Errr it was you who deemed it important, rather than a throwaway remark mate, saying that her particular trouser suit worsened your suspicions…or words to that effect.
I only adressed YOUR point.
Plus you referred to high profile MPs rather than back benchers.
So no surprises after all eh?
Oh how the tide changes, now defending Labour, who’d have thunk it?
Jeez man , you really are after an argument on something eh?
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Ok go on then… so why would you not have thought it ?
Especially when I have stated clearly I have no real alliegance to any party, and I have also clearly stated that I would like to see Labour, or ANY party, for that matter, make a success of running the country that I love.
I have also stated that the main reason I have been continuing knocking Labour, (apart from the fact that they aint fit for purpose) is to shut Franglais up with his authoritative and derisory opinion that …‘‘Labour aint as bad as the Tories’’.
And re.dress the balance of his constant and incessant whinging about them when they were in power.
So based on that I would have thought quite a few people (who aint bored sh.less with it all) would have ‘‘thunk it’’.
Btw is it the 5 minute argument you want , or the full half hour? 
It’s also seems possible that there actually was an impact assessment but Starlin with held/misrepresented its conclusions.
Did he post the article link himself or did someone just call him out for not bringing it up first? Scrolling back through endless posts to prove a point is not my thing.
Either way he’s a hypocrite mate. Very quick to jump on anyone who has criticised his endless stream of anti Tory links, usually met with a response along the lines of “this is a political thread for discussing political things” (obviously said in a patronising and condescending way). I don’t recall any anti Labour articles being posted the last 3 months, instead its straight back to the tedious Tory and Boris bashing.
I prefer to gauge what people want politically based on how many vote for a particular party rather than the outdated voting system in terms of how that translates to seats in parliament.
Yep let’s all vote for a party which wants to force everyone to go all nuke, bio mass, solar farm powered electric at 30p per kWh.Also supports the Soviet style housing policies and open door immigration policies.That’ll fix the winter fuel costs issue.
With the bonus of wiping out our farmland so we can’t feed ourselves let alone the invading hordes invited in.
Labour by definition means in the interests of the Nation’s working class.Which means minimising the labour supply and maximising the demand for labour to maximise incomes.
Not an open door immigration policy and minimising imports by trade tarrifs and banning all imports made by sweatshop labour.
Removal of all regressive taxation like VAT and fuel taxes and the realisation that net zero is an unnecessary and unaffordable scam.
The realisation that affordable housing doesn’t mean the aspiration of living in a Soviet style urbanisation built on what was our green and pleasant land.
IE the antithesis of Socialism.
The NHS is like the State Pension.It’s just a way for the government to control and ration health care to keep down wage costs and demands.
I would certainly like to see PR rather than FPTP in the UK.
There is still a flaw with looking, under the present system, at how many vote in total for parties. Because of FPTP we have some voting tactically and not voting for their favoured party but voting for the most likely candidate to block a another. Hence many supporters of smaller parties will vote for a party that is not their first choice.
In the last election we can see that RefUK Ltd got more votes than Lib-Dems but many fewer seats. Clearly that is unjust.
None of the above has any relevance to @robroy laughing at a party with 72 seats, and saying a vote for them was wasted, whilst telling us he voted for a party with a handful of seats.
He also laughs at the Greens with their 4 seats. Just one fewer than his party.
Why is it supposedly wrong to laugh at Parties who you admit yourself are standing on a bent electoral mandate v their votes.
The Conservatives and Reform combined got more votes than Labour.
PR allocation of seats isn’t mutually exclusive with FPTP.Labour is a minority government v a majority opposition.
Who has said that some parties are “standing on a bent electoral mandate”? And what does that mean?
@zac_a is correct. Your babblefish has died.
‘His party’ as in ‘MY’ party?
I keep telling you mate, I aint got a ‘my party’…how many more times?
Despite my ‘new found’ interest on TN in Brit politics 
(tic btw)… I aint really that interested in the sense that it is a key thing in my life,.cos it aint…believe it or not!
