PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

gingerfold · 3 August 2017 12:09

moomooland:
0Many thanks to you and Mark for posting this picture Dean.
Seddon Atkinson 400 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No BCW 600R Fleet No 45 ‘Undaunted’ was painted in an experimental livery which wasn’t applied to many of Riding’s vehicles.

Powered by a Gardner 8LXB engine it was registered new on the 1st of July 1977 at a cost of £16,442 plus vat and driven from new by Kenneth Moon who worked for Riding’s almost his entire life.

After it’s life at Riding’s BCW 600R was sold on to Tom Riding’s brother in law L J & M Ball on the 24th of February 1986 for £1,800 plus vat.

That purchase price is interesting and shows that with the rampant inflation of the 1970s the cost of a premium tractor unit had trebled in the 7 years from 1970 to 1977.

bonkeydollocks · 3 August 2017 12:28

DEANB:
One for “BonkeyDollocks” !

Tarmac marathon.

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Bloody hell!

This is no word of lie; I have never repeat NEVER seen a Marathon in the glorious colours of the seven Ts before!
That is just magnificent! The nearest you could say I’ve seen was a grainy shot of a Derbyshire Stone Marathon that was an ex demo that ran from Cawder quarry Matlock.

Many thanks Dean and Mark. You just keep on coming up with the goods!

deanb · 3 August 2017 12:30

One for “240 Gardner”

Reg no UTF460H

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moomooland · 3 August 2017 12:41

Atkinson Mk II 4x2 tractor unit Reg No UTF 460H Fleet No 71, was originally registered new to Riding’s on the 1st of December 1969, at a cost of £4,287.5p plus vat,
Driven regularly by the late Keith Gornall it was fitted with a long range 90 gallon fuel tank along with a 5.78:1 ratio axle which gave it more speed.

After being in service with Riding’s for eight years UTF 460H was sold to John Killingbeck of Blackburn in December 1977 for the sum of £2,500 plus vat at 8%.

240_gardner · 3 August 2017 12:51

DEANB:
One for “240 Gardner”

Reg no UTF460H

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Brilliant, thank you!!!

I don’t even remember this one being on the Killingbeck fleet

Thanks v much, Dean!

P.S. Nice square load - out of Whitbread at Magor, perhaps?

steelboyf10 · 3 August 2017 16:02

Hey Pete 359, is that one of those pesky south whalian steel hauliers running for home, would have got shot running with the well boards loose on my old firm… used to leave them in the yard so I only got coil non of that flat iron rubbish

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bonkeydollocks · 3 August 2017 16:41

DEANB:
One for “BonkeyDollocks” !

Tarmac marathon.

Here’s the DS Marathon I mentioned earlier. At the time the parent company was Tarmac. Pictured at Cawdor quarry in the late 70s.

pete_359 · 3 August 2017 16:50

steelboyf10:
Hey Pete 359, is that one of those pesky south whalian steel hauliers running for home, would have got shot running with the well boards loose on my old firm… used to leave them in the yard so I only got coil non of that flat iron rubbish

hi SBF10,
It’s funny you should say that m8.That looks like a J&M coiler too me?
regards andrew.

deanb · 3 August 2017 17:36

grumpy old man:
The Mercedes bulker with no name, a good guess would be Prosper de Mulder Doncaster (animal by products)

Thanks for the comment"grumpy old man"

moomooland:
0Many thanks to you and Mark for posting this picture Dean.
Seddon Atkinson 400 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No BCW 600R Fleet No 45 ‘Undaunted’ was painted in an experimental livery which wasn’t applied to many of Riding’s vehicles.

Powered by a Gardner 8LXB engine it was registered new on the 1st of July 1977 at a cost of £16,442 plus vat and driven from new by Kenneth Moon who worked for Riding’s almost his entire life.

After it’s life at Riding’s BCW 600R was sold on to Tom Riding’s brother in law L J & M Ball on the 24th of February 1986 for £1,800 plus vat.

Thanks for the information Paul ! Got a few more nice ones to come in the future !

