Mike-C:
Of course we don’t have the climate for them. We don’t really have the climate for year round tomatos, but we still get them from Poland year round because they can be produced cheaper there, and Poland doesn’t have the climate for them year round either.
Yes. So if you want to resign from transporting fruits and vegetable, you will have stick to old potatoes stored in your garden shed and swede for the whole winter…
Oh i think you’ll find they would. The biggest thing to stop local producers ironically is EU legislation. Imagine if farmers worldwide complained about a level playing field like the Belgian truck drivers are doing ? EU is designed to squeeze them out? Thats why i like Aldi and Lidl Always sell UK produce, ironic again i know !
The farming market in EU is totally different from the farming market outside EU thanks to the subsidies. Ironically the richest farmers get more, so British farmer is subsidied more than Polish one and the French ones are just masters of milking EU farming subsidies system… So I am afraid that if everyone would get the same subsidies (or none at all), the cheaper ones from better climate countries will have much better prices to offer… And unless force people to eat local stuff, the traffic will be even bigger…
But if you manufacture what you need you will have to use local transport to move your goods to your local market. Unless maybe you think EE haulier may come over to UK to move washing machines to local RDC’s? In anycase supplying a local market is sustainable for profit and employment. It just won’t give you the ‘growth’ that venture capitalists require for investment. So ‘we’ don’t need access to an EE market, only venture capitalists do.
This is 1920s view of the world. The exchange of the production is needed not only for economy, it is also valid for exchanging the ideas, giving people more choices etc…This is how the world goes ahead - you import BMW and then your local manufacturer sees you like it and tries to develop even better car… If the acces of foreign technologies is limited, well, this is what we have:
These are Polish roads exactly 25 years ago (the movie was made in 1986-7). Look at the cars…
So, as you can see, I’ve been there and done that, and I do not recomend it,
Also nowadays we are surrounded with advanced technology… Developing such technology costs, so altough you might be right when it comes to socks and underpants, to return all costs you had to develop a new car or smartfone, you have to sell it worldwide… Today car manufacturers join their powers and sell the same product under different badges all over the world, and you suggest that it would be possible to develop a car just for one country? Unless you are talking about Reliant Robins alikes, that is no longer the case…
I’m not afraid either, we have a pretty good welfare state and i never seen anyone starve here, so i guess we’ll be fine.
Yes, because money grow on trees in UK . In case you haven’t noticed, the society in Europe gets older and older. Unless we keep letting immigrants in, or suddenly start to have 5 kids each, the welfare system has to collapse, because from the times of Bismarck it is build as a pyramide that young ones pay to keep old ones on their comfy retirements.
Its just a shame that we’re counting the cost of you not having to queue for bread for two hours. Its not something i begrudge, but i would of liked a say in it seeing as it affects me, I’ve never had a say in it. If i did your queue would be dowm to half an hour now and not a Tesco Metro in the village !!!
Well, I never had anything to say if I like to queue for bread or not, you know. But it is funny that you like the idea of equal playing field only if its good for you, and idea of “every european country queues for bread for 1 hour” is not so funny for you…