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1 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 4 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest,(which was assigned to last week) you have to make up some compensation from a few weeks ago of 12 hours and this weekend is the week you have to make it up.

Question is, if you finish work at 12 noon on Saturday, when will the earliest time you can start work on Monday.

2 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 36 hours rest (which was assigned to last week) , you have to make up some compensation from a few weeks ago of 12 hours, and this weekend is the week you have to make it up.

Question is, what day and time do you have to finish to fill your rest requirements and the compensation to start work at 4 am Monday

3 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 56 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week) , you have to make up some compensation from a few weeks ago of 20 hours and this weekend is the week you have to make it up.

Question is, What day and time do you have to finish to fill your rest requirements and the compensation and when can you start work

4 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 56 hours rest(which will be assigned to this week),you have a 24 hour rest on Wednesday and you work till 6pm Tuesday.

Question is, What’s the earliest day and time can you leave to allow the rest to be assigned to this week and how much rest can you take.
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

6 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 24 hours rest(which will be assigned to this week),

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

7 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week),and you maximum duty till Friday.

Question is, How many duty hours will you do if you finish at 6pm Friday

8 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week),you drove for 50 hours last week. you check the truck for 15 minutes at the beginning of the shift and the end of your shift, you do other work for 1 hour per day and you take your required breaks to meet your drive time(no working time breaks required)and 11 hour rests per day. and you can start any time the rest of the week.

Question is, If you used your two ten’s on the first two days What day and at what time would you run out of drive time.

9 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 24 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week), and the following week you took 45 hours rest.

Question is, When is the latest that rest can start, if you wanted to start at 4am Monday.

10 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week), and you have 21 hours compensation from a week ago, you boss asked you to add it to a reduced weekly rest and start work at 4. Monday.

Question is, Can you do that, and what day and time would you have to start the rest to fill the requirements of your bosses request.

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delboytwo:
1 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 4 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest,(which was assigned to last week) you have to make up some compensation from a few weeks ago of 12 hours and this weekend is the week you have to make it up.

Question is, if you finish work at 12 noon on Saturday, when will the earliest time you can start work on Monday.

0000 hours

The 12 hours of payback must be done after the usual rest required and before midnight on sunday

In this case only a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours can be taken with the 12 hours of payback leaving a new 21 hours to be paid back

2 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 36 hours rest (which was assigned to last week) , you have to make up some compensation from a few weeks ago of 12 hours, and this weekend is the week you have to make it up.

Question is, what day and time do you have to finish to fill your rest requirements and the compensation to start work at 4 am Monday

45+12=57 and that has to be completed before sunday midnight so the answer is friday 1500

3 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 56 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week) , you have to make up some compensation from a few weeks ago of 20 hours and this weekend is the week you have to make it up.

Question is, What day and time do you have to finish to fill your rest requirements and the compensation and when can you start work

finish sat 0400 to allow for 24+20 before sunday midnight leaving a new 21 to pay back
Can start mon 0000 hours

4 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 56 hours rest(which will be assigned to this week),you have a 24 hour rest on Wednesday and you work till 6pm Tuesday.

Question is, What’s the earliest day and time can you leave to allow the rest to be assigned to this week and how much rest can you take

Assuming the 24 rest was last weds which had the 56 weekly rest counted for that week and it is now 6pm on the following tuesday then taking a 24 hour rest starting at 6pm on the aforementioned tuesday will suffice

5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

By taking a split daily rest of 3+9

6 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 24 hours rest(which will be assigned to this week),

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

For both at the same time the answer is 5am sunday because the 6x24 comes first
The 45 is not actually required to start until sunday 2359 next week

7 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week),and you maximum duty till Friday.

Question is, How many duty hours will you do if you finish at 6pm Friday

max possible duty hours between mon 5am and fri 6pm = 73 hours using a split daily rest for one of the days

8 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week),you drove for 50 hours last week. you check the truck for 15 minutes at the beginning of the shift and the end of your shift, you do other work for 1 hour per day and you take your required breaks to meet your drive time(no working time breaks required)and 11 hour rests per day. and you can start any time the rest of the week.