boden:
The bulker behind the Merc looks to be one of PDM’s, if so it will be on offal or fat and bone possibly out of Hartshill near Nuneaton, I know they used to collect out of Treforest from there . I was yard lad at their Bury depot 1974/75 and have loaded these trailers and other types countless times. Lindley Haulage from Nuneaton usually came into us for backloading after running processed stuff known as greives up to PDM at Doncaster for further “refining”. I found Lindleys drivers were always decent blokes and were happy for me to move their F88’s around for loading while they were brewing up, I have’nt been near an 88 since. These wagons did mega miles and one appeared in a full page Volvo advert in CM at the time. The Merc is in the right colours for PDM but will almost certainly be operated by someone else as they made all artic drivers redundant around Oct 74 with the option to buy their existing Unit or a new one via PDM, and carry on doing the work although the driver at Bury the late Peter Cole, didn’t get the chance no doubt due to his face not fitting, that’s how it was there as I well know, anyway he got an immediate start at Reliance Tankers. He had come from Geoff. Reyners and made it clear he had no intention of going back on that roping and sheeting lark, but I digress. They also came in from Doncaster with these trailers and some newer types which featured in CM at the time. O/D’s from Doncaster I recall were Roy Moore who kept going with his bonneted Merc for a while before switching to Volvo and had a regular supply of “grown up” magazines for our yard foreman, and Frank Palmer and Cliff and Dave Gill. Dave “advised” me not to put as much on his second load one day as he was 37 ton on the weighbridge at Donny with the first! Which, as he was telling me was the reason why the 1924 Merc they started with had such a sweat on pulling up Windy Hill. Point taken. I believe PDM is now German owned and called SARIA.

Thanks “boden” for the information. I liked the bit about the “grown up magazines,” classic ! If you have any photos
of PDM’s or Lindleys motors please feel free to pop them on !

240 Gardner:

moomooland:
0Many thanks to you and Mark for posting this picture Dean.
Seddon Atkinson 400 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No BCW 600R Fleet No 45 ‘Undaunted’ was painted in an experimental livery which wasn’t applied to many of Riding’s vehicles.

Powered by a Gardner 8LXB engine it was registered new on the 1st of July 1977 at a cost of £16,442 plus vat and driven from new by Kenneth Moon who worked for Riding’s almost his entire life.

After it’s life at Riding’s BCW 600R was sold on to Tom Riding’s brother in law L J & M Ball on the 24th of February 1986 for £1,800 plus vat.

And later still, it joined the Killingbeck fleet!
John Killingbeck Seddon Atkinson 400 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No BCW 600R by Paul Anderson, on Flickr

Sounds like it had a hard life “240 Gardner” thanks for the pic !

gingerfold:

moomooland:
0Many thanks to you and Mark for posting this picture Dean.
Seddon Atkinson 400 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No BCW 600R Fleet No 45 ‘Undaunted’ was painted in an experimental livery which wasn’t applied to many of Riding’s vehicles.

Powered by a Gardner 8LXB engine it was registered new on the 1st of July 1977 at a cost of £16,442 plus vat and driven from new by Kenneth Moon who worked for Riding’s almost his entire life.

After it’s life at Riding’s BCW 600R was sold on to Tom Riding’s brother in law L J & M Ball on the 24th of February 1986 for £1,800 plus vat.

That purchase price is interesting and shows that with the rampant inflation of the 1970s the cost of a premium tractor unit had trebled in the 7 years from 1970 to 1977.

Thanks “gingerfold” for your comments ! So are you saying that the same unit was about £5,500 in 1970 ■■
If thats the case like you say thats a huge increase in 7 years !

BonkeyDollocks:

DEANB:
One for “BonkeyDollocks” !

Tarmac marathon.

0

Bloody hell!

This is no word of lie; I have never repeat NEVER seen a Marathon in the glorious colours of the seven Ts before!
That is just magnificent! The nearest you could say I’ve seen was a grainy shot of a Derbyshire Stone Marathon that was an ex demo that ran from Cawder quarry Matlock.

Many thanks Dean and Mark. You just keep on coming up with the goods!

Thought you might like that “BonkeyDollocks” ! Paul and Mark will be chuffed you are enjoying there pics !

moomooland:
10Atkinson Mk II 4x2 tractor unit Reg No UTF 460H Fleet No 71, was originally registered new to Riding’s on the 1st of December 1969, at a cost of £4,287.5p plus vat,
Driven regularly by the late Keith Gornall it was fitted with a long range 90 gallon fuel tank along with a 5.78:1 ratio axle which gave it more speed.

After being in service with Riding’s it was sold on to John Killingbeck of Blackburn

Cheers Paul, you have all the info on these Riding motors !! That confirms what “gingerfold” says in his
post about the trucks trebling in 7 years from £4-5,000 in 1969/70 to £16,000 in 1977 !

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
One for “240 Gardner”

Reg no UTF460H

0

Brilliant, thank you!!!

I don’t even remember this one being on the Killingbeck fleet

Thanks v much, Dean!

P.S. Nice square load - out of Whitbread at Magor, perhaps?

Cheers “240 Gardner” !

steelboyf10:
Hey Pete 359, is that one of those pesky south whalian steel hauliers running for home, would have got shot running with the well boards loose on my old firm… used to leave them in the yard so I only got coil non of that flat iron rubbish

Thanks “steelboyf10” for your comments and input !

BonkeyDollocks:

DEANB:
One for “BonkeyDollocks” !

