PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Identifying locations is just as interesting. Some have been nailed so, with their help…
Ross-On-Wye bypass
Severn Bridge, Welsh end.
A48 Chepstow
Southampton Docks area
Poole Docks, Hamworthy
A3049 Poole Fleets Corner, before the flyover.
A3049, further up the hill towards Rossmore, now dualled.

Not sure,
A bendy rural A road
A dual c/way under a new concrete bridge, so new that none of the many shots show any traffic on it. Not opened yet?

Any more?

240 Gardner:

DEANB:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Todays pics.

Rossiter & James Borderer loaded with scrap.

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That’s a Defender :wink:

I was just testing you “240 Gardner” to make sure you were paying attention, honestly ! :unamused: :unamused: :wink:

Whats the difference between the Borderer and the Defender and “Punchy Dan” was asking about this ATKI ?

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Ah a nice easy one!

1964-1970: all tractors ‘Silver Knight’, all rigid tippers & tankers ‘Gold Knight’ and all rigid general haulage chassis ‘Black Knight’. This continued after the introduction of the Mk.2 cab first shown at Kelvin Hall in late 1967.

At Earls Court on October 1970, a new range was announced, using the same Mk.2 cab but with some new chassis frames underneath, together with new fuel tanks and mirrors. The new range was:

Borderer 4x2 tractor to 34T
Leader 6x2 rear steer tractor to 38T
Venturer 6x4 tractor to 45T (later up to 75T)
Searcher 6x4 rigid to 22T (later 24T)
Defender 8x4 rigid to 26T (later to 30T)

The names were coined by the late Frank Whalley, who was Atkinson’s Publicity & Promotions Manager. He also came up with ‘Raider’ for the 4x2 rigid, but it was never used in period, and not even referred to in period literature, although people now use it to describe such motors.

It was also at the 1970 Earls Court show that the knight’s head badge was ditched, partly because the ‘Knight’ range had been superseded, but also because Atkinson’s MD, Peter Yates, told him that they were starting to look like fairground lorries, with the A, the knight’s head, the engine badge and now the new model name badges

Hi 240,
Was there a 16 ton rigid called a “Raider” seem to remember Bostocks running one?

ERF-NGC-European:

DEANB:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Todays pics.

Rossiter & James Borderer loaded with scrap.

That’s a Defender :wink:

I was just testing you “240 Gardner” to make sure you were paying attention, honestly ! :unamused: :unamused: :wink:

Whats the difference between the Borderer and the Defender and “Punchy Dan” was asking about this ATKI ?

Here you go, Dean! Robert

Cheers Robert, thats a handy page ! :wink:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Todays pics.

Rossiter & James Borderer loaded with scrap.

That’s a Defender :wink:

I was just testing you “240 Gardner” to make sure you were paying attention, honestly ! :unamused: :unamused: :wink:

Whats the difference between the Borderer and the Defender and “Punchy Dan” was asking about this ATKI ?

Ah a nice easy one!

1964-1970: all tractors ‘Silver Knight’, all rigid tippers & tankers ‘Gold Knight’ and all rigid general haulage chassis ‘Black Knight’. This continued after the introduction of the Mk.2 cab first shown at Kelvin Hall in late 1967.

At Earls Court on October 1970, a new range was announced, using the same Mk.2 cab but with some new chassis frames underneath, together with new fuel tanks and mirrors. The new range was:

Borderer 4x2 tractor to 34T
Leader 6x2 rear steer tractor to 38T
Venturer 6x4 tractor to 45T (later up to 75T)
Searcher 6x4 rigid to 22T (later 24T)
Defender 8x4 rigid to 26T (later to 30T)

The names were coined by the late Frank Whalley, who was Atkinson’s Publicity & Promotions Manager. He also came up with ‘Raider’ for the 4x2 rigid, but it was never used in period, and not even referred to in period literature, although people now use it to describe such motors.