Question is, If you used your two ten’s on the first two days What day and at what time would you run out of drive time.

start mon 5am
break 1.5 + ow 1.5 + drive 10 = mon 1800
11 off = tue 0500
break 1.5 + ow 1.5 + drive 10 = tue 1800 (driving time now at 70 hours)
11 off = wed 0500
break 45 mins + ow 1.5 + drive 9 = wed 1615
11 off = thu 0315
break 45 mins + ow 1.5 + drive 9 = thu 1430 (driving time now at 88 hours)
11 off = fri 0130
break 0 + ow 1.5 + drive 2 = fri 0500
ANSWER = Friday 0445 when drive time ran out assuming the ow of 1 hours was done prior to the drive time running out

9 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 24 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week), and the following week you took 45 hours rest.

Question is, When is the latest that rest can start, if you wanted to start at 4am Monday.

to get in a 45 rest when starting at 4am on monday would require the driver stating that rest at 7am on saturday

10 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week), and you have 21 hours compensation from a week ago, you boss asked you to add it to a reduced weekly rest and start work at 4. Monday.

Question is, Can you do that, and what day and time would you have to start the rest to fill the requirements of your bosses request.

24 reduced plus 21 payback when starting at 4am on monday would require the driver to start that at 7am on saturday
This answer editted as I did it for a 5am start and not a 4am start

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Rog

no 1 yes

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Rog no 2
yes well done you did not fall for the start time :wink:

no 3 yes

no 4

day wrong

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no 5 yes

no 6 not right

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delboytwo:
no 6 not right

WHY?
to cover the 6x24 the answer must be correct
please rephrase the question if you mean other

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no 7 yes and a good spot :wink:

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ROG:

delboytwo:
no 6 not right

WHY?
to cover the 6x24 the answer must be correct
please rephrase the question if you mean other

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

there is a thing in the regs about it Rog

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delboytwo:

ROG:

delboytwo:
no 6 not right

WHY?
to cover the 6x24 the answer must be correct
please rephrase the question if you mean other

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

there is a thing in the regs about it Rog

Lost me on that one DEL

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ROG:

delboytwo:

ROG:

delboytwo:
no 6 not right

WHY?
to cover the 6x24 the answer must be correct
please rephrase the question if you mean other

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

there is a thing in the regs about it Rog

Lost me on that one DEL

what do you call the rests if you put one reduced rest with one full rest :wink:

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delboytwo:
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

You can’t. In that scenario there is not enough time for a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours, which would reset the reduced daily rests available to 3, and a split daily rest of 3+9 is not a reduced daily rest so it is impossible to get a 4th reduced daily rest in.

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delboytwo:

ROG:

delboytwo:

ROG:

delboytwo:
no 6 not right

WHY?
to cover the 6x24 the answer must be correct
please rephrase the question if you mean other

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

there is a thing in the regs about it Rog

Lost me on that one DEL

what do you call the rests if you put one reduced rest with one full rest :wink:

You don’t really need back-to-back weekly rest periods in that situation unless you want to be able to go beyond 23:59 the following Sunday before you begin the next weekly rest. You can begin a 45 no later than 05:00 Sunday and you have covered the 144 hours between weekly rests and taken a 45 at the same time, which is what your question wanted. Or, and still legal for the 6x24 and getting a 45 in the correct time frame, you could take a reduced no later than 05:00 Sunday and then begin a full weekly rest 144 hours after that rest ends, or 23:59 the following Sunday, whichever comes first.

If you really want to go beyond 23:59 the following Sunday you could do a 69 hour rest beginning no later than 05:00 Sunday which would give you 144 hours from the end of that rest period before the next was required and if you do start it at 05:00 Sunday it would take you to 02:00 a week on Tuesday before the next weekly rest was due.

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Coffeeholic:

delboytwo:
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

You can’t. In that scenario there is not enough time for a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours, which would reset the reduced daily rests available to 3, and a split daily rest of 3+9 is not a reduced daily rest so it is impossible to get a 4th reduced daily rest in.

Where did the weekly rest issue come from ?

Oh, I have just seen it - its the way the question is worded - I assumed the question was aimed at getting in an extended duty day rather than a 4th reduced daily rest

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ROG:

Coffeeholic:

delboytwo:
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

You can’t. In that scenario there is not enough time for a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours, which would reset the reduced daily rests available to 3, and a split daily rest of 3+9 is not a reduced daily rest so it is impossible to get a 4th reduced daily rest in.

Where did the weekly rest issue come from ?

If you have used all three reduced daily rests you can only do another after taking a weekly rest so that’s where it came from.

