PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[240_gardner]

Bewick:
I have previously posted some info on the history of the Hunter Octopus GJM 768 which was new in 1960 into the “A” Licenced fleet of J.B. Hudson of Sandside Westmorland. It was the last new motor to join their fleet prior to the death of the owner Mrs. Maggie Bowman ( Daughter of J B Hudson) . I believe that in order to meet Maggie’s Death Duties her Son Raymond sold the haulage business to Athersmith Bros of Barrow-in-Furness. As it turned out the ,then, strict licencing regs prevented Athersmiths from absorbing the 5 motor J B Hudsons fleet into their Barrow based operation so they had to continue operating the JB fleet from Sandside which wasn’t a success so in June 1966 Athersmiths sold the J B Hudson Ltd. business to Davy & Co ( Grange) Ltd who were based in Milnthorpe. Exactly 10 years almost to the day in June 1976 I purchased all of Davys Transport operations which included what was left of J. B. Hudson Ltd which consisted of 3 motors, an Albion 6 wheeler, an ERF 6 wheeler and a Seddon 32/4 unit and trailer.
Cheers Dennis.

Ah Mr Smith, a finger in every Westmorland pie

[bewick]

Hi Chris a.k.a. “The Mysterious Mr. 240 Gardner” !
I haven’t got a shot of the ex J B Hudson Leyland Reiver ( Bathgate cabbed) as I sold it shortly after I bought them out ! Cheers Dennis.

[240_gardner]

Bewick:
Hi Chris a.k.a. “The Mysterious Mr. 240 Gardner” !
I haven’t got a shot of the ex J B Hudson Leyland Reiver ( Bathgate cabbed) as I sold it shortly after I bought them out ! Cheers Dennis.

[vwvanman0]

Dennis, apologies if you have seen this before or took the photo but i spotted it on Facebook today.

Steve

[buzzer]

Hi Dean maybe out of context but just been reading about the Mansell Davies saga and after removing there O licence in this coming February they have been granted a new licence with two of the offspring of the previous operators now going to run what was basically a continuation of the old company, what a farce this is and the TC Nick Denton obviously has no principals at all & allegedly a big fat brown envelope under the table, noting there were substantial fines and costs issued in this case but that does not make this right.
Knowing the country is facing hard times fighting Covid19 especially in Wales this IMHO is still a gross misjudgement of the situation, they should have not been able to continue as it just makes a joke of the whole transport commissioning system. As there main business was hauling milk this probably influenced the decision to grant another licence as to find replacement haulage in bulk milk in a short time would not be easy and the farming community would have surely suffered, having said that they did have three months to achieve an alternative.
In conclusion one feels they have set a precedent in the transport world which could be referred to in other case scenarios, the old management team banned indefinitely with two siblings allegedly now running the show or that’s how it is portrayed, just my opinion of course but it was a big let off by any means, Buzzer.

[ramone]

These were a common site all over Leeds and Bradford and probably surrounding areas in an age when drivers took their lorries home at the end of their day

[tonyj105]

i did , and on this occasion right outside my front gate.

tony

[classicman]

Tony, that livery looks a lot like H.C.Davies of Corby

[ramone]

tonyj105:
i did , and on this occasion right outside my front gate.

tony

Your helper in the passenger seat?

[arcdaz]

5thwheel:

DEANB:
Hall Aggregates Constructor.
Hello Dean a nice mixed batch of pictrues again i think this Hall Aggregates constructor is the truck my friend now owns who is based in tilbury in essex Tony Gothard had a fleet of ex Rmc tippers and they were going to be used for the film work Hell drivers but sadly didnt happen due to heath and Safety and plus the low emission zones in London and other parts of the couteys a great shame really as a group of us was looking foward to it going head Daz
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Curran Leyland Reiver loaded with Portland stone. Looks a tad heavy on the drivers side.

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Topaz Kitchens Seddon Atkinson.

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H.E.Rygor & Son DAF. Anyone know where they were based ■■

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Anyone know where W & J Hunter were based ■■

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Looks like a Hammonds Transcon looking at the door. However i am sure they were a different colour ■■

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“240Gardner” Thomas Allen Seddon Atkinson parked in Poole lorry park.

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M & W.N.Todd Scania. Anyone know where they were based ■■

Anyone recognise where that round about is as i dont recognise it ■■

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Looks like one of Chris Dares who use to have a yard at Hampreston.

