cury:
Right lets move this one on a bit…how many of you would take an untaxed wagon out onto the road…would it still be coverd by insurance
Depends on the situation, where I work the wheels wouldn’t turn, big firm with proceedures in place, would probably find myself up on a dicipline enquiry if I did take it out, but if I worked for an od or small family firm I would probably take it out, as I may be given the crap work for being awkward 
Driver should notice on his walk round if tax disc is out of date.
If it is he/she should return to the transport office & report this.
If the office tell you it has been taxed online, but the disc has not yet arrived, providing the date is no more than the 5th of the month, you’re ok to go out onto the road.
(Obviously you don’t set off tramping for a week!)
cury:
Right lets move this one on a bit…how many of you would take an untaxed wagon out onto the road…would it still be coverd by insurance
Not sure but i think if theres no mot it invalidates your’e insurance as thats a safety issue!
Al
Pursuant to the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994, anybody who uses or keeps a vehicle on a public road, without there being a valid road licence, face the following penalties:
A fine of up to £1,000.
If it is greater than £1,000, a fine equal to five times the amount of duty payable to tax the vehicle.
Ordered to pay all back duty owed since the vehicle was last licensed.
Surely the driver is using the vehicle,so is guilty of an offence? Depends on the definition of “uses”, I suppose.
Just get in and drive her it’s only a tax disc! Won’t make her go any better. One for the office numpties to sort out.
A few years ago now I worked for a bloke who had a couple trucks on the road and was full of good excuses like your wages in the post and taxes in the post I was in the services up by Leeds and the police knocked on the cab and said we see you’ve opted out of the tax scheme when they realised the track was not mine I asked a few questions and then went I never heard any more about it and I think the owner got a fine so from experience I don’t think anything would happen to you
I found this info online. Hope it helps
What is the penalty for not displaying a tax disc?
Pursuant to the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994, anybody who uses or keeps a vehicle on a public road, without there being a valid road licence, face the following penalties:A fine of up to £1,000.
If it is greater than £1,000, a fine equal to five times the amount of duty payable to tax the vehicle.
Ordered to pay all back duty owed since the vehicle was last licensed.
I ordered my tax disc online but it has not yet arrived, is it against the law to drive/park my vehicle on the public highway whilst I wait for the disc to arrive?
Since 1 September 2008, you can legally drive or keep your vehicle on the road up to five days from the end of the month without displaying a valid tax disc provided you have made your application online or by telephone before your current vehicle tax/SORN expires.I was using my vehicle without tax, the Police stopped me, towed away the vehicle and are now threatening to crush it. Is this allowed?
Yes. The Vehicle Excise and Regulation Act 1984 and the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 authorise the Police, local authorities, licensing authorities, to remove and dispose of untaxed, uninsured or unroadworthy vehicles. The vehicles would not normally be crushed until 14 days after seizure.
scantheman:
Not sure but i think if theres no mot it invalidates your’e insurance as thats a safety issue!Al
So how do you get it to the testing station then?
You’ll be telling us next that there’s no insurance if you hadn’t noticed your license expired last week/month/year.
posted by cury » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:59 pm
cury:
OK in for my stupid question of the week.
If you get tugged driving an untaxed wagon what happens to you as the driver, ie points fine etc…don’t think its points but getting different answers (as ever)…no I haven’t been driving an untaxed wagon but I know where they are regularly taking them onto the road…just to clarify that is no valid tax on the unit. One of the units hasn’t been taxed since May and goes out every day!
posted by cury » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:21 pm
cury:
well I rang DVLA about this and they said the driver would be commiting a criminal offence…
when did you phone the DVLA?
if it was before the original posting, why are you questioning what they told you?
if it was after the original post but before the second quoted one, is it just me that can see it?
why would you ask the DVLA about this? their database would flag it up to them and they would fine the operator but its the boys in blue that enforce at the side of the road so they would be giving you the definitive answer on where you as the driver stand. its the police that physically check the vehicle and hand out fixed penalties or NIPs so they would be the ones to ask about this
Driveroneuk:
scantheman:
Not sure but i think if theres no mot it invalidates your’e insurance as thats a safety issue!Al
So how do you get it to the testing station then?
