PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[deanb]

kevmac47:

DEANB:

kevmac47:

jshepguis:
Mercedes Benz of Carlisle Brothers from Middlesbrough Cleveland a company i had completely forgotten about always smart red liveried vehicles IIRC.
And the side shot of the Guy Big J alas doesn’t look as if there are a couple of pots sticking out the back, but could this treasure trove of pictures come up with one ,that would please Dennis!

Gil Carlisle is a great friend of mine, I was talking to him just last Friday( his 70th birthday). He was due to go back to work today after his second knee replacement op.
That 1418 was his first new tractor unit, he ran it to Spain for quite a long time. He packed in as a haulier in 2012, (the same time as I did,) but like a lot of us took a job immediately, I did the same but l only worked full time for another year. I will ring him tomorrow and tell him about the photo. I was actually hoping for a shot of one of my motors when I found this. Regards Kev.

Thanks for the comments Kev ! What was your company called ■■?

Dean, in the 70s I worked for Waugh Transport of Newcastle. Like a lot of older members on TNUK I keep hoping to find a motor I drove on this excellent time warp thread. . Atkinson Borderer, NTY683M. Then Mercedes 1418. How I hated that bloody merc!!! Regards Kev.

Hello Kev, found these whilst looking for something else !

[limey]

NFA 112P, my father at the wheel. 250 ■■■■■■■■ 9 speed Fuller. Prior to that he had an A Series with the 220 ■■■■■■■ and was given the choice of either a Foden or one of the then new B Series for his next vehicle. Despite my pleading for the S80 option he obviously chose wisely.

98% of its time was spend coupled to a powder tank generally running alternatively to Stanford-le-hope and Motherwell. On this occasion it looks like it had been drafted in to help the tippers and seeing as it is sheeted was most likely on route to one of the steelworks.

Towards the end of its life it was double shifted and finished its days off road moving a 50t scrap compactor around in Leicestershire.

Some vehicle. Some picture. Some effort by Paul and Dean.
Thank you from both myself and the still pulling powder tanks around B Series pilot.

[gingerfold]

Spillers leyland

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I cannot quite make out the reg. number on the Buffalo, but it is one of the “headless wonder” 510 engine models, all of which had died by the time I joined Spillers in 1981. We were still running lots of TL11 engine Buffalos then and for the next few years. The tank is interesting, it being a specially built short chassis tank for customers with restricted access in London, of which there were several back then (and still one or two remain today). That tank was usually based at Spillers’ Tilbury mill and had its donkey engine for pressurising the barrel under-slung in mid-chassis of the trailer. It was always Spillers’ policy to have power packs on the tank trailers, usually at the front, rather than on the tractive unit. This gave greater flexibility within the fleet, every tractive unit could pull a tank, and the life of a tank trailer at 15 years was twice that of a tractive unit, so capital costs were lower.

This thread really is a treasure trove of memories, not only of half-forgotten titbits such as the above, but also of names and companies that are no longer around.

[retired_old_fart]

Lawrence Dunbar:

Retired Old ■■■■:
I could be wrong, Dean, but I reckon that’s the same unit.

Hi ROF, Have you been on the Malts or what, Perhaps you need to go to Specsavers , ERF & Seddon Atki ■■?, Oh dear , go on have some more Malts, Regards Larry.

A couple of pints of “Proper” cider, Larry. It obviously doesn’t affect the eyesight like the Scottish water!
The JRM vehicle back on page 5 of this thread (Whiskey makes you sleep, as well?) is the very same Seddon Atki as the more recent posting.
No apology necessary, but a bottle of the good stuff would suffice!

[deanb]

Limey:
NFA 112P, my father at the wheel. 250 ■■■■■■■■ 9 speed Fuller. Prior to that he had an A Series with the 220 ■■■■■■■ and was given the choice of either a Foden or one of the then new B Series for his next vehicle. Despite my pleading for the S80 option he obviously chose wisely.

98% of its time was spend coupled to a powder tank generally running alternatively to Stanford-le-hope and Motherwell. On this occasion it looks like it had been drafted in to help the tippers and seeing as it is sheeted was most likely on route to one of the steelworks.

Towards the end of its life it was double shifted and finished its days off road moving a 50t scrap compactor around in Leicestershire.

Some vehicle. Some picture. Some effort by Paul and Dean.
Thank you from both myself and the still pulling powder tanks around B Series pilot.

Happy days Limey ! Sounds like it had a hard life !
If you want a pic of it for your old fella PM me your email address and i will
get Paul to send original without copywright on it.

gingerfold:
Spillers leyland

I cannot quite make out the reg. number on the Buffalo, but it is one of the “headless wonder” 510 engine models, all of which had died by the time I joined Spillers in 1981. We were still running lots of TL11 engine Buffalos then and for the next few years. The tank is interesting, it being a specially built short chassis tank for customers with restricted access in London, of which there were several back then (and still one or two remain today). That tank was usually based at Spillers’ Tilbury mill and had its donkey engine for pressurising the barrel under-slung in mid-chassis of the trailer. It was always Spillers’ policy to have power packs on the tank trailers, usually at the front, rather than on the tractive unit. This gave greater flexibility within the fleet, every tractive unit could pull a tank, and the life of a tank trailer at 15 years was twice that of a tractive unit, so capital costs were lower.

