ThrustMaster:
The HC is mostly for guidance. There is no legal obligation to obey Rule 168.
OK fine. Try blocking a truck out in L2 on a 2 lane for miles one day when there is a Police car behind it and see who gets booked for obstruction or driving without due consideration for other road users.
jessicas dad:
Driveroneuk:
PaulNowak:
My bugbear is things like what happened to me today. Passing Argos artic on the A14, I’m about a third of the way along his trailer when he looks up and notices another truck merging in from the slip road. So straight on with the indicator, and starts moving across on me, because he’s in an artic, and I’m not.Obviously I’m going to give in to him, because he failed to read the road.
Errr, who failed to read the road? You’re overtaking on a 2 lane road approaching an on slip.
Did you not consider it likely that the Argos driver may have a need to courteously move over to allow joining traffic on?This is a type of road layout where accidents frequently happen. You blocked his escape route off. You had positioned yourself as the meat in the sandwich, between the HGV and the armco.
Why should he have read the road differently? ■■?
At the end off the slip road is giveway markings so the joining vehicle has to give way to traffic on the motorway and change his speed accordingly.
What if (which you should constantly be thinking when driving) the joining vehicle doesn’t change his speed or stop at the give way, but forces his way out?
Where is the driver in L1 likely to go as an escape route?
Driveroneuk:
ThrustMaster:
The HC is mostly for guidance. There is no legal obligation to obey Rule 168.OK fine. Try blocking a truck out in L2 on a 2 lane for miles one day when there is a Police car behind it and see who gets booked for obstruction or driving without due consideration for other road users.
I fail to see how a vehicle in L1 can be accused of blocking a vehicle in L2. As with everything in life, it’s upto each individual to make their own way, on their respective journeys and I cannot be held responsible if they make ill-thought out decisions.
Driveroneuk:
jessicas dad:
Driveroneuk:
PaulNowak:
My bugbear is things like what happened to me today. Passing Argos artic on the A14, I’m about a third of the way along his trailer when he looks up and notices another truck merging in from the slip road. So straight on with the indicator, and starts moving across on me, because he’s in an artic, and I’m not.Obviously I’m going to give in to him, because he failed to read the road.
Errr, who failed to read the road? You’re overtaking on a 2 lane road approaching an on slip.
Did you not consider it likely that the Argos driver may have a need to courteously move over to allow joining traffic on?This is a type of road layout where accidents frequently happen. You blocked his escape route off. You had positioned yourself as the meat in the sandwich, between the HGV and the armco.
Why should he have read the road differently? ■■?
At the end off the slip road is giveway markings so the joining vehicle has to give way to traffic on the motorway and change his speed accordingly.
What if (which you should constantly be thinking when driving) the joining vehicle doesn’t change his speed or stop at the give way, but forces his way out?
Where is the driver in L1 likely to go as an escape route?
I can only assume that you are trolling this thread or just being incredibly stupid. It’s one or the other for sure.
The answer to your question on what Mr. Lane 1 trucker is going to do is either :
a. use his brake pedal.
b. carry on maintaining his course and speed and let Mr. Slip Ramp use his brake pedal or go on an off-road expedition via several embankments.
Either way, not Mr. Lane 2’s problem. Obvious common sense is obvious common sense. 
For some folks you can switch on the lights, but they still can’t see.
I can only assume that you are trolling this thread or just being incredibly stupid. It’s one or the other for sure.
The answer to your question on what Mr. Lane 1 trucker is going to do is either :
a. use his brake pedal.
b. carry on maintaining his course and speed and let Mr. Slip Ramp use his brake pedal or go on an off-road expedition via several embankments.Either way, not Mr. Lane 2’s problem. Obvious common sense is obvious common sense.
+1
And if you are Mr Lane 2 and you he noticed Mr Slip Road coming down and not showing any signs of stopping Mr lane 2 could move over at his own free will to give truck in lane 1 a route to escape, but as stated Mr Lane 2 don’t have to as it is not his probleem
Driveroneuk:
For some folks you can switch on the lights, but they still can’t see.
to me you’re mixing up being courteous and you’re obligations
This thread is very much like playground banter, " My Dad’s bigger than your Dad kind of stuff!"
I believe that it won’t be too long before there are a lot more overtaking bans for 7.5t plus vehicles, as they have in Germany. It’s not such a bad thing, doesn’t seem to have affected their economy??
