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As I said previously, this is Starmers way of ‘dealing’ with the problem…let em all stay.
Coming to a hotel or housing estate permanently, near you !..with all the sh that goes with them.
Suddenlly the Rwanda scheme does not look so bad.:roll_eyes:
In fact from Starmer’s pov, the ONLY thing wrong with it was that HE did not think of it first.

60,000…is that a lot or a little?

It is about the same number the Tories gave asylum to in 2023. (67% of 84,000 applicants) That is first time applications only and appeals often push the number up in later years.

In recent years the refusal rate for asylum applicants was at it’s highest in 2004 {Blair} at 88%.
And lowest in 2022, at 22%, under…guess who?
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/

I bet the Torygraph article doesn’t say that.

Do you just walk round with your eyes closed and fingers in your ears going la la la la la?

You are either very deluded and gullible or scared to admit you might actually be wrong.

You think with what we’ve witnessed the last 3 or 4 month’s of this Labour government that they haven’t been up to all of the above themselves? (Maybe bar watching **** in the house of commons).

The disgraceful issue of the winter fuel allowance, freebie gate, blatantly biased 2 tier policing and justice, cancellation of free speech and so on. Had this been the Tories doing this we would never have heard the end of it from you.

Ffs…Here we go again, Franglais trying to stress that the Tories were this that and the ■■■■ other in comparison…aka the 'Hitler and Sutcliffe! analogy. :roll_eyes:

More kin official stats, more official narrative, more links etc…
Nobody except you cares,… trying to justify and put a positive spin on a seriously bad situation does not make it any better.
You are beyond help and reason man, you are like some sort of human brainwashed servile socialist machine.
How many more times?..We all get it ! Yep…the Tories were a crock of sh.
Like everything else in life, it is only a crime when you are caught, they have already been showed to have their fat snouts in anything that is free, how long do you suppose it will take for one or many of them to be caught doing something else illegal or immoral, or something similar on your tedious list…just HOW naive are you exactly?
:roll_eyes:

Just because SOME of their ‘crimes’ have been worse than Labour, (which is hardly surprising when you compare 14 years with 3 months,.so ample time yet to compete…watch this space) does not make them any worse than this lot.

It’s a bit like comparing drowning and burning, one maybe aint fractionally as bad as the other, but both have the same dire result.

My whole point is they are all and both the same… despite you continuosly telling us different in your pompous and naive combination.

You are good at trawling through old posts, try and find the (at least 2 that I remember) occasions where I have fully admitted I have been proven WRONG once even to you ffs…
You should try it sometime, it does not hurt, but I do not think you have the balls nor the character to do so.

Starmer if not started, has continued to turn this country into a dumping ground for human dregs, criminals on the whole.
The asylum system has been a good thing in history over the years to protect and bring to safety persecuted people
…These ■■■■ s are downgrading it at best,.and making a mockery of it at worst…and Starmer (and people like you) just appears to ignore it, whilst calling those who show concern racist and far right.
Ffs open your eyes and get real.

quote/Newlion;
@Franglais ''Do you just walk round with your eyes closed and fingers in your ears going la la la ‘’

YES…:roll_eyes:
(Then Comical Ali manifests himself.)
Next question.:joy:

If this does not adequately illustrate what I have been banging on about, and what everybody with a brain already knows about these illegals coming over here, and their calibre and quality, I do not know what does.
It features our mate Nige, AND on a ‘‘fake news’’ channel,.so anybody who finds the truth uncomfortable, click off…now.

A poundshop wannabee ‘gangsta’ with a kalashnikov tattooed on his face…Mada Pasa, and he’s apparentlly a tik tok celeb.

Have they struggled in shear plight to get to France for the all inclusive holiday in the UK?..has he brought his wife and children to escape persecution?
Nah him and his mates have lived in Sweden for ages…they just fancied a change …ya know how it is.

So they video themselves on what looks like a jolly boys outing having a laugh on their way over here…
Then get on the beach,.and start brandishing a gun.
Oh …they forgot to mention whether they were scientists or solicitors when they arrive here to enhance our society…as the pathetic lefties keep telling us.

