This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!
Many thanks to Dean, Paul and anyone else contributing to this fresh pot of information and trivia 
Hiya Dean do you have any photos of E & J Meeks of Kirkby in Ashfield , black lorries ,Erf ,Volvo or Daf tippers carrying coal or coke ? Cheers Dan
^^^ is the merc towing the leyland ?
newmercman:
michel:
The Berliet is a TR 280 because the TR 260 had âtrilexâ front wheels. We could see that the Berliet badge is on the right side so it was the first version of this model.Haha, I went back and put the TR260 bit in just before I posted, in case I was wrong, should have just left it as it was! Thanks for that Michel, now I know about the Trilex wheels, I wonât make that mistake again.
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ânewmercmanâ You learn something everyday on here ! Bit like the stripes you mentioned yesterday ! 
Buzzer:
slatey:
both of the act scanias in the pictures belonged to brain haulage and run out of the Southampton depot on contract the day cab bgk902h (how sad is that)had a nasty accident on the a36 early one morning and was written off. the sleeper opu636p was one off many on that contract hope that helpsLes how the devil are you, trust you are enjoying a bit of retirement eh and this new thread takes us all back does it not, moved on now with the new machines as you need to be a computer buff as well as good on the spanners but I think we had the best days and laughs. Longo sat out side your work shop having just come of the ferry sitting in a deck chair with a glass of chilled white wine and simosaâs he bought early AM from the Indian shop round the corner to greet you when you arrived at 7 oclock, oh and not forgetting the cardboard flap window he fitted in Itally after someone smashed it when they broke in to the 111, Mary Hopkinâs moments there cheers JD.
Thanks for your input Buzzer 
thelongdrag:
Self lubricating tailgate with small central aperture (when new)the joys of a tipper driver,where are those blood pressure tablets
Thanks for your comment âthelongdragâ
cav551:
The Leyland Retriever also had the non reactive bogie linkage located inside the chassis rails. The front brakes also used a large C spring rather than individual brake shoe return coil springs. IIRC the front shoes had camshaft rollers. I never had occasion to remove the rear drums on a Retriever so do not know if they used cam rollers or the Leyland/Albion sliding pads with the wide cam. The O 600 engine was derated slightly in order not to exceed the torque limits of the AEC D 197 gearbox.Edit: correct error.
Cheers âcav551â Thanks for the comprehensive answer,very impressive. But you have totally lost
me !! 
GCR2ERF:
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!Many thanks to Dean, Paul and anyone else contributing to this fresh pot of information and trivia
Thanks âGC2ERFâ i thougt you would like this !
Now Bussing trucks must have been rare in the UK.
Check the reg out on Pauls photo and the advert !
Spillers.
We have had a few of Harold Woodâs tankers and heres another !
Tilcon Foden
Punchy Dan:
Hiya Dean do you have any photos of E & J Meeks of Kirkby in Ashfield , black lorries ,Erf ,Volvo or Daf tippers carrying coal or coke ? Cheers Dan
I will have a look Dan ! But i only have the first batch of photos ,Paul is working on the second
batch at the moment,so may take a while !
I am not sure about the Merc and Leyland. I wondered if they were parked in a layby but you
could be right â â
Stanfield:
One here Dan.(Not my photo by the way)
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Thanks for the pic Stanfield !
MAN
B J Waters Guy,someone i seem to remember mentioned these before. Rare out-fit.
Leyland
Howards transport ERF
Hoveringham AEC
Vitbe ERF
Foden
Mercedes looks rough and damaged.
L.J.Bennett from Gloucester if its the ones i am thinking of they were yellow !
BRS Scania
The waters Guy was driven by Tommy Kirk who lives just down the road from me , heâs retired now ,my uncle remembers seeing it run off the road on the m50 going towards Ross it was inches from going in the river .
Thanks for the transporters Dean remember reading somewhere that Progressive Group initial order with AEC ergos was for 72 units, Mercury and Mandator.
Oily
Stanfield:
One here Dan.(Not my photo by the way)
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Cheers John ,will you add it to the photo forum thanks. Dan
Nice pic.,of Waters Guy. And is that ERF one of Howardâs from Kings Cliffe. Thanks Dean and Paul. Mike. 
The Merc is on trade plates, it looks as if he is towing the Bison on a short bar. I donât think either of them had been on the road for a while!
Paul
Cracking thread DEANB,some brill pics,brings back a lot of memorys from my early days in transport,
Chris,
Top class pics Dean B
All of my era, so many different makes of lorries, firms liveries & so many smaller firms.
No plain white unit & trailer logistic mallarkey either.
Brilliant
DEANB:
thelongdrag:
That bullnose Merc.is one of Willie Harrisonâs from Canklow-Rotherham
And some jerk has nicked the gun sight of the grill.
I missed this when l first saw it,but spotted it when l was lurking last night1
Borrowed this off his thread.
0Thanks for the pic Mike and confirming the haulier !
rward:
Paul John you mentioned triang toys wat a mad mad place to work regards rowlyYou didnt work there by any chance did you Rowly !!!
A few tippers about today !
Not sure who this company was but we have had a few pics of there Scammells â â
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Cant make the name out on the Foden
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F86
Hi all,
The little F86 tag axle 6x2 reminded me of of a issue some may find interesting.
Early 70âs overhang of a body could not exceed 30% of the trucks wheel base. Wheelbase âwasâ from centre line of the rear axle to centre line of the steer axle.
No problem, untill you lifted the tag axle (as in the picture) then you had, acording to the minestry, an illegal overhang.