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“Boardo96” Do you remember Blandford & Webb ? Spent hours as a kid tipping at there mill in Blandford.

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Rygor and son are from Westbury Wiltshire Dean.

David

[mark_r]

Really enjoyed the recent piece about Crooks Seddon Atkinson tipper, but that exhaust pipe looks extremely vulnerable hanging down that low under the front bumper. I wonder why it was speced that way instead of the traditional place under the chassis, or even vertically up the back like many are…

[ec11]

DEANB:
Hall Aggregates Constructor.

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Curran Leyland Reiver loaded with Portland stone. Looks a tad heavy on the drivers side.

8

Topaz Kitchens Seddon Atkinson.

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H.E.Rygor & Son DAF. Anyone know where they were based ■■

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Anyone know where W & J Hunter were based ■■

5

Looks like a Hammonds Transcon looking at the door. However i am sure they were a different colour ■■

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“240Gardner” Thomas Allen Seddon Atkinson parked in Poole lorry park.

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M & W.N.Todd Scania. Anyone know where they were based ■■

Anyone recognise where that round about is as i dont recognise it ■■

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Looks like one of Chris Dares who use to have a yard at Hampreston.

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“Boardo96” Do you remember Blandford & Webb ? Spent hours as a kid tipping at there mill in Blandford.

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m&wn todd were based in Alston in ■■■■■■■

[deanb]

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

Good stuff Chris,thanks for the photos. Heres a few more clippings and a bit about the converion to a rigid in 1976.

Thanks for that, Dean - you do have some stuff filed away!!

smallcoal:
Mansell davies are trading under mds logistics limited from 1,st jan and m Davies ceases 1st week of feb

Cheers John.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

“240Gardner” Thomas Allen Seddon Atkinson parked in Poole lorry park.

Perhaps there was less fuss made in that part of P&O but, in Pandoro, the shop stewards would be looking out for this chap, as the “cab hotel” was severely frowned on!

W & J Hunter…

They’re a big West Lancashire produce company, with a sizeable transport arm of their own

huntapac.co.uk/

You’ll have seen their old motors about too: the late Bill Hunter built up a large collection of immaculately-restored lorries, and also a coach, to the extent of setting up a private museum. Unlike in many cases, this has been maintained after his passing

Thanks for the info on Huntapac and those truck photos of Bill Hunter are immaculate. Must have cost a fortune to have them restored to
that condition.

tribsa:
HI Dean & Paul

Still great effort from both of you
Rygors come from Westbury still going & are Merc dealers

Hunters come from Preston branded Huntpack

Cheers

Richard

Thanks for that Richard the name Rygors rung a bell !

5thwheel:
“DEANB”

H.E.Rygor & Son DAF. Anyone know where they were based ■■

Rygor and son are from Westbury Wiltshire Dean.

David

Thanks David !

windrush:
“240 Gardner”

Here are some factory photos of the SA participant on its home ground:

Incidentally, the 6x4 rigid in the middle of the second photo, was actually rebuilt out of a J-reg Mk.2 tractor

That front mounted silencer would have lasted about a day on our job!

Pete.

I think that was something to do with your driving Pete !

windrush:
The Curran ‘Reiver’ is actually a Super Mastiff Dean. Certainly got a fair jag of stone on its back.

Pete.

I did that on purpose Pete to see if anyone was paying attenion…

Must admit i did not click on the pic as its the same cab as the Reiver and Clydesdale and Boxer. What was the difference
between the Mastiff and Reiver Pete as they look identical ■■ Mastiff was more powerful.

Heres a bit on the Super Mastiff.

Click on twice.

Never scanned page 56 as not important.

Bewick:
“240 Gardner” “DEANB”

W & J Hunter…

They’re a big West Lancashire produce company, with a sizeable transport arm of their own

huntapac.co.uk/

You’ll have seen their old motors about too: the late Bill Hunter built up a large collection of immaculately-restored lorries, and also a coach, to the extent of setting up a private museum. Unlike in many cases, this has been maintained after his passing