As I’ve said, all the same, snouts in trough, all in it for themselves…but I aint a naive type of guy to think anything else or take politicians at face value, I just know some are better (and worse) than others.
I’m a shameless mercenary when it comes to voting, I listen to what they all say, (knowing full well 55% is b/s), then decide which one suits me and mine at the time…hoping that they will stick to at least some of their promises.
Hell,…ya know what?
I’d even vote for the limp wristed Lib Dems 
if they made all the right noises at the time, but the Lib Dems correlating with the way I see things with my wide open eyes, is never gonna happen.
As for Reform…more ‘Flavour of the month’ than ‘My party’
Again not naive enough to believe all they say, but a lot of what they say makes sense to a hell of a lot of people who are pi55ed off with quite a number of key issues that this shower of sh is just ignoring.
They will grow, they will either be in a coalition govt, or be the main opposition, whether people like you are comfortable with that or not…laugh as hard as you like.
Watch this space/mark my words, keep this post in your famous archive to use in future.
Just to refer to one of those said ‘key issues’ that are being ignored.
Yep, more trash arrived yesterday…in fact an all time record.
Btw news source BBC this time,.so all is well.
Word has it that Starmer marked that record armed with a case of champagne as a one man welcome party.
How’s his ‘Stopping the gangs’ campaign going btw?
Has he got the same guy in charge of it who is going to get those 2 Airport thugs fast tracked to jail? 
And speaking of the BBC 
…Apparentlly another boat went down, and amongst the usual array of criminal trash, was a family with a 2 year old little boy, who unfortunately drowned, which was horrible in anybody’s eyes.
But… did the MM (especially BBC) have to make it so obvious that they were hammering home so much, and often, a point, to the official line of…‘Families escaping war and hardship’ …
A tad crass and disrespectful to that little boy’s family I reckon, using it ascam opportunity for essentially virtual propaganda.
Sorry to offend the delicate, but I have to say it… what was the father thinking leaving the safety of France to take his wife and little kid on a perilous crossing.
This is going to be interesting, The Reform Party are threatening to take out a private prosecution against the thugs that attacked the police officers at Manchester airport.
And THIS is exactly what I am on about, and the sort of thing that made me and many others of a certain class and demographic vote Reform.
I am not saying that Farage has not been an opportunist to make and prove a point, to further his cause as a motive…but who cares?
At least they are doing more than this present pathetic excuse of a govt are doing, about an outrageous series of events that are being virtually ignored in the hope it will be forgot, and only in fear of ‘upsetting’, (and I am going to say it)…The Moslems.
No doubt this will bring protest, outrage and disapproval from the lefty Liberal bed wetters, but in my eyes that alone is a BONUS
Good on them.
Truly outstanding effort. Proving conclusively that there is no subject which cannot be woefully misunderstood by our interplanetary, most extraordinary member
At 15.36 Farage asks “what has happened”? And answers “nothing”.
Are MPs saying (Tice) “You saw the footage of a shocking assault on police officers” going to prejudice a jury in any future trial?
The idiots are giving a defence team ammunition to get a case thrown out.
What a bunch of irresponsible, publicity seeking, muppets!
In an ideal world all investigations would be done quickly. Of course they would.
But we do live in an ideal world. Investigations by Police forces take time.
Why are RefUK Ltd looking at just this one case?
Why not at all the other cases waiting investigation and a slot in the courts?
As I said: irresponsible, publicity seeking by politicians out for themselves, rather than after justice for all.
From Reuters:
In mid-September, two months after the incident, people on social media questioned why those arrested had not yet been charged, and multiple accounts claimed, opens new tab the case had been “buried”.
Yes but people talk absolute garbage on line all the time, so I hope Reuters understood the context.
Reuter’s verdict on claims that the case was buried, and/or nothing was happening:
VERDICT
Misleading. Investigations into a July 23 incident at Manchester Airport are ongoing, correct as of Sept. 25.
Farage is either lying or is ignorant of the facts. Neither option gets him a place on my Christmas card list.