PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

scantastic · 3 July 2017 17:57

Should have been coatbridge

oiltreader · 3 July 2017 18:13

SCANTASTIC:
Should have been coatbridge

I was working in Grangemouth late 50s and tho’ the memory takes a bit o stirring these days I do recollect them being there foodchainmagazine.com/2006/1 … ssell-ltd/ Russell Grangemouth, Russell Bathgate all related to the original Russell Edinburgh.
Oily

punchy_dan · 3 July 2017 18:59

my mate also got a shot of it at some point .

moomooland:

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order? David

You are indeed correct David.
I emailed Sean at the Foden Society and ths was his reply
“My understanding is this is an export market cab. Australia, Africa, etc. The additional roof keeps direct heat from the sun off the top of the cab and has a built in exterior sun visor over the windscreen. Back in the day these were considered to be a very special long distance truck. The lorry may have been a cancelled export order or could have been specified by Jays as they did operate on the continent.”

punchy_dan · 3 July 2017 19:00

Edit ,the other looks like KDJ240P ?

scantastic · 3 July 2017 19:06

Hi oily the same RUSSELL started in Gartcosh after they sold the Grangemouth operation to TDG as far as I believe as you say they are all related

kingswinford_kit · 3 July 2017 19:23

ianto:
Bick Brothers have a filling station on the outskirts of Knighton on the A4113 to Leintwardine

Hey DEAN ,thanks for the Caswell Borderer ,another little gem .i wonder if Paul managed to get a shot of one of their F86 Volvos ?
The F88 is Andrew Brick from Knighton ,which he later replaced with an Scania III unit ,the filling station is long gone , and now sells tractors and agriculture equipment , once again DEAN thanks for posting such superb stuff ,and of course thanks to Paul also ,regards Keith .

deanb · 3 July 2017 21:16

moomooland:
0Great selection of pictures as usual.
Jays of Atherton ran a few of these Foden S40 tractor units with the unusual roof.
Jays closed down in 2001.
There’s a picture of another of their S40’s Reg No KCK 240N heading up the M1 here on Flickr

Thanks for your input !

oiltreader:
Hi DEANB John G Russell of Grangemouth.
Oily

Thanks Oily for the info !

5thwheel:

moomooland:
0Great selection of pictures as usual.
Jays of Atherton ran a few of these Foden S40 tractor units with the unusual roof.
Jays closed down in 2001.
There’s a picture of another of their S40’s Reg No KCK 240N heading up the M1 here on Flickr

The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order?

David

windrush:

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order?

David

That’s correct, it can get blooming hot in Atherton though! Great pics again.

Pete.

moomooland:

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order? David

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You are indeed correct David.
I emailed Sean at the Foden Society and ths was his reply
“My understanding is this is an export market cab. Australia, Africa, etc. The additional roof keeps direct heat from the sun off the top of the cab and has a built in exterior sun visor over the windscreen. Back in the day these were considered to be a very special long distance truck. The lorry may have been a cancelled export order or could have been specified by Jays as they did operate on the continent.”

You are indeed correct David.
I emailed Sean at the Foden Society and ths was his reply
“My understanding is this is an export market cab. Australia, Africa, etc. The additional roof keeps direct heat from the sun off the top of the cab and has a built in exterior sun visor over the windscreen. Back in the day these were considered to be a very special long distance truck. The lorry may have been a cancelled export order or could have been specified by Jays as they did operate on the continent.”
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Thanks to “5thwheel” , “Windrush” , “Moomooland” for the comments and feedback on the Foden,
and also the photo !

Punchy Dan:
The Atki artic tippers first one is Bill Howard burton on Trent not sure on the second on ,I think Dean you’ve put one of Howard’s on previously .

Thanks “Punchy Dan” for the name,too many companies to keep up with !

gingerfold:

moomooland:

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order? David

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You are indeed correct David.
I emailed Sean at the Foden Society and ths was his reply
“My understanding is this is an export market cab. Australia, Africa, etc. The additional roof keeps direct heat from the sun off the top of the cab and has a built in exterior sun visor over the windscreen. Back in the day these were considered to be a very special long distance truck. The lorry may have been a cancelled export order or could have been specified by Jays as they did operate on the continent.”

Jays stopped running lorries in 2001, but William Jay was still operating as an “agent” until at least a couple of years ago.

gingerfold:
No comment on the Sheeting & Roping —it’s Sunday ! But what I am interested in is the drive axle on that SA, it definitely isn’t by the look of the hubs that lousy Group axle Seddon insisted on fitting on motors with a bigger engine than a 180LXB ! So would it have been an Eaton axle maybe ? Cheers Bewick.