I have previously posted some info on the history of the Hunter Octopus GJM 768 which was new in 1960 into the “A” Licenced fleet of J.B. Hudson of Sandside Westmorland. It was the last new motor to join their fleet prior to the death of the owner Mrs. Maggie Bowman ( Daughter of J B Hudson) . I believe that in order to meet Maggie’s Death Duties her Son Raymond sold the haulage business to Athersmith Bros of Barrow-in-Furness. As it turned out the ,then, strict licencing regs prevented Athersmiths from absorbing the 5 motor J B Hudsons fleet into their Barrow based operation so they had to continue operating the JB fleet from Sandside which wasn’t a success so in June 1966 Athersmiths sold the J B Hudson Ltd. business to Davy & Co ( Grange) Ltd who were based in Milnthorpe. Exactly 10 years almost to the day in June 1976 I purchased all of Davys Transport operations which included what was left of J. B. Hudson Ltd which consisted of 3 motors, an Albion 6 wheeler, an ERF 6 wheeler and a Seddon 32/4 unit and trailer.
Cheers Dennis.

Thanks for the comments Dennis. Intresting stuff chap,heres a bit about Raymond Hudson.

Click on pages twice.

pete 359:
Hi Dean,
Great photos as always mate.Tony Powell are based in Llandybie near Ammanford.Nigel Groom is a Bridgend based owner driver,that MAN has been sold and replaced with a version 4 Fh,I think he pulls for FSEW?

Thanks for the info Andrew. Sounds like Nigel Groom made a good choice there buying the Volvo.

Bewick:
Hi Chris a.k.a. “The Mysterious Mr. 240 Gardner” !
I haven’t got a shot of the ex J B Hudson Leyland Reiver ( Bathgate cabbed) as I sold it shortly after I bought them out ! Cheers Dennis.

Nice pics Dennis. Who did the sleeper conversion on the Seddon ? Heres a company not a million miles from you.

Click on twice to read.

Buzzer:
Hi Dean maybe out of context but just been reading about the Mansell Davies saga and after removing there O licence in this coming February they have been granted a new licence with two of the offspring of the previous operators now going to run what was basically a continuation of the old company, what a farce this is and the TC Nick Denton obviously has no principals at all & allegedly a big fat brown envelope under the table, noting there were substantial fines and costs issued in this case but that does not make this right.
Knowing the country is facing hard times fighting Covid19 especially in Wales this IMHO is still a gross misjudgement of the situation, they should have not been able to continue as it just makes a joke of the whole transport commissioning system. As there main business was hauling milk this probably influenced the decision to grant another licence as to find replacement haulage in bulk milk in a short time would not be easy and the farming community would have surely suffered, having said that they did have three months to achieve an alternative.
In conclusion one feels they have set a precedent in the transport world which could be referred to in other case scenarios, the old management team banned indefinitely with two siblings allegedly now running the show or that’s how it is portrayed, just my opinion of course but it was a big let off by any means, Buzzer.

I imagine that they will be under close scrutiny Buzzer.

[deanb]

ramone:
These were a common site all over Leeds and Bradford and probably surrounding areas in an age when drivers took their lorries home at the end of their day

Nice pic “ramone”

Heres a bit on A One Transport.

Click on pages twice to read.

tonyj105:
i did , and on this occasion right outside my front gate.

tony

Nice pic Tony.

classicman:
Tony, that livery looks a lot like H.C.Davies of Corby

ArcDaz:
“DEANB” Hall Aggregates Constructor.
Hello Dean a nice mixed batch of pictrues again i think this Hall Aggregates constructor is the truck my friend now owns who is based in tilbury in essex Tony Gothard had a fleet of ex Rmc tippers and they were going to be used for the film work Hell drivers but sadly didnt happen due to heath and Safety and plus the low emission zones in London and other parts of the couteys a great shame really as a group of us was looking foward to it going head Daz

That rings a bell Daz. Pretty sure there was something about him in one of the magazines,which i think i have but not scanned and no idea
what magazine it was in.

Mark R:
Really enjoyed the recent piece about Crooks Seddon Atkinson tipper, but that exhaust pipe looks extremely vulnerable hanging down that low under the front bumper. I wonder why it was speced that way instead of the traditional place under the chassis, or even vertically up the back like many are…

Thanks for your comments Mark.

ec11:
“DEANB”

M & W.N.Todd Scania. Anyone know where they were based ■■

Anyone recognise where that round about is as i dont recognise it ■■

m&wn todd were based in Alston in ■■■■■■■

Thanks for that “ec11”

[deanb]

P.M.Rees Volvo.

Mars Jones MAN.

TWT Logistics MAN.