Tarmac marathon.

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Here’s the DS Marathon I mentioned earlier. At the time the parent company was Tarmac. Pictured at Cawdor quarry in the late 70s.

Thanks for the pic “BonkeyDollocks” !

pete 359:

steelboyf10:
Hey Pete 359, is that one of those pesky south whalian steel hauliers running for home, would have got shot running with the well boards loose on my old firm… used to leave them in the yard so I only got coil non of that flat iron rubbish

hi SBF10,
It’s funny you should say that m8.That looks like a J&M coiler too me?
regards andrew.

Any more pics Andrew ■■?

deanb · 3 August 2017 18:02

One for Pete Smith.

Appleby’s Atkinson.

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gazsa401 · 3 August 2017 18:11

DEANB:

gazsa401:
This is an amazing site I’ve seen some photos of my old firm it’s a credit to Paul and DEANB

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thanks “gazsa401” for your comment ! Who was your old company ■■?

This was my 401 which I restored,It took me about 6 years to do
Unfortunately due to ill health I had to get rid of her last year

ergomatic_man · 3 August 2017 18:57

DEANB:
ERF ,8 wheeler

9

Rare G88 non sleeper ! Effluent disposal.
effluent disposal then leigh onyx and so on they been on that sight in stubbers green for years pumping it into the mine shafts,but it all comes out now in the form of filter cake and tipped on landfill you dont want to be behind one of those bulk tippers on a warm day .
8

Albion Clydesdale of Bedford’s transport.

7

Brand new ERF of H.Tinker.

6

David Graves Mercedes.

5

Atkinson Borderer of Williams bros ,think they were from Wales ?

4

Tidy BRS Seddon.

3

R.A.Benham Mercedes

2

Reece’s Volvo F86 with lift up axle,great motors !

1

H.B.Haulage Scania Vabis.

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hrs · 4 August 2017 06:55

DEANB:

HRS:

Buzzer:
The blue F88 which I think was a 230 engine belonged to Ian Lawson, not sure if he bought that new but he replaced it with an F12 1980 vintage which Ian is still driving today and I saw him this week on the M27 with a 20ft container. Last time I spoke to him about two years ago he was tipping in a cold store next door to our yard and I asked how much he would sell it for and he said he had offers exceeding £25.000 any time he wanted to part with it, not completely original as it has an updated cab but never the less still working and looking the part even today. Think Ian is well into his 70’s now so must be one off the oldest OD’s still working and I think the finance is paid of on the truck, cheers Buzzer.

Hi Buzzer,
Remember me to Ian when you speek to him next, tell him I have spent the commission.
There is an interesting story about his colour scheme.
Cheers, Harvey

Go on then Harvey whats the story ■■?

OK !!!
The story.
Near Fareham, Hampshire there was an old derilict Mansion called “Cams Hall”,once used by Lord Nelson to accommodate his misstress, Emma Hamilton.
In the old coach yard oporated a Caravan park home and haulage business called, Cams Hall Caravans.
They wanted there new F10 to be colourfull and not being good at this I sort help from a young lady in our Accounts department, she was good and came up with a good design.
They loved it. Ian came in to see his new F12 and noticed the Cams Hall F10 in the work shop, fresh from the paint shop and loved it to, Problem.
So to comprimise we giggled the colours about, remember back then trucks came in mostly white and a primer chassis and problem solved.
His truck has changed a little with a new cab ect but Ian is one of the gentlemen of our industry, cheers Harvey

buzzer · 4 August 2017 07:14

HRS:

DEANB:

HRS:

Buzzer:
The blue F88 which I think was a 230 engine belonged to Ian Lawson, not sure if he bought that new but he replaced it with an F12 1980 vintage which Ian is still driving today and I saw him this week on the M27 with a 20ft container. Last time I spoke to him about two years ago he was tipping in a cold store next door to our yard and I asked how much he would sell it for and he said he had offers exceeding £25.000 any time he wanted to part with it, not completely original as it has an updated cab but never the less still working and looking the part even today. Think Ian is well into his 70’s now so must be one off the oldest OD’s still working and I think the finance is paid of on the truck, cheers Buzzer.

Hi Buzzer,
Remember me to Ian when you speek to him next, tell him I have spent the commission.
There is an interesting story about his colour scheme.
Cheers, Harvey

Go on then Harvey whats the story ■■?

