Album pics. Not taken by me.
Mansel Davies Volvo F10. Odd colour maybe on a contract ■■
Sayers Scania. They had a great looking colour scheme.
David Garnham Roadtrain.
Chancelot Mill Atkinson.
Kenyon Seddon Atkinson 401.
Smith for Service GUY.
Tarmac Foden.
Thory ERF
ARC Routeman.
Rudgwick Transport bedford TM.
“What’s the make chaps?” It’s a Commer. 
Pete.
Hi Dean,
The ERF Fire engine you posted here was a Swansea Fire engine…it was based at the old Swansea Fire station in Alexandra Road in the town centre…this engine also had a sister JTH 776P …Regular sight on the roads of Swansea in the mid to late 70s.
Regards Mark
I’d think the west brick B series would belong to frank Tucker as it looks likes the weight plate on the door by the mirror arm which is something he’s known for .
DEANB:
Anyone driven a fire engine ■■?
Dean yes i have drove quite a few fire engines over years as i did own ten of them at one point al were ex London fire brigade which i took fire shows and did various open days at fire stations and school fates etc etc
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DEANB:
hello DEAN ,and thank you for the Caddy pictures and clippings ,like the old Atkinsons some had sleeper cab extensions or pigeon lofts as they were known as .
The Seddon artic with sleeper cab was second hand from the Southampton area ,and some thought it to be a converted dust cart ! .Dont know who the former owner was .
NAW 500G famous as the first F88 in this country ,thank you DEAN a very enjoyable read ,Trevor
I thought you might like that Trevor. 
“converted dust cart” classic.
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I believe it was new to Jamesons, with the rare factory spec, not only of a sleeper (yes the dustcart pressings were similar!) but also an 8LXB Gardner. Ask Dennis about the merits of blending an expensive engine with a cheap lorry
Here is a photo from t’interweb, suitably copyright marked:
DEANB:
Album pics. Not taken by me.Mansel Davies Volvo F10. Odd colour maybe on a contract ■■
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Sayers Scania. They had a great looking colour scheme.
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David Garnham Roadtrain.
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Chancelot Mill Atkinson.
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Kenyon Seddon Atkinson 401.
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Smith for Service GUY.
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Tarmac Foden.
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Thory ERF
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ARC Routeman.
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Hey Dean ,i think the Mansel Davies Volvo ,was a former Commercial Show exhibit ,thanx MT
Hello Dean,Great shots from Paul and Mark…all excellent stuff mate.The Mansel Davies F10 in silver was a “Special” as in it had I believe leather interior and chrome wheel trims etc.B188 VDE was one of 4 lorries in their fleet that were in silver,B216 WDE a F12 6 wheel unit,C765 ADE a FL10 4 wheel unit and 13 MDE(I think maybe this was originaly WDE and reregisterd) which a pic is attached got this pack…its a bit like the Golden FH4s which have all the goodies and are seen on the road at present.I believe B188 survives today and is painted in Mansels fleet colours and the shot you put on was taken by me and was seen in the café at Whitland…sorry to put the anorak on!!
Cheers Bubbs
240 Gardner:
DEANB:
hello DEAN ,and thank you for the Caddy pictures and clippings ,like the old Atkinsons some had sleeper cab extensions or pigeon lofts as they were known as .
The Seddon artic with sleeper cab was second hand from the Southampton area ,and some thought it to be a converted dust cart ! .Dont know who the former owner was .
NAW 500G famous as the first F88 in this country ,thank you DEAN a very enjoyable read ,TrevorI thought you might like that Trevor.
I believe it was new to Jamesons, with the rare factory spec, not only of a sleeper (yes the dustcart pressings were similar!) but also an 8LXB Gardner. Ask Dennis about the merits of blending an expensive engine with a cheap lorry
Here is a photo from t’interweb, suitably copyright marked:
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Your spot on Chris as I could never see the reasoning for Seddons to fit the 8LXB de-rated to 200BHP in the 32/4 chassis. I believe the main reason was because they were using the DB 6:600 box which was patently useless behind anything more powerful than the 6LXB. I can painfully confirm this fact as we ran 3 220Cu Borderers with the DB box and they all suffered failures where as fitted with the Fuller RTO 610 box they performed faultlessly !
Cheers Dennis.
I believe the reason for the "half front bumpers " were in case of a frontal accident the bumper didn’t blow a front tyre/didn’t jam up at the wheel,or so I was told.jimmy
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Great photos but twice as sad because that’s also some of the America that I knew and remember,during my travels,in better days. 
marktaff:
Hi Dean,
The ERF Fire engine you posted here was a Swansea Fire engine…it was based at the old Swansea Fire station in Alexandra Road in the town centre…this engine also had a sister JTH 776P …Regular sight on the roads of Swansea in the mid to late 70s.Regards Mark
LFB had some too bleedin quick V8 powered beasties from memory.
ArcDaz:
DEANB:
Anyone driven a fire engine ■■?
Dean yes i have drove quite a few fire engines over years as i did own ten of them at one point al were ex London fire brigade which i took fire shows and did various open days at fire stations and school fates etc etc
Volvo’s.8
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Dennis.
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ERF’s.
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Click on pages twice to read.
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Only fire trucks. 
windrush:
“What’s the make chaps?” It’s a Commer.Pete.
Cheers Pete ! 
marktaff:
Hi Dean,
The ERF Fire engine you posted here was a Swansea Fire engine…it was based at the old Swansea Fire station in Alexandra Road in the town centre…this engine also had a sister JTH 776P …Regular sight on the roads of Swansea in the mid to late 70s.Regards Mark
How the hell did you know that Mark !
Punchy Dan:
I’d think the west brick B series would belong to frank Tucker as it looks likes the weight plate on the door by the mirror arm which is something he’s known for .