Thanks for your comments Dennis, hopefully someone will know about the drive axle ?

It looks like an Eaton.

Hovis ERF, used to deliver to there huge mill on the docks as a kid in the 70s.
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We had a batch of theses ERF B Series 6-wheelers scattered throughout the RHM empire, and IIRC these were the first ERF’s bought by RHM for many, many years. Foden had always been the Sandbach built lorry of choice for Ranks. The ERF’s had Gardner 6LXB 180 engines, Gardner’s had always been the default engine choice since the 1930’s, when Diesels replaced Foden steamers.

Meachers Seddon.
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My favourite Seddon cab.
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Thanks for your input “gingerfold”

Bewick:

pete smith:
This pic of Bewicks motor must have been taken later than the rest as you can see the North Bound services at Ross Spur have been built, what year would you make this Dennis?

79/80 maybe Pete although I just can’t get a handle on the load ! It’s fly sheeted ( requires repair) so it’s not the likes of waste paper but a mystery all the same. Cheers Dennis.

Thanks Dennis !

SCANTASTIC:
John g Russell were based in gartcosh near glasgow purple John still going strong now based in Cambridge

SCANTASTIC:
Should have been coatbridge

SCANTASTIC:
Hi oily the same RUSSELL started in Gartcosh after they sold the Grangemouth operation to TDG as far as I believe as you say they are all related

Thanks for the details “SCANTASTIC”

oiltreader:

SCANTASTIC:
Should have been coatbridge

I was working in Grangemouth late 50s and tho’ the memory takes a bit o stirring these days I do recollect them being there foodchainmagazine.com/2006/1 … ssell-ltd/ Russell Grangemouth, Russell Bathgate all related to the original Russell Edinburgh.
Oily

Thanks again Oily for info !

kingswinford kit:

ianto:
Bick Brothers have a filling station on the outskirts of Knighton on the A4113 to Leintwardine

Hey DEAN ,thanks for the Caswell Borderer ,another little gem .i wonder if Paul managed to get a shot of one of their F86 Volvos ?
The F88 is Andrew Brick from Knighton ,which he later replaced with an Scania III unit ,the filling station is long gone , and now sells tractors and agriculture equipment , once again DEAN thanks for posting such superb stuff ,and of course thanks to Paul also ,regards Keith .

Thanks Keith for your comments. Re the F86 of Caswell, i dont think there is one in the first batch of pics
but that does not mean there wont be one in the next !

deanb · 3 July 2017 21:29

Mercedes

Dont know the make of the crane ■■

Tidy Wincanton ERF

Cutlers local company in Bournemouth,Seddon Atkinson. Sadly long gone !

I believe these were from Poole.

John Evans International DAF.Photo taken near the Ferry Man pub as you enter Poole docks.

SAS Bedford

Atkins Mercedes.

Jameson’s F88

Yardley of Leeds,Foden

8lxbv8brian · 3 July 2017 22:55

Bewick:

jshepguis:
Dean B thanks you just keep coming up with the goods SAJ 488R this would be 240 Gardner powered. Possibility by this time that unit could have been based at Newport depot, if not then would be on a changeover from Teesside usually at Derby. Load at back looks a little bit tagged on! Not going to win any brownie points from the ■■■■■■■■ Sheeter with that!
Front of load looks like pallets of plastics out of ICI on teesside as on 40 foot trailers in those days could only get 18 pallets on then two on top over trailer wheels. I do remember a common load to South Wales was Addis plastics not too sure of location exactly ( Pete 359 will probably know) you had to go under a low bridge so if loading you had to remember to break down top two pallets to half height to clear bridge!

No comment on the Sheeting & Roping —it’s Sunday ! But what I am interested in is the drive axle on that SA, it definitely isn’t by the look of the hubs that lousy Group axle Seddon insisted on fitting on motors with a bigger engine than a 180LXB ! So would it have been an Eaton axle maybe ? Cheers Bewick.

Looking at it Dennis I would say Eaton ,the hub looks to small for a CPT KIRK and deff not that other axle. -

pv83 · 4 July 2017 02:48

It’s a Grove Dean, can’t tell ya which model though…

deanb · 4 July 2017 06:58

Morning chaps, hope you have taken your blood pressure tablets this morning !

T.D.Williams Scammell

Tidy Hovis Foden

Nice Borderer,from Swansea.Whats the name Spring ■■

DAF

Tidy ERF

Air products ERF

ERF, six wheeler,no name ?