Other vids show them allegedlly arriving here…so easy, and making an implied death threat to Farage,…then later yet another threat on a newsreader journalist who gets on his case…a GBN guy, not a mainstream media journo, obvs.:roll_eyes:…because that sort of news does not fit the narrative.

The other vids above are available, on that other unreliable source You Tube, put on there by ‘Herbert’ so check em out if ya can be arsed.
If ya cant…dont.

When is this effin govt gonna wake up, harden up,.and face up to the truth?

Now it has not gone past me that all this could be a hoax for whatever reason, but I’d bet a pound to a penny it aint.
However if it is I will hold my hands up,.
…and my head up to ridicule…not a prob.:smile:

If Labour have been doing all, or any of the things I listed, please tell me? If they have, then my eyes have indeed been closed.

Otherwise it seems that you are seeing things that are not there.

One less to worry about.

A “fighting age”…ummm…err… baby drowned today.

More shear irony from the Labour apologist…WE are seeing things.:joy:
You do actually think you are a politician,.you can not answer a direct question, but instead sidestep tyem wit waffle.
I lost 10 mins of my life that I will not get back listening to PM questions.
Nearly every answer started with…‘That is a very important issue’…while he thoight on his feet of a way of avoiding it, then came the inevitable answer starting with the words…'‘In the last 14 years’…thst is you to a tee mate.
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Yeah it was reported on MSN as they always jump on tragic circumstances like that because it fits and helps their narrative…
Difference is it was also reported on GBN this morning.

So on a percentage of the thousands that have came over in the last few weeks, what was the ratio between fit young men and little children…
Go and check out your official (loaded) stats, and I’ll get on to my local hotels to provide a creche.:+1:

‘Fighting age baby’ :roll_eyes:

What a Kin baloon.:roll_eyes:
:joy:

And the percentage of illegals crossing the channel that are male is?

And in keeping with your usual spiel you highlight a baby dying for your own justification…class.

To redress the balance of “fighting age males” by Farage, and our very own @robroy?
Yes.

And a two year old died last month.

Of course there are more young men coming over. It is hazardous and those with families are less likely to risk women and children.
Why is that a shock to anyone?
But it is a sign that they are no legal safe routes available for many.

Yep, you have pretty much answered my question about being naïve to what’s really happening in the real world and not Franglais land.

You cannot be serious!!!

So is staying in their own countries with the threat of r4pe, tortue and death, (supposedly).

He’s unreal. So out of touch with reality. On that basis he’d actually make quite a good politician.

Yep Franglais, as ever, just like politicians and msm…every opportunity whatever the delicate subject matter may be.
A little baby’s death used as a pawn in a game of ‘narrative’…shocking.

Nobody especially me has said there are no families on board these boats, but they are a very small minority and a rarity.
Only politicians of a certain persuasion and lefty loonies like Franglais refuse to admit that.

Been on to my mate the hotel owner btw, he’s on the case with a creche for all the incoming young kids…so not all bad…he said he’s been looking for a good use for that old red phonebox for ages.:joy:

Quote Newlion.
‘‘He’d actually make a good politician’’

:flushed: Oh no don’t you go encouraging him ffs…, he is bad enough as it is now.
:grin:

So they leave their women defenceless and f.off over here for the life of Reily?..class.
Maybe they should be enlisting, and fighting all these supposed ‘wars’ they are running away from.
Love the way he ridicules and implys refutement and denial of the ‘Fighting age males’ claim…classic Franglais.

Post reply aimed at Comical Ali btw…not truckpro as it looks.

Yep rr, Comical Ali at his best lol. I note no figures from him to show the percentage of illegals arriving by small boats who are males. It’s out there and so simple to publish but no…nothing as yet!

At my reckoning what I see on the news, and the types I see walking aimlessly on the streets …(or in their provided brand new bikes :roll_eyes:…I kid you not btw…
Top of my head 90/'95%