Yeah possibly Dan as Frank Tucker was also a ERF agent.
ArcDaz:
DEANB:
Anyone driven a fire engine ■■?
Dean yes i have drove quite a few fire engines over years as i did own ten of them at one point al were ex London fire brigade which i took fire shows and did various open days at fire stations and school fates etc etc
You kept that quiet Daz.
Heres a few more articles that may intrest you chap !
DEANB:
Album pics. Not taken by me.Mansel Davies Volvo F10. Odd colour maybe on a contract ■■
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Sayers Scania. They had a great looking colour scheme.
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David Garnham Roadtrain.
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Chancelot Mill Atkinson. Mansel Davies had 2in sliver they were special editions
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Kenyon Seddon Atkinson 401.
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Smith for Service GUY.
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Tarmac Foden.
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Thory ERF
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ARC Routeman.
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240 Gardner:
DEANB:
I believe it was new to Jamesons, with the rare factory spec, not only of a sleeper (yes the dustcart pressings were similar!) but also an 8LXB Gardner. Ask Dennis about the merits of blending an expensive engine with a cheap lorryHere is a photo from t’interweb, suitably copyright marked:
I reckon that truck had a hard life Chris by the time Caddies finished with it after Jameson’s had already used it on European work !
MANTRONIC:
Mansel Davies Volvo F10. Odd colour maybe on a contract ■■Hey Dean ,i think the Mansel Davies Volvo ,was a former Commercial Show exhibit ,thanx MT
bubbleman:
Hello Dean,Great shots from Paul and Mark…all excellent stuff mate.The Mansel Davies F10 in silver was a “Special” as in it had I believe leather interior and chrome wheel trims etc.B188 VDE was one of 4 lorries in their fleet that were in silver,B216 WDE a F12 6 wheel unit,C765 ADE a FL10 4 wheel unit and 13 MDE(I think maybe this was originaly WDE and reregisterd) which a pic is attached got this pack…its a bit like the Golden FH4s which have all the goodies and are seen on the road at present.I believe B188 survives today and is painted in Mansels fleet colours and the shot you put on was taken by me and was seen in the café at Whitland…sorry to put the anorak on!!
Cheers Bubbs
Thanks for the info and pics Bubbs good stuff. I seem to remember they called an F12 at one point the Prestige with lots of etras although i cant remember if that
was just on the Continent or here as well ! 
Bewick:
“240 Gardner”I believe it was new to Jamesons, with the rare factory spec, not only of a sleeper (yes the dustcart pressings were similar!) but also an 8LXB Gardner. Ask Dennis about the merits of blending an expensive engine with a cheap lorry
Your spot on Chris as I could never see the reasoning for Seddons to fit the 8LXB de-rated to 200BHP in the 32/4 chassis. I believe the main reason was because they were using the DB 6:600 box which was patently useless behind anything more powerful than the 6LXB. I can painfully confirm this fact as we ran 3 220Cu Borderers with the DB box and they all suffered failures where as fitted with the Fuller RTO 610 box they performed faultlessly !
Cheers Dennis.
Thanks for your comments Dennis, we will have to put some stuff on about Atkinsons soon.
ERF-NGC-European:
Here you go. Robert
Thanks for the pics/clippings Robert !
JIMBO47:
I believe the reason for the "half front bumpers " were in case of a frontal accident the bumper didn’t blow a front tyre/didn’t jam up at the wheel,or so I was told.jimmy
Thanks for the explanation Jimmy,never thought of that. A few manufacturers seem to build them like that for a while. Keep looking in as alot more American stuff to come chap !
Carryfast:
Great photos but twice as sad because that’s also some of the America that I knew and remember,during my travels,in better days.
More Amercian stuff to come “Carryfast”
Bewick:
Your spot on Chris as I could never see the reasoning for Seddons to fit the 8LXB de-rated to 200BHP in the 32/4 chassis. I believe the main reason was because they were using the DB 6:600 box which was patently useless behind anything more powerful than the 6LXB. I can painfully confirm this fact as we ran 3 220Cu Borderers with the DB box and they all suffered failures where as fitted with the Fuller RTO 610 box they performed faultlessly !
Cheers Dennis.
If I remember rightly, Dennis, they shoehorned it into a 9’6" chassis too! The Cadwallader example looks longer though, but it was a year or two after the original announcement of that model.
I think everyone pretty much said the same about that engine/gearbox combination. Bowker’s fleet engineer used to tell me about the bearing problems with them behind the 220 ■■■■■■■ (and, to a degree, the 6LXB too), but he spec’d David Brown gearboxes for the double-shifted motors because some of the night men weren’t smart enough to tell the difference between a splitter and a range-change, nor indeed between their own botty and elbow, and kept doing damage by going down a range when they thought they were going down half a gear.
His illustration of the intellect of some of them was the example of one known as Catweazle: one night, Geoff takes a call from the West Midlands Police, to say that they have stopped one of the northbound trunk men on the M6 because his lights aren’t working. Geoff jumps in his car and drives down at speed from his home near Chorley, finds the motor on the hard shoulder and reaches inside the cab to try the light switches so as to decide where to start his troubleshooting. He switches on the master switch for the lights (on the back panel of the cab, because its an older Mk.1) and all the lights come on.
Nothing whatsoever wrong with the wagon - Catweazle just didn’t know where the switch was, and simply kept driving into the ever darker night! Of course, motorways were not usually lit in that day and age either. Now, Dennis, would you trust Catweazle with a range-change??
Come to think of it, you’d probably met him on the A5 or the A34 when you were nobbut a Brady’s trailer lad, eh
DEANB:
Thanks for your comments Dennis, we will have to put some stuff on about Atkinsons soon.
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