germany was prepared to fly in the face of ECHR to secure its borders against the latest influxes. Like you, I didn’t squirrel a cutting aside for fear of peddling fake news.
What does Germany think of the ECHR?
It will only talk with the UK about stopping small boats because Starmer has said he does not want to leave it.
Doesn’t sound to me like they are “openly ignoring the ECHR” as @Newlion said he had heard/read somewhere/sometime?
what a load of hogwash.
when you move to a new area you go around the local gp surgeries and find one that is accepting new patients. ie they have a spare slot you aren’t taking anyone else’s place or queue jumping.
if a surgery has to bring in private docs or nurses to deal with the forced influx because they dont have any slots and then new comers (illegals) get to see a doctor or nurse before someone that has been waiting for an appointment then that is wrong.
The NHS and GP relationship is a bizarre one.
I can imagine that the Gov would employ some Drs such as those who travel around in vans doing our driver medicals to do the same traveling visiting hostels.
If they are paying for private care then they are not taking funding from the NHS.
You and I might well expect to get premium service if we were paying loads for private medical care, maybe the Gov are paying just enough to get some sort of service out of Drs who do not want to be NHS GPs for whatever reason?
Who has said that Surgeries are bringing in extra staff?
Yes, that would be very wrong if that were happening.
Has anyone said it is happening?
Or are some people half-hearing, some half-true, things and jumping to some wrong conclusions?
From the newspaper report:-
Asylum seekers are entitled to free NHS care while their claims are assessed.
Rob Bellingham, chief officer for commissioning at NHS Greater Manchester, said: 'We have a duty to secure the provision of safe and appropriate NHS care for people while their asylum claims are being managed.
‘NHS Greater Manchester has made arrangements with a local primary care provider to ensure asylum seekers who have arrived very recently receive the immediate care they need.’
So can the same organisation make the same arrangement for all the local residents that have been waiting months / years for the care they need.
If you so wish, do your usual stunt of trawling through old posts to ‘prove your point’, only this time to prove mine…I personally cba.
If you do, try snd find the one where I told you about a friend of mine who along with his parents have been with the same Doctor’s surgery for decades.
Find the bit where I told you after my mate was struggling to be seen by appointment asap, was told by the receptionist, an old school friend (off the record obvs) that the recent contingent of scumbags in the hotels…( ooops the IRREGULAR migrants in the HOSTELS ) were getting priority, over the local community .
Now this is real world stuff based on a friends first hand experience, along with the intimidation of my own female relatives, of my first hand experience… Not pie in the sky La La Land left wing rhetoric b/s spewed out for gullible f/wits to hear and repeat, so maybe best for you not to try and digest it.
By your blinkered views you are obviously cocooned in an area where none of this stuff goes on…think yourself lucky.
I sincerely hope that 40 or 50 are put in your own town or village, so you can witness what the rest of us do…poetic justice at it’s best.
there isnt an area that isnt affected by it in one way or another. as you say they just swallow the official line about Brexit covid oh and the tory deficit and what ever excuse is in fashion. I have people in my immediate family that believe this bs because they live in a small enclave and have their heads stuck so far up they cant see daylight
I live 11 miles out of the city.
In my local town they are living somewhere, as we see them most days wandering around aimlessly…or maybe they just take advantage of the free travel on the bus into town.
Either way one of these pond life was taking pics with his phone, of my youngest daughter out on a run.
She turned the tables on him and took a pic of him…I posted it on here a while back whilst trying to put across the inconvenient truth to the deluded one.
Liberalism is a fantastic ideal. If everyone was a liberal the world would be a fantastic place.
The problem with Liberalism is naivity. Liberals desperately want to see the good in everyone, but unfortunately for every Liberal there are ten savages who’ll laugh in a Liberals face as they take everything that the Liberal owns or holds dear away from them.
One other problem is that a Liberal won’t acknowledge that simple truth right up to the minute that the savage actually comes into their delicate orbit and wreaks havoc.
It’s that point that the liberal then does a complete 180 and starts screaming for more police powers and government control.
They ain’t fleeing France at the risk of drowning because France is too dangerous to stay.I wouldn’t mind exchanging Surrey for Vercors if the place and price was right.