F86 of Kwikform. Whats the car ■■?

Staveley Lime ERF

bonkeydollocks · 4 July 2017 07:08

Blooming heck Dean! When Limey sees this pic, he’ll need more than blood pressure tablets! I think it’s his old fella behind the wheel and he’s been after a pic of that wagon for a good number of years!
You’ll be his best mate for years now!

And the car in the pic just above the Staveley ERF is a Vauxhall Chevette.

deanb · 4 July 2017 07:56

Some adverts from 1978

Out of intrest what roughly was the wage back in 1978 ■■ Just trying to get an idea how much
the mighty bedford cost.

Iveco

ERF

The yanks are coming…but didnt stay !

Sealink

Eaton

Rolls Royce

I bet Myrina dont look like that any more ■■? 1978

BRS

Firestone

hrs · 4 July 2017 08:13

DEANB:
Morning chaps, hope you have taken your blood pressure tablets this morning !
Good morning dean,I have been looking at this good morning picture for some time now and at last " I have it" it is an early curtain-sider with a heavy Cant rail, Do I win anything ■■ Harvey
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T.D.Williams Scammell

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Tidy Hovis Foden

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Nice Borderer,from Swansea.Whats the name Spring ■■

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DAF

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Tidy ERF

5

Air products ERF

4

ERF, six wheeler,no name ?

3

F86 of Kwikform. Whats the car ■■?

2

Staveley Lime ERF

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deanb · 4 July 2017 08:47

HRS:

DEANB:
Morning chaps, hope you have taken your blood pressure tablets this morning !
Good morning dean,I have been looking at this good morning picture for some time now and at last " I have it" it is an early curtain-sider with a heavy Cant rail, Do I win anything ■■ Harvey
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No prizes Harvey,but its fit ! You cant help but keep looking at it,not a bad screensaver actually !

deanb · 4 July 2017 08:52

Retired Old ■■■■:
Thanks for that photo of J R Margrett’s S-Atki, the driver of which was …? Marshall. As a dedicated ERF fan, J.R. couldn’t wait to get rid of the S/A- he reckoned that it spent twice as much time in the workshop (barn!) than the rest of the lorries put together.

“Retired Old ■■■■” heres another one of J.R.Margrett’s .Unfortunately its a Seddon again and not
a ERF !

retired_old_fart · 4 July 2017 20:28

I could be wrong, Dean, but I reckon that’s the same unit.

lawrence_dunbar · 4 July 2017 21:33

Retired Old ■■■■:
I could be wrong, Dean, but I reckon that’s the same unit.

Hi ROF, Have you been on the Malts or what, Perhaps you need to go to Specsavers , ERF & Seddon Atki ■■?, Oh dear , go on have some more Malts, Regards Larry.

deanb · 5 July 2017 16:09

8LXBV8BRIAN:

Bewick:

jshepguis:
Dean B thanks you just keep coming up with the goods SAJ 488R this would be 240 Gardner powered. Possibility by this time that unit could have been based at Newport depot, if not then would be on a changeover from Teesside usually at Derby. Load at back looks a little bit tagged on! Not going to win any brownie points from the ■■■■■■■■ Sheeter with that!
Front of load looks like pallets of plastics out of ICI on teesside as on 40 foot trailers in those days could only get 18 pallets on then two on top over trailer wheels. I do remember a common load to South Wales was Addis plastics not too sure of location exactly ( Pete 359 will probably know) you had to go under a low bridge so if loading you had to remember to break down top two pallets to half height to clear bridge!

No comment on the Sheeting & Roping —it’s Sunday ! But what I am interested in is the drive axle on that SA, it definitely isn’t by the look of the hubs that lousy Group axle Seddon insisted on fitting on motors with a bigger engine than a 180LXB ! So would it have been an Eaton axle maybe ? Cheers Bewick.

Looking at it Dennis I would say Eaton ,the hub looks to small for a CPT KIRK and deff not that other axle. -

Thanks for the comment “8LXBV8BRIAN”

pv83:
It’s a Grove Dean, can’t tell ya which model though…

Cheers Patrick, wasnt paying attention cant miss Groves !

BonkeyDollocks:
Blooming heck Dean! When Limey sees this pic, he’ll need more than blood pressure tablets! I think it’s his old fella behind the wheel and he’s been after a pic of that wagon for a good number of years!
You’ll be his best mate for years now!

And the car in the pic just above the Staveley ERF is a Vauxhall Chevette.

“BonkeyDollocks” thanks for the input.