It was also at the 1970 Earls Court show that the knight’s head badge was ditched, partly because the ‘Knight’ range had been superseded, but also because Atkinson’s MD, Peter Yates, told him that they were starting to look like fairground lorries, with the A, the knight’s head, the engine badge and now the new model name badges

Thanks “240 Gardner” i knew you would know them all ! Thanks for the detailed reply ! :smiley: :smiley: :wink:

fryingpan:
Identifying locations is just as interesting. Some have been nailed so, with their help…
Ross-On-Wye bypass
Severn Bridge, Welsh end.
A48 Chepstow
Southampton Docks area
Poole Docks, Hamworthy
A3049 Poole Fleets Corner, before the flyover.
A3049, further up the hill towards Rossmore, now dualled.

Not sure,
A bendy rural A road
A dual c/way under a new concrete bridge, so new that none of the many shots show any traffic on it. Not opened yet?

Any more?

“fryingpan” I must admit i never recognised the A3049 going towards Rossmore as i can only ever
remember it being dual carrigeway. I will ask Paul about the different places. :wink:

Today pics.

BP Scammell

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New Coles crane

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Co-op ERF

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Dont know whos the marathon is ■■

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Rowe Group F88

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Thinks its a AEC ■■

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Machins marathon looks fairly new.

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Bedford TM

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Think it says John Evans transport services ■■

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Lyons Maid Guy

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Hoveringham Foden

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John Bevan Bedford TM

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DAF draw-bar cant make the name out on it,but its pretty rare so someone may know it ■■

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Volvo F86

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Think its Wreckin roadways ? Foden

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Borderer ICI

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Guy tanker

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M.S.G. Wharfage Guy

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Hoveringham Leyland

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Tilcon Foden

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Does the Sunset Hotel ring any bells ? Drivers digs.

Cabaret,thats a new name for strippers ! :unamused: :laughing:

Click on page twice to read.

Hi DEAN ,just been catching up with you on this thread …and some superb stuff …William Morgan from the Swansea valley …That Spanish Dodge says my father went like a rocket up the Crai …its driver lived nearHay on Wye …Morgans did mostly Llanelli radiators up and down the M50 to the Midlands .
John Evans Newport …and one of his early 2600 Dafs … G D J Price , Magirus with container also from Newport …did a lot of Bell work ,and Whitbread Magor …thanks …Geraint .

DEANB:
Does the Sunset Hotel ring any bells ? Drivers digs.

Cabaret,thats a new name for strippers ! :unamused: :laughing:

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Click on page twice to read.

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Yes stayed there often when I was at Brady’s on the Octopus and trailer in the mid/late 60’s which I note is 10 years earlier than the date of the article which also refers to the previous 5 years ! So I wonder if it had changed hands, I bet our TN member Trev H RIP could have enlightened us as he lived opposite the Sunset. And IIRC it was called The Sunset Motel originally but the passage of time can be confusing :blush: But it was at the time I am talking about a decent place to stay, not that we stopped in any rough digs by the way :wink: That’s one thing Eric wouldn’t do and I continued in that vein when I became an O/D but with one exception “Brays in Aldgate” but for a good reason to do with the Job! Cheers Bewick.

DeanB
Daf wagon and drag looks as if its one of T James from Bedlington Northumberland they had a brown and white colour scheme had a fair size outfit, mainly tippers. I think they are still on the go.

jshepguis:
DeanB
Daf wagon and drag looks as if its one of T James from Bedlington Northumberland they had a brown and white colour scheme had a fair size outfit, mainly tippers. I think they are still on the go.

Yes they are still on the go "jshepguis, Alan James the son runs it, That wagon & drag was the only one that they ever ran, It was on a coal job IIRC, Delivering to coal merchants in West Scotland, I used to get a lot of work from them when I had my own motors,Good rates, & quick payers, They allways looked after owner drivers in the correct way, Happy days, Regards Larry.

What a cracking shot this is Dean! Make sure to thank Paul for me mate :wink:

And it does look like a Wrekin Roadways wagon indeed.