OK !!!
The story.
Near Fareham, Hampshire there was an old derilict Mansion called “Cams Hall”,once used by Lord Nelson to accommodate his misstress, Emma Hamilton.
In the old coach yard oporated a Caravan park home and haulage business called, Cams Hall Caravans.
They wanted there new F10 to be colourfull and not being good at this I sort help from a young lady in our Accounts department, she was good and came up with a good design.
They loved it. Ian came in to see his new F12 and noticed the Cams Hall F10 in the work shop, fresh from the paint shop and loved it to, Problem.
So to comprimise we giggled the colours about, remember back then trucks came in mostly white and a primer chassis and problem solved.
His truck has changed a little with a new cab ect but Ian is one of the gentlemen of our industry, cheers Harvey

Harvey reckon Ian would have a tad few more rings than even you if we cut him in half so you got a few years left at the wheel to catch him, Buzzer.

dispatcher · 4 August 2017 08:25

Hi JD

Ian was on our estate earlier in the week, I spoke to him some months ago on a previous visit I’m sure he said over 4mill on the clock?

buzzer · 4 August 2017 10:02

DISPATCHER:
Hi JD

Ian was on our estate earlier in the week, I spoke to him some months ago on a previous visit I’m sure he said over 4mill on the clock?

Chris that is amazing mileage and for sure most if not all driven by Ian, He told me he did a trip to Sweden and tipped on a Friday and was then apprehended by a group of Volvo enthusiast’s who had some sort of rally going on and could not believe it was still earning its corn, needless to say he had to stay over the weekend being treated like loyalty at there pleasure, you could not make that up eh, cheers Buzzer (JD)

deanb · 4 August 2017 14:44

gazsa401:

DEANB:

gazsa401:
This is an amazing site I’ve seen some photos of my old firm it’s a credit to Paul and DEANB

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thanks “gazsa401” for your comment ! Who was your old company ■■?

This was my 401 which I restored,It took me about 6 years to do
Unfortunately due to ill health I had to get rid of her last year

Cheers for the pic “gazsa401” will have a look and if i have one of that company will pop it on for you. However if
there is not one in this batch,one might turn up later on in another batch of pics !

ergomatic man:

DEANB:
ERF ,8 wheeler

9

Rare G88 non sleeper ! Effluent disposal.
effluent disposal then leigh onyx and so on they been on that sight in stubbers green for years pumping it into the mine shafts,but it all comes out now in the form of filter cake and tipped on landfill you dont want to be behind one of those bulk tippers on a warm day .
8

Thanks for your comments “ergomatic man” rare old beast that G88 non sleeper !

HRS:

Buzzer:
The blue F88 which I think was a 230 engine belonged to Ian Lawson, not sure if he bought that new but he replaced it with an F12 1980 vintage which Ian is still driving today and I saw him this week on the M27 with a 20ft container. Last time I spoke to him about two years ago he was tipping in a cold store next door to our yard and I asked how much he would sell it for and he said he had offers exceeding £25.000 any time he wanted to part with it, not completely original as it has an updated cab but never the less still working and looking the part even today. Think Ian is well into his 70’s now so must be one off the oldest OD’s still working and I think the finance is paid of on the truck, cheers Buzzer.

Hi Buzzer,
Remember me to Ian when you speek to him next, tell him I have spent the commission.
There is an interesting story about his colour scheme.
Cheers, Harvey

Go on then Harvey whats the story ■■?

OK !!!
The story.
Near Fareham, Hampshire there was an old derilict Mansion called “Cams Hall”,once used by Lord Nelson to accommodate his misstress, Emma Hamilton.
In the old coach yard oporated a Caravan park home and haulage business called, Cams Hall Caravans.
They wanted there new F10 to be colourfull and not being good at this I sort help from a young lady in our Accounts department, she was good and came up with a good design.
They loved it. Ian came in to see his new F12 and noticed the Cams Hall F10 in the work shop, fresh from the paint shop and loved it to, Problem.
So to comprimise we giggled the colours about, remember back then trucks came in mostly white and a primer chassis and problem solved.
His truck has changed a little with a new cab ect but Ian is one of the gentlemen of our industry, cheers Harvey
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Very good Harvey ! However the bit that intrests me is not the colour scheme but more the young lady from accounts !! I bet you got
help from her !

DISPATCHER:
Hi JD

Ian was on our estate earlier in the week, I spoke to him some months ago on a previous visit I’m sure he said over 4mill on the clock?

Quality motor “DISPATCHER” !

Buzzer:

DISPATCHER:
Hi JD

Ian was on our estate earlier in the week, I spoke to him some months ago on a previous visit I’m sure he said over 4mill on the clock?

Chris that is amazing mileage and for sure most if not all driven by Ian, He told me he did a trip to Sweden and tipped on a Friday and was then apprehended by a group of Volvo enthusiast’s who had some sort of rally going on and could not believe it was still earning its corn, needless to say he had to stay over the weekend being treated like loyalty at there pleasure, you could not make that up eh, cheers Buzzer (JD)

Looking at that motor Buzzer, i bet that goes straight through its anuual test !