No more honeymoon period for EV owners

Agree its not straight forward with a caravan but the infastructure is coming. My car will tell me where the Caravan suitable chargers are, I have just asked it. There are not many. However I would imagine most caravaners would get to most destinations on a single charge with the right car, no idea what impact a caravan has the range though. Might take a bit of campsite hopping but hassle you don’t get with an ICE car i agree.

I was in Milton Keynes yesterday and noticed a new charging site on the A5. Having a look on zapmap it suggests they are charging 39p/kwh, way cheaper than any public rapid chargers I have seen before, I wonder if that is incorrect.

You could argue a case that in time when / if demand increases that competition will drive prices down while out and about to charge. On the flip side I dare say investors will be keen to get a return so perhaps not.

Yes that price is correct, That is way cheaper than any other rapid charger network by a large margin, Tesla super chargers had dynamic pricing depending on what time of day/night you charged, down to 22p/kwh overnight.
Hopefully this will see the competition dropping their prices.
https://evfleetworld.co.uk/awenergy-cuts-ultra-rapid-ev-charging-rate-to-39p-kwh/

It looks like that is their only (or at least 1st location).

I will ask the obvious question…

I trust you can still get a charge when the wind turbines aren’t spinning…!

I think they are missing a trick here.

If charging stations were twinned with gyms then all of those people losing weight on treadmills cycles and resistance machines, could use energy to charge cars rather than waste it as heat, which is dealt with by electricity using air con systems.

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That equation could be simplified down even further, if you could round up half a dozen would be gym goers to push your car to work in the morning, and some more to get you home.

Best avoid the national speed limit routes though.

Don’t even need to upgrade your old motor, as long as its not too heavy.

Excellent. :grinning:

Highly efficient as there are no losses in energy transmission into useful work.
Maybe just put more keep fitters on rickshaws?

Do those things with one seat and four people underneath carrying you have a name?

Sedan chair?

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This one is like CF’s v12 with AC and Goodmans radio cassette.

Unfortunately I think my socio economic position means I’d only ever be underneath doing the work.

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I always knew there was something missing from my life, and now I’m sure…heated seat belts. :rofl: Oh joy, that’s for me. :rofl:

Genuine question for any electric car owners…If you’re out and about in your vehicle and the battery goes flat and you can’t locate/find a vacant charging point, what do you do? You can’t tour round looking for electricity because the car won’t go (flat battery) To put it bluntly, you stuffed, It’s AA Recovery time.
And any EV owner planning a 2/3 week ‘touring’ holiday with their car I would say forget it, it won’t work.
I live in Dewsbury, West Yorks and to my knowledge there are 2 (yes two) EV charging points in the whole town, they are at the hospital and are guaranteed to be occupied by 08:00am every day.

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The GridServe charging hub in Braintree Essex have exercise bikes that generate electricity back into the system there. https://www.gridserve.com/pressroom/gridserve-opens-uks-first-electric-forecourt/

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It would be pure heaven on a cold Winter’s day. :heart_eyes:

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You’d have to be a bit thick for that to happen, The car will tell you where the nearest chargers are & how many miles range you have left, Most apps will tell you whether the nearest chargers are in use or vacant, Just a little bit of planning before you set off & always have a plan ‘B’.

In all the years I’ve been driving BEV’s I’ve still never used a public charger, I can get by with the cars 199 mile range on a daily basis no problem. All depends on you personal usage eally.

Yes, they will have a large MW grid connection there.

I tried to get solar years ago when the Government were handing out green grants for roof solar, we have a south facing roof & was all set to get measured up when they pulled the green grant money, They also said our roof was too old (100 year old house) after looking on Google Earth of our property. :slightly_frowning_face:

I am really not getting you TBH. If you run out of charge in an EV you are a bit of a d1ck TBH, just as you would be if you run out of any other fuel.

1: I think you are falling into the ‘there are not many chargers’ trap, when there are in fact loads of them.

2: My car will not allow me to run out of charge if I use the Sat Nav. It calculates my charge, how much charge I will have when I get there and if there isnt sufficient charge to complete the journey it tells me. If I choose to ignore that advice it then overrides the Sat Nav and directs me to one. If i run out of charge after all that I really am stupid.

3: A 2/3 week touring holiday would be a piece of cake. I took mine from the South West to Northern Scotland and had no issues at all. I have not hunted for chargers in Europe yet but I have just asked my car where the chargers are to Lyon (As an example) and there are loads, so I wouldn’t be at all concerned about doing it.

4: My car will direct me to unoccupied chargers, so your example about arriving to find them being in use is also inaccurate. I have only once arrived at a charger and had to wait for someone to finish charging and that was Michaelwoods services who are installing loads more. I was stopping there anyway and only topping up. Should i have needed to charge I had other free options in the area but the guy charging was almost complete so I waited and we chatted. EV charging is actually quite a social affair.

5: I have jjust asked my car for EV chargers in Dewsbury and it has given me 26 good options - okay some are Batley/Heckmondwike but never the less there are plenty of options.

6: When driving an EV you stop places (Folks take break) You know your range etc and when i stop and a charger is free I park on it, top up to the required percentage; i just tell the car how much charge i want and it puts that in while i grab a coffee. Managing range is easier and less hassle than an ICE car.

I think you have fallen into the trap of failing to understand how the infastructure works as most of those who dont have an EV do. I am constantly told range/touring is a challenge. It isnt. If you struggle to adapt to new ways of doing things it might be difficult but those with fairly low intelligence would soon work it out.

I remember in my truck driving era. My boss had his own fuel tank and would say: "Put in just enough fuel to get you home, so I would work out how many miles to get home and usually end up chucking in 100 litres or so. The amount of drivers that just couldnt cope with that and had to put in 250-300 litres was incredible. The concept is similar.

A journey in an EV really is easy.

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Thats a shame.

OK, it seems I’ve fallen into quite a few ‘traps’
But the question remains…what do you do if, due to unforeseen circumstances, problems which can’t be planned for, an EV runs out of charge and no means of charging the vehicle.
Oh, and I liked the bits about ‘bit of a d ick’ and ‘fairly low intelligence’, thanks.
Manners don’t cost anything.

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