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What a cracking site this is credit to dean for the pics he is putting on full credit to you cheers John

Joseph Foulkes, Wednesfield, worked out of the Seamless Tube in Wednesfield, later went to all Mercedes fleet when he had the dealership for Merc, Neachells Hall Garage, another one of Foulkies Scania’s and one of their Atki’s, they are no longer trading, Cheer’s Pete

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pete smith:

240 Gardner:
At Earls Court on October 1970, a new range was announced, using the same Mk.2 cab but with some new chassis frames underneath, together with new fuel tanks and mirrors. The new range was:

Borderer 4x2 tractor to 34T
Leader 6x2 rear steer tractor to 38T
Venturer 6x4 tractor to 45T (later up to 75T)
Searcher 6x4 rigid to 22T (later 24T)
Defender 8x4 rigid to 26T (later to 30T)

The names were coined by the late Frank Whalley, who was Atkinson’s Publicity & Promotions Manager. He also came up with ‘Raider’ for the 4x2 rigid, but it was never used in period, and not even referred to in period literature, although people now use it to describe such motors.

It was also at the 1970 Earls Court show that the knight’s head badge was ditched, partly because the ‘Knight’ range had been superseded, but also because Atkinson’s MD, Peter Yates, told him that they were starting to look like fairground lorries, with the A, the knight’s head, the engine badge and now the new model name badges

Hi 240,
Was there a 16 ton rigid called a “Raider” seem to remember Bostocks running one?

Hello Pete, yes “240Gardner” did mention the raider ! Heres one. :wink:

kenfig bill:
Hi DEAN ,just been catching up with you on this thread …and some superb stuff …William Morgan from the Swansea valley …That Spanish Dodge says my father went like a rocket up the Crai …its driver lived nearHay on Wye …Morgans did mostly Llanelli radiators up and down the M50 to the Midlands .
John Evans Newport …and one of his early 2600 Dafs … G D J Price , Magirus with container also from Newport …did a lot of Bell work ,and Whitbread Magor …thanks …Geraint .

Thanks Geraint for your input and comments ! :wink: :laughing:

I may be wrong but i think you were asking about Entress Volvo F86’s ■■? :unamused:

Bewick:
Does the Sunset Hotel ring any bells ? Drivers digs.

Cabaret,thats a new name for strippers ! :unamused: :laughing:

sunset hotel.

Click on page twice to read.

Yes stayed there often when I was at Brady’s on the Octopus and trailer in the mid/late 60’s which I note is 10 years earlier than the date of the article which also refers to the previous 5 years ! So I wonder if it had changed hands, I bet our TN member Trev H RIP could have enlightened us as he lived opposite the Sunset. And IIRC it was called The Sunset Motel originally but the passage of time can be confusing :blush: But it was at the time I am talking about a decent place to stay, not that we stopped in any rough digs by the way :wink: That’s one thing Eric wouldn’t do and I continued in that vein when I became an O/D but with one exception “Brays in Aldgate” but for a good reason to do with the Job! Cheers Bewick.

I bet you did Dennis with those strippers !!! :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :smiley:

jshepguis:
DeanB
Daf wagon and drag looks as if its one of T James from Bedlington Northumberland they had a brown and white colour scheme had a fair size outfit, mainly tippers. I think they are still on the go.

Nice one “jshepguis” i thought someone might recognise it ,as would have been a rare outfit ! :wink:

Lawrence Dunbar:

jshepguis:
DeanB
Daf wagon and drag looks as if its one of T James from Bedlington Northumberland they had a brown and white colour scheme had a fair size outfit, mainly tippers. I think they are still on the go.

Yes they are still on the go "jshepguis, Alan James the son runs it, That wagon & drag was the only one that they ever ran, It was on a coal job IIRC, Delivering to coal merchants in West Scotland, I used to get a lot of work from them when I had my own motors,Good rates, & quick payers, They allways looked after owner drivers in the correct way, Happy days, Regards Larry.

Thanks Lawrence for also confirming the company. I bet it was a bugger to reverse ! :laughing:

pv83:
What a cracking shot this is Dean! Make sure to thank Paul for me mate :wink:

And it does look like a Wrekin Roadways wagon indeed.