This thread really is a treasure trove of memories, not only of half-forgotten titbits such as the above, but also of names and companies that are no longer around.

I could not agree more “gingerfold” there are some absolute gems on here ! Like you say its intresting
what comes back when you look at these pics,and what you have forgotten until you see some of the
trucks and companies again. Heres another Spillers ,i think its the same truck/trailer and taken in the
same spot,but its definately a different picture.Driver has shirt in first one and vest in second !

Todays pics.

Meachers Scammell

Ford concrete mixer looks like Poole to me.

Tidy Scania 111

Roberts from Barnsley 88

Wycombe haulage DAF, looks like Southampton.

G & D Cunningham, Man.

Mighty Transcon,looks like a Ford Granada.

Plain Scania

[deanb]

A couple of yard shots. Dont know where they were taken but the crane maybe a clue to someone ?

ERF new chassis.

Bedford TM timber truck.

I think it says Northover on front MAN

Think it says G & J Price on Maggie.

Foreign draw-bar

Amey half cab Foden

MAN

Jaydee heavy haulier DAF

[robthedog]

DEANB:

Limey:
NFA 112P, my father at the wheel. 250 ■■■■■■■■ 9 speed Fuller. Prior to that he had an A Series with the 220 ■■■■■■■ and was given the choice of either a Foden or one of the then new B Series for his next vehicle. Despite my pleading for the S80 option he obviously chose wisely.

98% of its time was spend coupled to a powder tank generally running alternatively to Stanford-le-hope and Motherwell. On this occasion it looks like it had been drafted in to help the tippers and seeing as it is sheeted was most likely on route to one of the steelworks.

Towards the end of its life it was double shifted and finished its days off road moving a 50t scrap compactor around in Leicestershire.

Some vehicle. Some picture. Some effort by Paul and Dean.
Thank you from both myself and the still pulling powder tanks around B Series pilot.

Later Mk3 Cortina I wold say.

Happy days Limey ! Sounds like it had a hard life !
If you want a pic of it for your old fella PM me your email address and i will
get Paul to send original without copywright on it.

gingerfold:
Spillers leyland

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I cannot quite make out the reg. number on the Buffalo, but it is one of the “headless wonder” 510 engine models, all of which had died by the time I joined Spillers in 1981. We were still running lots of TL11 engine Buffalos then and for the next few years. The tank is interesting, it being a specially built short chassis tank for customers with restricted access in London, of which there were several back then (and still one or two remain today). That tank was usually based at Spillers’ Tilbury mill and had its donkey engine for pressurising the barrel under-slung in mid-chassis of the trailer. It was always Spillers’ policy to have power packs on the tank trailers, usually at the front, rather than on the tractive unit. This gave greater flexibility within the fleet, every tractive unit could pull a tank, and the life of a tank trailer at 15 years was twice that of a tractive unit, so capital costs were lower.

This thread really is a treasure trove of memories, not only of half-forgotten titbits such as the above, but also of names and companies that are no longer around.

I could not agree more “gingerfold” there are some absolute gems on here ! Like you say its intresting
what comes back when you look at these pics,and what you have forgotten until you see some of the
trucks and companies again. Heres another Spillers ,i think its the same truck/trailer and taken in the
same spot,but its definately a different picture.Driver has shirt in first one and vest in second !

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Todays pics.

8

Meachers Scammell

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Ford concrete mixer looks like Poole to me.

6

Tidy Scania 111

5

Roberts from Barnsley 88

4

Wycombe haulage DAF, looks like Southampton.

3

G & D Cunningham, Man.

2

Mighty Transcon,looks like a Ford Granada.

1

Plain Scania

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[deanb]

Paul has just informed me that the yard in the pics with the crane was situated just outside of Monmouth
on the A4136 if that jogs anyones memory ■■?

The ERF dealer was situated also on the A4136 heading back towards the A40.

[deanb]

Todays pics,starting with BRS Dodge.

UCC Scania

Tidy Scania draw-bar.

ARC Scammell

Mercedes and F86,think the blue one is a Dodge and Leyland

Foden

Guy Big J 6 wheeler

Nice looking Foden of Maldwyn Davies

French Maggie. Is that a Hillman Avenger ■■

Unigate ERF

[deanb]

Period adverts

This Avis advert made me laugh,they offered green shield stamps !!! Remember we used to have books of
the bloody things when we were kids…

[deanb]

Transcon loaded with scrap.

Marathon

Tidy TM. I saw a Ford ■■■■■■ like the one in the pic a few weeks ago. You forget how small they are
compared to modern cars,and the tyres looked very thin when following it.