ROG:
Oh, I have just seen it - its the way the question is worded - I assumed the question was aimed at getting in an extended duty day rather than a 4th reduced daily rest

Why would you assume that? There is no such thing in the regulations as an ‘extended duty day’, in fact the duty length is never specified in the regs, so I don’t know why you would assume something that isn’t there.

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Coffeeholic:

delboytwo:
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

You can’t. In that scenario there is not enough time for a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours, which would reset the reduced daily rests available to 3, and a split daily rest of 3+9 is not a reduced daily rest so it is impossible to get a 4th reduced daily rest in.

:blush: did not see that very sorry :wink: :blush:

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Coffeeholic:

delboytwo:

ROG:

delboytwo:

ROG:

delboytwo:
no 6 not right

WHY?
to cover the 6x24 the answer must be correct
please rephrase the question if you mean other

Question is, When can you take your next rest to cover the 6x24 rule and your 45 hours at the same time

there is a thing in the regs about it Rog

Lost me on that one DEL

what do you call the rests if you put one reduced rest with one full rest :wink:

You don’t really need back-to-back weekly rest periods in that situation unless you want to be able to go beyond 23:59 the following Sunday before you begin the next weekly rest. You can begin a 45 no later than 05:00 Sunday and you have covered the 144 hours between weekly rests and taken a 45 at the same time, which is what your question wanted. Or, and still legal for the 6x24 and getting a 45 in the correct time frame, you could take a reduced no later than 05:00 Sunday and then begin a full weekly rest 144 hours after that rest ends, or 23:59 the following Sunday, whichever comes first.

If you really want to go beyond 23:59 the following Sunday you could do a 69 hour rest beginning no later than 05:00 Sunday which would give you 144 hours from the end of that rest period before the next was required and if you do start it at 05:00 Sunday it would take you to 02:00 a week on Tuesday before the next weekly rest was due.

I see where your coming from on this one, I was after the back to back rests 69 hours as the answer should of made it more clearer :blush:

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no 8 I await your answer.

no 9 yes

no 10 part right

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Coffeeholic:

ROG:

Coffeeholic:

delboytwo:
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

You can’t. In that scenario there is not enough time for a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours, which would reset the reduced daily rests available to 3, and a split daily rest of 3+9 is not a reduced daily rest so it is impossible to get a 4th reduced daily rest in.

Where did the weekly rest issue come from ?

If you have used all three reduced daily rests you can only do another after taking a weekly rest so that’s where it came from.

ROG:
Oh, I have just seen it - its the way the question is worded - I assumed the question was aimed at getting in an extended duty day rather than a 4th reduced daily rest

Why would you assume that? There is no such thing in the regulations as an ‘extended duty day’, in fact the duty length is never specified in the regs, so I don’t know why you would assume something that isn’t there.

The question referred to DUTY time and it seemed that it was trying to get an answer which got to the maximum duty time possible from mon 5am to fri 6pm with one shift being 13 hours
That was my interpretation of the question which led me to the answer I gave

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ROG:

Coffeeholic:

ROG:

Coffeeholic:

delboytwo:
5 You work for delboys haulage, you are starting a new week at 5 am on Monday after a 45 hours rest(which will be assigned to last week).

Question is, If you work five days from Monday at 5 am and you only do a 13 hours duty day once, the rest are over 13 hours, explain how you could get 4th reduced day in.

You can’t. In that scenario there is not enough time for a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours, which would reset the reduced daily rests available to 3, and a split daily rest of 3+9 is not a reduced daily rest so it is impossible to get a 4th reduced daily rest in.

Where did the weekly rest issue come from ?

If you have used all three reduced daily rests you can only do another after taking a weekly rest so that’s where it came from.

ROG:
Oh, I have just seen it - its the way the question is worded - I assumed the question was aimed at getting in an extended duty day rather than a 4th reduced daily rest

Why would you assume that? There is no such thing in the regulations as an ‘extended duty day’, in fact the duty length is never specified in the regs, so I don’t know why you would assume something that isn’t there.

The question referred to DUTY time and it seemed that it was trying to get an answer which got to the maximum duty time possible from mon 5am to fri 6pm with one shift being 13 hours
That was my interpretation of the question which led me to the answer I gave

Rog I was thinking of a split rest so your answer is right, but I implied it was a reduced rest but as we know it not so you can not have 4 reduced rest, in my scenario, you can have 3 reduced rest and a split rest of 3+9 and therefor the question was not possible to get an answer in the way I required it :blush: :blush:

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I am still lost on Q4