Political discussions...

No economist can take into account the fact that some people (with money) just don’t want to switch their heating on or only have it set to about 18 degrees or even lower in some cases. They may have been doing it all their lives and getting away with it, which is fine, until the very moment that it isn’t fine.

Additionally, economists can’t help the situation where people spend their allocated money on other things, such as cigarettes, alcohol, expensive takeaways, cars, gambling etc.

Inevitably, like all years, there will be admissions to hospitals. The outraged ones will be trying to make political capital out of it.

Love the way Franglais virtually dodges the crux questions and points put to him in favour of posting ambiguous smart arse answers…presumably he finfs it too uncomfortable to admit he is wrong.
(Not surprised on that one btw)
Then surprise surprise takes yet another oportunity to turn it around to the Tories.:joy:

All you have to do mate is acknowledge the fact that everyone else sees, and that you for whatever reason refuse to admit…
That so far Labour has made and is continuing to make a complete and utter balls up of things in such a short time.

Especially as you needed no prompting whatsoever of criticising the Tories.

Do you actually think anybody on here looks upon you with any credibility any more?..maybe apart from your new found mate who looks like he has taken up position of being your sidekick.:smiley:

Speaking of which…
I wondered why Mr Noremac did not answer my query I put to him a couple of weeks ago…


I asked you what you thought the problem would be to Reform supporters with this guy.
My point was are you coming at it from a race point of view.

Note;
Just to stress NO way am I implying or accusing YOU of being a racist !..
(as I would not have the gall and audacity to put such a gross insult to a complete stranger on a forum…apart from the fact that I have more about my character, …but also we may have met up one day by chance in realworld where I would have to ‘reap the consequences’. :wink::joy:)

There we have it…
A classic example of ‘Defending the Indefensible’ aka robbing and penalising old age pensioners…with the use of pseudo political spin.:joy:

I clicked randomly on a constituency in London. There is very little about him available which leads me to believe he was a potential ghost candidate, but one which potentially could have been voted in and which well over 2 thousand people did vote for. Usually a politician will give a bit of background on the party website. There was absolutely nothing apart from what looked copy and pasted. As you say if the duck quacks…

As for race, wtf??

quote’; Race wtf?..
Ok got it…and I thought I’d explained that one, I assumed you had picked up on the b/s that all Reform supporters were racist that was all.

And I tried to clarify I was not implying you personally were a racist, as it’s a sure way of picking a fight .:smiley:
An old mate of mine (exRM) gave me good advice once…‘Never pick a fight with a stranger or an unknown quantity unless you know their capabilities’…I do not know you from Adam and I am too fond of walking.:joy:
Good advice for others if interested also.:thinking:

I can assure you I did click randomly on that constituency. It may have been pot luck that the candidate was likely a ghost candidate. That is chance.

I am quite placid by the way and if accused of anything random like that I would just walk away.

Ok mate, we’re cool on it…sorted.
We are also evidently very different.:joy:

I suppose like any party Reform would be interested in ethnic diversity. The candidate’s name does suggest perhaps a heritage from outside this country. I would have no idea if this came into the thinking when selecting a candidate. Perhaps he was the only one interested in standing. As I recall, there wasn’t a huge amount of time at hand for all that to be done, especially with the early election.

If you look at my post I also raise the question of if Reform was ready for government this time around. To be honest, I don’t think so. Any party with a realistic chance of forming a government will usually have the first few weeks if not months planned out.

Realistically, Reform would need quite a few to defect I think over the next few years. I would say unlikely they will ever be in government, more of a protest vote at the moment, but things could change.

Nah realistically they would not be ready for govt, and Farage is fully aware of that I would say.
Like them or hate them they have come on a long way in a short time, and have ‘stolen’ a lot of traditional Labour voters, not sure if or how many Tory voters, but certainly a lot of floating or ‘mercenary voters’ like myself.

I would like to think they became the new ‘opposition’, at least…
Most people are sick and tired of the other 2, and at one point they almost became a ‘uniparty’ , or at least very little difference between them from a layman’s pov.

Would they form a coalition with the Tories? and would that actually be a good move…not sure.

Nothing can be done or changed until the present lot are kicked out…unless they stop arrogantly ignoring the views of most people, pick up on their many mistakes, change their ways and reassure the country.

As I said, I for one would be pleased if they did, and made a success of things…but I certainly won’t be holding my breath based on performance and antics so far.

Moving away from the incessant (and tedious) Labour-bashing :roll_eyes:
here’s something different to ponder:

Tory leadership contender Robert Jenrick has stood by his claim that British special forces are “killing rather than capturing terrorists”.

Well, apart from the issue that this loses the opportunity for capture to yield valuable info under interrogation, and the fact that he’s making our SF out to be mindless trigger-happy thugs, rather than the specially selected recipients of million-pound training, I find my empathy cupboard is remarkably bare.

Would-be terrorists perhaps ought to consider the wisdom contained in that old proverb “Those that live by the sword…” etc

Typical Socialist attitude.The leadership knows best and better and will dictate policy.

I don’t know how your people on Magrathea do it, but here on Earth, leaderships of all policical parties do dictate policy (albeit under the contriol of the white mice).

@robroy Your minion is off his lead again, sort him out will you? Or stick his head down the toilet, either will do.

Christ I could not agree more.
My 2 (or 4) word reply to that if it IS true (not convinced) would be…Who tf cares.
The other contender who’s name escapes me is ex Forces who served in Afghan aint he?
I wonder what his take is on that…(both official AND unofficial.:joy:)

My minion? :joy:
Nah my mate Carryfast is harmless.:smiley:

Tom Tugendhat, (aka Tom Tom Tugger, to paraphrase “Cats”) yes, he was a Lt Col in the TA, (so he’s a STAB, if you know the pejorative acronym) apparently served in Iraq and Afghan.
Wikipedia says “He has been known to wear a tie associated with the SBS, prompting speculation that for part of his career he may have worked alongside them”
Looks like he’s the Tory equivalent of those truck drivers that were “on that balcony”. :smile:

I dare say Jenrick and Tugendhat aren’t drinking buddies

In a Northern Irish accent, “and there’s more”.

A certain spindoctor/apologist will be along soon to explain, and put calm to troubled waters…:joy:

Either way I reckon he’s fireproof on all this.
Enourmous wealth to employ THE best brief who will run rings round any Barrister.

Calling in a few favours from Keir and his crew…you dont think he’s done all ‘the stuff’ out the goodness of his heart do ya?

Even knowing Kier with his influence on the legal scene, old school tie with the establishment etc…not to mention the 2 tier legal system…any friend of Keir is a friend of mine, wink wink.

So I reckon he’s got nothing to worry about,.and he’ll be hawking out his NYC luxury apartment to Keir and Angela to celebrate victory…plus a ‘good drink’ in it for them when it’s all done and dusted
:sunglasses:
I dont know how any of these ’ kers lie straight in bed at night, and they used to say Boris was dodgy.:joy:

No, just simply pointing out your hypocrisy and selective posting.

Especially hypocritical from the guy who loves his ‘little victories’ and who is synonymous on here for ‘point scoring’.:joy:
Class.