You’ll be telling us next that there’s no insurance if you hadn’t noticed your license expired last week/month/year.
you are allowed to drive it directly to a pre-booked MoT at the test station, but not allowed to drive it continuously on the public road, as this may invalidate your insurance
Driveroneuk:
Driver should notice on his walk round if tax disc is out of date.If it is he/she should return to the transport office & report this.
If the office tell you it has been taxed online, but the disc has not yet arrived, providing the date is no more than the 5th of the month, you’re ok to go out onto the road.
(Obviously you don’t set off tramping for a week!)
you cant purchase roadtax for a lorry online ( boss tries everytime and has too send everything too the nearest dvla office) so i wouldnt fall for that line
scotstrucker:
Driveroneuk:
Driver should notice on his walk round if tax disc is out of date.If it is he/she should return to the transport office & report this.
If the office tell you it has been taxed online, but the disc has not yet arrived, providing the date is no more than the 5th of the month, you’re ok to go out onto the road.
(Obviously you don’t set off tramping for a week!)
you cant purchase roadtax for a lorry online ( boss tries everytime and has too send everything too the nearest dvla office) so i wouldnt fall for that line
if that is what he is telling you, he is talking total ■■■■■■■■
i purchase the road tax for all of mine online, never had a problem yet 
scanny77:
why would you ask the DVLA about this? their database would flag it up to them and they would fine the operator but its the boys in blue that enforce at the side of the road so they would be giving you the definitive answer on where you as the driver stand. its the police that physically check the vehicle and hand out fixed penalties or NIPs so they would be the ones to ask about this
I know in scotland there is a private company that sub-contract to the dvla that have anpr cameras on there vehicles that drive around looking for un taxed vehicles.
If they find cars parked then they clamp them and then arrange for them to be towed away, if the vehicle is taxed and the fees paid within a certain time limit then they will un clamp the cars.
If the camera pics up a vehicle being driven then it reports it straight away to the dvla and to the police
I got a fine for driving with no tax before. It was a van and I was driving it for another fella.
I got stung because I knowingly took the vehicle on the road with no valid tax. Now, if you didn’t know, then you may not be completing the daily checks correctly.
The windscreen-mounted tax disc is visual proof to the authorities that the vehicle is licensed and failure to display a valid tax disc is an offence. Conviction may result in a financial penalty and back duty may also be claimed which could run to hundreds or even thousands of pounds, if the vehicle is unlicensed.
It is the registered keeper who has the responsibility for vehicle documentation, road tax, and insurance.
In the same way that:
A statutory defence is provided by section 143(3) RTA in relation to a driver who unwittingly drives his employer’s uninsured vehicle.
Lets clear some myths up.
“You will get done for no operators licence.”
Wrong, you are the driver, not the operator.
“Passengers are not insured”
Wrong, The vehicle must have at least third party insurance. A passenger is a third party, as is the bollard, the tree or the other vehicle/pedestrian that got squashed.
“You can use trade plates if the vehicle is not roadworthy.”
Wrong, the vehicle must be roadworthy, it must also be insured. Trade plates are a temporary excise licence only.
“You can get done for an overspeed.”
Wrong. An overspeed can happen on a downhill section and is acceptable. Company policy makes it unacceptable for which you cannot “get done”
“My company has not downloaded my VU or driver card for 8 months.”
Not your problem as long as you make your driver card available. (Do you want to download this?) Not now, problem passed to them.
shuttlespanker:
if that is what he is telling you, he is talking total ■■■■■■■■i purchase the road tax for all of mine online, never had a problem yet
you can’t use the online system for vehicles with RPCs 
Denis F:
you can’t use the online system for vehicles with RPCs
Religious Political Cr*p?
I was recently asked to swap vehicles ,both were rented.The new one had expired VED so I refused to hand over the keys until a senior employee of the firm gave instructions. The upshot was the changeover did not happen firm said no way we are using a vehicle without VED.
You can tax your vehicle online or by phone if you:
are the registered keeper of the vehicle and your name, address and any vehicle changes are updated at the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA)
have a V85/1 HGV reminder, a V11 reminder, or a V5C
have valid insurance covering the use of the vehicle on the day the tax disc comes into force
have a valid MOT, goods vehicle or passenger service vehicle test - if needed - which is valid when the tax disc comes into force
have a debit or credit card - a £2.50 service charge applies when using a credit card but there is no charge for using a debit card
have a valid DLA404 if you are entitled to disability exemption