Crusader

Definately a popular motor back in the 70s.

Think its a Welsh Mercedes.

Williams Bros F86 not sure where they are from.

Tidy Foden

Seddon Atkinson. Cant make name out.

Bolton roadways MAN

[240_gardner]

Limey:
NFA 112P, my father at the wheel. 250 ■■■■■■■■ 9 speed Fuller. Prior to that he had an A Series with the 220 ■■■■■■■ and was given the choice of either a Foden or one of the then new B Series for his next vehicle. Despite my pleading for the S80 option he obviously chose wisely.

98% of its time was spend coupled to a powder tank generally running alternatively to Stanford-le-hope and Motherwell. On this occasion it looks like it had been drafted in to help the tippers and seeing as it is sheeted was most likely on route to one of the steelworks.

Towards the end of its life it was double shifted and finished its days off road moving a 50t scrap compactor around in Leicestershire.

Some vehicle. Some picture. Some effort by Paul and Dean.
Thank you from both myself and the still pulling powder tanks around B Series pilot.

Oi, Limester! Did you find my PM?

[bubbleman]

Hiya…Heres a lorry which Paul photographed a bit up the page in its 1st owners livery,Cheers Bubbs,

[deanb]

bubbleman:
Hiya…Heres a lorry which Paul photographed a bit up the page in its 1st owners livery,Cheers Bubbs,

Thanks for the picture Bubbs !

[paul_john]

HI Dean. The Deutz pulling the Bell container was GDJ Price from Nash Newport. Iirc Nash is in between Cardiff and Newport on the coast. They also ran a 8 wheel Deutz tipper and a 4 wheeler out of Catnic.
Maldwyn Davies kept that Foden for ever and also a Borderer M reg which I drove a couple of times once to Oxford. A 180 Gardner, I thought I’d never get home, slow but sure.

Answering your question from last week, my family’s motors wouldn’t have had a name on the headboard or specific livery as we never ran more than 4/5 at any one time. During this period the operators license would of been in David John Manufacturing, an engineering company which they worked in. Two local 7.5 tonners would have had hideous stickers on the doors, as they were in and out of customers premises. The rest on general haulage were low key, and when looking for return loads we just went by DJ Transport.
We were always busy heading to the Midlands and back with engineering/steel products for HY-MAC, Henley fork lifts, Crompton Electricars, Triang-Toys, Natural Gas Tubes and a host of small engineering company’s around the Heads of The Valley. Probably the best contract was working for Whitbread Brewery through out the summer and major holidays delivering to the pubs and clubs. A long time ago.

Thanks for the photo’s and memories, although I feel old now!
Paul.

[punchy_dan]

The above seddon Atki 8 wheeler loaded with coal looks the part , you can keep the Scammells

[kmills]

A real Mary Hopkins moment for me, back on page 6. A great picture of Roy Tolley, an owner driver from Hereford. This was IIRC Roy’s second Scania, previously he’d had a LB76. This 110 followed, then a 6x2 140, a 141 and a 142. I’m sure I read on the Southampton thread some time ago that Pat Duffy bought his first 110 off Roy - I think this would have been the one.
Anyway - the Mary Hopkins bit - I didn’t spot it at first, but look closely and you can see Roy’s son in the passenger seat- he had 2 sons, but I’m pretty sure that this is his eldest, who I happened to go to school with. Wow, as my Dad also had a 110 Scania at the time, you can probably guess the topic of conversation at school on many occasions…

I would certainly like to echo the appreciation for Paul Gee and his pictures - DeanB, if you are still in touch, please pass on my delight & gratitude from the other side of the world.

[kmills]

Another quick one from me - my Dad was a South Herefordshire haulier and knew ‘old’ Fred Baldry - he tells me of an occasion when one of Fred’s F86’s was between their base at Orcop and Wormlow, when the driver had an accident and hit a telephone post - but was hardly to blame as the cab had just unexpectedly tilted. The mind boggles!

[coomsey]

BonkeyDollocks:
Indeed Coomsey lad, I was told once it was a one off to celebrate the silver jubilee of '77. It’s a superb photo.

And to Dean - I know a chap that is compiling a book on Tarmac’s history and would love to include the pic in his book. Full copyright details will be included and Paul will be mentioned in the acknowledgements.

Yes B D repainted 77 and driven by John Shepard long serving driver. Went on to new T reg S83 after this un, one of six

[coomsey]

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coomsey:
Now theres an oddity Spencers out n out ERF men ran 15/20 of em in the 70s tidy fleet
N even odder they’re still going went for Scania now a few Volvos
Cheers Dean/Paul

Sounded good until I found a few more, I know nowt. Spencers were def ERF men wonder why the swap to SedAk
B D Tarmac Reiver trying to hide, I drove one for a while n thought they were a fair bit of kit, never let me down in 9months n ate Gardners for dinner. What was top speed in em can’t remember for the life of me?