So, the minestry said they would prosecute, court case set on some indevidual, Volvo uk took up the challenge.
Minestry said once the axle is off the ground it ceases to be an axle, (there case).
The letter of the law clearly stated measurements are from centre line of the rearmost axle to centre line of steer axle.
Now, you all remember the âclassesâ of HGV 1 2 & 3 so Volvo uk asked if a group 3 driver could drive a 6x2 (24 tonner) when the tag axle was up. (there case).
Result, wheelbase changed on multi axle trucks from ( WB ) wheel base, to (T W B) Theoretical wheel base.
If my fading memory still works that gave us centre line of Bogie + 8 inches.
The old memory brain cells kicked in when i saw the old F86 in this picture.
Cheers Paul, Dean, fantastic thread. Harvey7
Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson bulker
6
ARC Crusader
5
ERF
4
Popular motor the 86
3
Scania,with the bucket on front,which was common back in the 70s.
2
One of Hoveringhamâs finest !
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MAN loaded with timber, not clear but i hope there is more than 1 â â â â â â â â that top pack of wood !
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Punchy Dan:
The waters Guy was driven by Tommy Kirk who lives just down the road from me , heâs retired now ,my uncle remembers seeing it run off the road on the m50 going towards Ross it was inches from going in the river .
Heres another shot of it Punchy Dan !
oiltreader:
Thanks for the transporters Dean
Oily
Thought you would like them Oily !
thelongdrag:
Nice pic.,of Waters Guy. And is that ERF one of Howardâs from Kings Cliffe. Thanks Dean and Paul. Mike.
Thanks âthelongdragâ glad you are enjoying the thread heres another one of Howards !
Punchy Dan:
^^^ is the merc towing the leyland ?
Have asked Paul if he can remember if it was towing â â
Paul John:
The Merc is on trade plates, it looks as if he is towing the Bison on a short bar. I donât think either of them had been on the road for a while!Paul
Well spotted Paul ,i never noticed the trade plates !
Chris62:
Cracking thread DEANB,some brill pics,brings back a lot of memorys from my early days in transport,Chris,
Thanks Chris,glad you are enjoying it.
gunnerheskey:
Top class pics Dean B
All of my era, so many different makes of lorries, firms liveries & so many smaller firms.
No plain white unit & trailer logistic mallarkey either.Brilliant
Agree âgunnerheskeyâ todays trucls are boring,not many sprayed with there own liveries like these !
Hi all,
The little F86 tag axle 6x2 reminded me of of a issue some may find interesting.
Early 70âs overhang of a body could not exceed 30% of the trucks wheel base. Wheelbase âwasâ from centre line of the rear axle to centre line of the steer axle.
No problem, untill you lifted the tag axle (as in the picture) then you had, acording to the minestry, an illegal overhang.
So, the minestry said they would prosecute, court case set on some indevidual, Volvo uk took up the challenge.
Minestry said once the axle is off the ground it ceases to be an axle, (there case).
The letter of the law clearly stated measurements are from centre line of the rearmost axle to centre line of steer axle.
Now, you all remember the âclassesâ of HGV 1 2 & 3 so Volvo uk asked if a group 3 driver could drive a 6x2 (24 tonner) when the tag axle was up. (there case).
Result, wheelbase changed on multi axle trucks from ( WB ) wheel base, to (T W B) Theoretical wheel base.
If my fading memory still works that gave us centre line of Bogie + 8 inches.
The old memory brain cells kicked in when i saw the old F86 in this picture.
Cheers Paul, Dean, fantastic thread. Harvey
Cheers for your input again Harvey, intresting story about the over hang ! They were very
popular in the 6 wheeler set up with the lifting rear axle. Brilliant motors.
Morning chaps,hows the blood pressure !
Hopefully its someones birthday today ? If not,never mind i just liked the pic !
Lots of ERFâs today Robert !
Dennis you will like this one ! 10 out of 10 for sheeting â â ?
Is this Goulding & Sons live stock ERF draw-bar the same company as the ERF above â â ?
Swains of Stretton ERF
Santa Fe, i understand they have now bought Ralph Davies out.End of an era or what â â ?
Think it says Readcot transport on headboard â â
ERF tipper ?
DAF
Rossiter & James ERF
W.R. Dawson, tidy Seddon Atkinson.
John Eckley DAF
Think it says Anderson on the door â â
Hoveringham AEC
Strathclyde Crusader.
British Steel Crusader.
Murray Smith from Grangemouth Seddon Atkinson.
Hansons Seddon Atkinson.
Tilcon Foden
John Golding DAF
DEANB:
Punchy Dan:
The waters Guy was driven by Tommy Kirk who lives just down the road from me , heâs retired now ,my uncle remembers seeing it run off the road on the m50 going towards Ross it was inches from going in the river .Heres another shot of it Punchy Dan !
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I donât remember the Guy at all? Our vintage club secretary drove a four wheeled Big J for Waters but that ran solo and had a Leyland engine. His health was suffering through years of being away all week in digs and living on junk food so Waters gave him the Guy new so that he could have a âsteadyâ day and be home each night. His work for five days a week with it was run empty to South Elmsall to load at 7am for Newcastle upon Tyne, then back load from (I think) the Jarrow area to Gloworm at Milford (near Belper) where he had to tip before 3pm or the gates were locked. On Saturdays he usually ran empty to Bolsover and then loaded down to Leamington or Warwick. Doesnât seem that steady to me? 
He now drives their ERF four wheeler (ex Knights Brothers of Rowsley) for shows!
Pete.