Daz
I want to get moving but I will end up being stuck behind a Wisemen, Asda, Tesco and a Stobart driver wanting his £5 fuel bonus
This thread is exactly like being on the road, we’ve got the why tf should I etc. etc. stars , the I haven’t got a minute to spare types 
, the I’m not giving an inch so there! crew (don’t have a smiley with a coffee hand shake ), and the proper drivers that take every type of situation in their stride and deal with it in a professional manner 
, it’s an overtaking manouevere ffs… it aint that important, cut out the stress back off two clicks and let him past, what does it matter?? This bickering amongst drivers culminating in crap and discourteous driving is a result of speedlimiters being introduced… end of, so deal with it professionally 
, ok some of you didn’t drive pre-speed limiter days, but this did not happen then, so prevent your first heart attacks and chill ffs!
robroy:
This thread is exactly like being on the road, we’ve got the why tf should I etc. etc. stars
BUT! BUT! IF I EASE OFF THEN THE ONE BEHIND WILL COME PAST, THEN THE ONE BEHIND HIM, AND THE ONE BEHIND HIM AND I’LL NEVER GET ANYWHERE AND MISS MY TESCO BOOKING TIME!!!111111111111111
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Rob K:
robroy:
This thread is exactly like being on the road, we’ve got the why tf should I etc. etc. starsBUT! BUT! IF I EASE OFF THEN THE ONE BEHIND WILL COME PAST, THEN THE ONE BEHIND HIM, AND THE ONE BEHIND HIM AND I’LL NEVER GET ANYWHERE AND MISS MY TESCO BOOKING TIME!!!111111111111111
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I see that you felt the need to cover the Wooooooooosh angle shown frequently by some on here Rob 
PaulNowak:
My bugbear is things like what happened to me today. Passing Argos artic on the A14, I’m about a third of the way along his trailer when he looks up and notices another truck merging in from the slip road. So straight on with the indicator, and starts moving across on me, because he’s in an artic, and I’m not.Obviously I’m going to give in to him, because he failed to read the road.
Were you able to go anywhere? Because you failed also if you were still there…
Rob K:
Either way, not Mr. Lane 2’s problem.
Lane 2 could assist though? Doesn’t say how much speed he had before the limit or what was in front or behind, but to not yield on principle in that situation is not something I’d do.
I think you read my thoughts on the slip roads thread, but guy in a car(?) wanting to stand his ground when there’s two wagons needing road, I’d have to favour the wagons.
For the professional drivers amongst you, the following is taken from The Highway Code:
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably when someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
Express Pete:
For the professional drivers amongst you, the following is taken from The Highway Code:Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably when someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle.
Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
And that is the difference between a safe competent and proficient truck driver, and a guy who calls himself a truck driver because he holds a licence.
Sort the categories out by the comments posted on here 
Rob K:
robroy:
This thread is exactly like being on the road, we’ve got the why tf should I etc. etc. starsBUT! BUT! IF I EASE OFF THEN THE ONE BEHIND WILL COME PAST, THEN THE ONE BEHIND HIM, AND THE ONE BEHIND HIM AND I’LL NEVER GET ANYWHERE AND MISS MY TESCO BOOKING TIME!!!111111111111111
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I have heard the same argument given for when another pulls in too close in front - If I back off then the one behind will start to pass and then another etc etc
The driver must decide which comes first - safety/good driving or convenience
newmercman:
redbob:
Driveroneuk:
Highway Code (which many of you have not read for a very long time)Rule 168
Being overtaken
If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably when someone is overtaking you is dangerous.
Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.And?
Yeah I’ll slow down to let some impatient person pass when I’m struggling on time to make it home for the weekend. As quoted I would maintain a steady course…thanks.
If dangerous I would obviously slow down and would NOT obstruct anyoneIf your runs are scheduled to the point that slowing down a couple of mph for a few seconds is the difference between getting home or not, then you should seriously consider getting a new job
Or maybe that’s not the case, but you drive as though it is, on the limiter at all costs, nobody is going to pass you if you can help it
Attitudes like this are a big part of the problem, too many are I’m first and [zb] everyone else, a sad state of affairs
Well surley the same point could be made for the person trying to overtake■■? Idiot!
Redbob, you are quoting several people, which one are you calling an idiot?
Personal insults are not allowed on this forum.
redbob:
Well surley the same point could be made for the person trying to overtake■■? Idiot!
the only reason he is struggling to overtake,is because he is DRIVING ON THE LIMITER.
by DRVING ON THE LIMITER,you have reduced your options by 50%…you can only go slower.
I can choose to go faster if I want