Alan Jones & Sons Renault.

Not sure if we have had a Jack Trans motor on before ■■

Reg Bowen & Sons DAF.

Cant make the name out on the ERF ■■

Anyone know where Ryan Transport are based ■■

K.J.Services Volvo.

S.J.Clarke & Sons live stock Volvo.

[windrush]

windrush wrote:
The Curran ‘Reiver’ is actually a Super Mastiff Dean. Certainly got a fair jag of stone on its back.
Pete.
(DeanB) I did that on purpose Pete to see if anyone was paying attenion…
Must admit i did not click on the pic as its the same cab as the Reiver and Clydesdale and Boxer. What was the difference
between the Mastiff and Reiver Pete as they look identical ■■ Mastiff was more powerful.(quote)

Well apart from the chassis (Guy) suspension (upgraded Albion) axles (Maudslay), engine (Perkins) and gearbox (either Turner or Fuller) they were identical Dean!

Pete.

[deanb]

windrush:
windrush wrote:
The Curran ‘Reiver’ is actually a Super Mastiff Dean. Certainly got a fair jag of stone on its back.
Pete.
(DeanB) I did that on purpose Pete to see if anyone was paying attenion…
Must admit i did not click on the pic as its the same cab as the Reiver and Clydesdale and Boxer. What was the difference
between the Mastiff and Reiver Pete as they look identical ■■ Mastiff was more powerful.(quote)

Well apart from the chassis (Guy) suspension (upgraded Albion) axles (Maudslay), engine (Perkins) and gearbox (either Turner or Fuller) they were identical Dean!

Pete.

That made me laugh Pete !

Both used the same cab so thats why i assumed it was a Reiver. Both look identical to me.

[mantronic]

DEANB:
P.M.Rees Volvo.

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Mars Jones MAN.

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TWT Logistics MAN.

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Alan Jones & Sons Renault.

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Not sure if we have had a Jack Trans motor on before ■■

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Reg Bowen & Sons DAF.

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Cant make the name out on the ERF ■■

3

Anyone know where Ryan Transport are based ■■ Hey Dean ,based on Cardiff docks ,seen them on scrap work ,brill pics and thanx for the MD pic ,MT

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K.J.Services Volvo.

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S.J.Clarke & Sons live stock Volvo.

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[maggied]

Hi Dean,

Here’s my Super Mastiff served me well on a hard job.

Merry Christmas to you and Paul and thanks for all your effort on this brilliant forum.

Regards
Richard

[ramone]

DEANB:

ramone:
6These were a common site all over Leeds and Bradford and probably surrounding areas in an age when drivers took their lorries home at the end of their day

Nice pic “ramone”

Heres a bit on A One Transport.

Click on pages twice to read.

5

4

3

2

1

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tonyj105:
i did , and on this occasion right outside my front gate.

tony

Nice pic Tony.

classicman:
Tony, that livery looks a lot like H.C.Davies of Corby

ArcDaz:
“DEANB” Hall Aggregates Constructor.
Hello Dean a nice mixed batch of pictrues again i think this Hall Aggregates constructor is the truck my friend now owns who is based in tilbury in essex Tony Gothard had a fleet of ex Rmc tippers and they were going to be used for the film work Hell drivers but sadly didnt happen due to heath and Safety and plus the low emission zones in London and other parts of the couteys a great shame really as a group of us was looking foward to it going head Daz

That rings a bell Daz. Pretty sure there was something about him in one of the magazines,which i think i have but not scanned and no idea
what magazine it was in.

Mark R:
Really enjoyed the recent piece about Crooks Seddon Atkinson tipper, but that exhaust pipe looks extremely vulnerable hanging down that low under the front bumper. I wonder why it was speced that way instead of the traditional place under the chassis, or even vertically up the back like many are…

Thanks for your comments Mark.

ec11:
“DEANB”

M & W.N.Todd Scania. Anyone know where they were based ■■

Anyone recognise where that round about is as i dont recognise it ■■

m&wn todd were based in Alston in ■■■■■■■

Thanks for that “ec11”

I vaguely remember reading that Dean when it was published , i knew a few of their drivers , i can`t remember the name of the bloke who took over A One but he was a serial ■■■■ , he ruined Barnfather in Durham , he bought Henry Longs through A One then he asset stripped and closed them both , someone on here may be able to put it in better english than me