Thanks Patrick,i thought you might like that ! Paul will read your comments ! There are some nice
heavy hauliers to come ! :wink: Heres one of them ! :laughing:

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smallcoal:
What a cracking site this is credit to dean for the pics he is putting on full credit to you cheers John

Thanks John,Paul will be glad you like it ! :smiley:

pete smith:
Joseph Foulkes, Wednesfield, worked out of the Seamless Tube in Wednesfield, later went to all Mercedes fleet when he had the dealership for Merc, Neachells Hall Garage, another one of Foulkies Scania’s and one of their Atki’s, they are no longer trading, Cheer’s Pete

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Thanks for the info and good pics Pete ! :wink: :smiley:

Todays pics

Ewins & Sons early 88

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Larkin Daf,with bedford van behind.

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Guy Big J ,wheres the rest of the engine !!! :frowning:

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Howard Tenens Guy Big J

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Tidy Seddon looks like B & G Jebson ■■

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BRS Daf

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Burtons Atkinson.

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ERF ,anyone know who ■■

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Alcan Scania

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New Maggie chassis.

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The Burtons Biscuits Atki could have been one of John Marsh’s who I believe was a main contractor to Burtons. Chris Gardener may have more info on this shot ! Cheers Dennis

MR, Bewick Do you have any photos of the J/J Makin fleet ? Cheers Barry WADDY

Bewick:
The Burtons Biscuits Atki could have been one of John Marsh’s who I believe was a main contractor to Burtons. Chris Gardener may have more info on this shot ! Cheers Dennis

Yes you beat me to it Dennis, John Marsh, aka Blackpool Van Transport. He ran Atkis on the Burtons contract.

barrywaddy:
MR, Bewick Do you have any photos of the J/J Makin fleet ? Cheers Barry WADDY

Hiya Baz, hope you are keeping well ! This a shot of one of the two J & J Makin 8LXB’s in the yard at Milnthorpe which I took from 60ft up in the air stood in the crane man cage ! I think there is a shot elsewhere on another site of a J & J six wheeler AEC Marshal probably late 60’s early 70’s. And I have some shots of the Makin fleet after I changed the colour scheme to a lighter blue with the deep white band around the cab. All the best Mr. Bewick.

Bewick:
The Burtons Biscuits Atki could have been one of John Marsh’s who I believe was a main contractor to Burtons. Chris Gardener may have more info on this shot ! Cheers Dennis

Thanks for your input Dennis ! :wink:

barrywaddy:
MR, Bewick Do you have any photos of the J/J Makin fleet ? Cheers Barry WADDY

gingerfold:

Bewick:
The Burtons Biscuits Atki could have been one of John Marsh’s who I believe was a main contractor to Burtons. Chris Gardener may have more info on this shot ! Cheers Dennis

Yes you beat me to it Dennis, John Marsh, aka Blackpool Van Transport. He ran Atkis on the Burtons contract.

Thanks for your input “gingerfold” :wink:

Bewick:

barrywaddy:
MR, Bewick Do you have any photos of the J/J Makin fleet ? Cheers Barry WADDY

BF0025.JPG Hiya Baz, hope you are keeping well ! This a shot of one of the two J & J Makin 8LXB’s in the yard at Milnthorpe which I took from 60ft up in the air stood in the crane man cage ! I think there is a shot elsewhere on another site of a J & J six wheeler AEC Marshal probably late 60’s early 70’s. And I have some shots of the Makin fleet after I changed the colour scheme to a lighter blue with the deep white band around the cab. All the best Mr. Bewick.

:sunglasses:

H.H.Williams Scania,been a few of theres on here !

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Tidy plain DAF

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Volvo F86 draw-bar

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Girling Foden

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Leyland

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Harold Wood ERF Tanker.

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Shorts Maggie.

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Volvo F88 of Williams Bros, surprised he can see anyting with all those stickers ! :wink:

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O.R.T. Seddon Atkinson with DAF behind.

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Sankey sugar, Foden.

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