am i correct in saying that if i get points for the speed van i passed at 35 in a 30 in the car yesterday i wont lose my licence? am bit worried here
passed b 10 years ago
got 3 points for using handheld device april 2011
passed c 2 months ago
dont know if i been caught but would be another 3 points taking me to 6 does this new drivers act affect me meaning i lose my licence? 
dodester:
am i correct in saying that if i get points for the speed van i passed at 35 in a 30 in the car yesterday i wont lose my licence? am bit worried herepassed b 10 years ago
got 3 points for using handheld device april 2011passed c 2 months ago
dont know if i been caught but would be another 3 points taking me to 6 does this new drivers act affect me meaning i lose my licence?
You certainly are correct so relax you wonât lose your license 
7.33 Under the New Drivers Act,[73] a driver who reaches 6 penalty points within two years of passing their first driving test must have his licence revoked and take all the parts of the driving test again to recover a full licence. There are some 16,000 revocations annually under the Act. We estimate that some 50 per cent of the drivers concerned re-pass the test relatively soon. But as many as 30 per cent appear not to return to the licensing system. An analysis of recent cases suggests that âdriving without insuranceâ dominates the offences for which licences are revoked under the Act. This offence is subject to 6 to 8 point penalties â so a new driverâs licence can be revoked for just one offence.
Let me get this out of the way to save other people bothering:
You shouldnât be doing 35 in a 30 mph limit 
Call yourself a professional driver
Youâre a disgrace to the profession
Donât you care about losing your license
They should take your bloody license off you for life
I bet you do 40 on single carriageways then speed up to 56 on dual carriageway
I bet you even wear your high-viz in the cab while youâre speeding past the schools and old folks homes
Buy a blue-tooth you cheep-skate
Think of the children (we have to include that one 
)
Have a good day
You forgot to mention the bunny rabbits 
tachograph:
dodester:
am i correct in saying that if i get points for the speed van i passed at 35 in a 30 in the car yesterday i wont lose my licence? am bit worried herepassed b 10 years ago
got 3 points for using handheld device april 2011passed c 2 months ago
dont know if i been caught but would be another 3 points taking me to 6 does this new drivers act affect me meaning i lose my licence?You certainly are correct so relax you wonât lose your license
7.33 Under the New Drivers Act,[73] a driver who reaches 6 penalty points within two years of passing their first driving test must have his licence revoked and take all the parts of the driving test again to recover a full licence. There are some 16,000 revocations annually under the Act. We estimate that some 50 per cent of the drivers concerned re-pass the test relatively soon. But as many as 30 per cent appear not to return to the licensing system. An analysis of recent cases suggests that âdriving without insuranceâ dominates the offences for which licences are revoked under the Act. This offence is subject to 6 to 8 point penalties â so a new driverâs licence can be revoked for just one offence.
Let me get this out of the way to save other people bothering:
You shouldnât be doing 35 in a 30 mph limit
Call yourself a professional driver
Youâre a disgrace to the profession
Donât you care about losing your license
They should take your bloody license off you for life
I bet you do 40 on single carriageways then speed up to 56 on dual carriageway
I bet you even wear your high-viz in the cab while youâre speeding past the schools and old folks homes
Buy a blue-tooth you cheep-skate
Think of the children
Have a good day
cheers tacho and by the way it was in ma car and it was a 40 to a 30 and the scammera van was inside the 30 bit by about 50 yards 
forgot to say i got a handsfree!! was done for using handheld device sorry putting my finger on my tomtom as i went past the unmarked car at a t junction!! ÂŁ60 fine and 3 points and they had it clearly on video
Denis F:
NikNik:
Who better to get your information to than from the Traffic Police, afterall they enforce it.
Some of them enforce it but donât actually know whatâs in it - over the years they have come on here, been proved wrong and stormed off in a huff
I wanted to say that. I have been a member on a police forum and some of them do not know their arse from their elbow and the arguments are almost as good as on this forum
ROG:
You forgot to mention the bunny rabbits
I didnât think anyone would give dodester any grief over rabbits so there was no need to get it out of the way
Seems I was wrong
Here is an interesting police website
I first read into this a while ago as I was worried it may apply to me again if I passed my HGVâs
Anyway I rang the DVLA and they explained that it wouldnât apply to me as it was not my first test I had passed, it only applies to car drivers. With this I felt reassured.
Anyway a few months later I was talking to someone who said the Act applies to me as itâs your first test pass in a HGV etc.
I havenât got a clue who to believe!!
Now Iâve found this from the DFT (Department of Transport),
dft.gov.uk/consultations/ope ⌠ml?page=24
It states âFirst- Drivingâ test, its the first HGV driving test but it isnât the first test I have ever done.
Can someone please put this straight once and for all.
Thanks
The Road Traffic (New Drivers) Act 1995 c13. is what it refers to in itâs text which is for CAR drivers NOT LGV drivers unless they are within the first 2 years of passing their car test.
Example -
Car test passed at age 20 and LGV test passed at age 21 - driver gets 6 points whilst driving LGV before age 22 so itâs still within the first 2 years of the car test pass - resit car test required (not sure about the LGV one in this instance - that will probably be down to the Traffic Commissioner).
Points gained whilst driving LGV or CAR all go against the basic (car) licence not the LGV licence but you cannot drive LGVs without having the car licence
Your first test could of course be bike not car in which case holding that for 2 years would still cover you
ROG:
(not sure about the LGV one in this instance - that will probably be down to the Traffic Commissioner).
As there are no longer seperate licences for car and truck Iâd say the LGV test would also have to be re-took as the licence has been revoked and youâre back to learner status.
mrpj:
ROG:
(not sure about the LGV one in this instance - that will probably be down to the Traffic Commissioner).As there are no longer seperate licences for car and truck Iâd say the LGV test would also have to be re-took as the licence has been revoked and youâre back to learner status.
I wonder about that as there are a lot of times when a car retest is ordered by a judge but if the person had an upgrade then that automatically got re-instated when the B test was passed unless the TC objected.
One for the legal bods me thinksâŚ
Thatâs brilliant, thanks for clearing that one up.
I was more inclined to believe the DVLA and others as they enforce the rules, I got into a debate with an examiner and instructor from another company about this. They both said it applies but I thought it wouldnât be right and fair as were already passed our probabtion (those that are young enough to go through the new rules ), but also because everyone is an experienced catergory âBâ driver otherwise you would have passed the HGV test.
I never knew that we were allowed to go on motorways whilst learning in a HGV, but I was told by my instructor that youâve got a car licence therefore your compitent enough to go on it.
I went on the motorway on my test.
statutelaw.gov.uk/legResults ⌠ortAlpha=0
Could someone have a read through the act as although I think we are right, we could also be interpreting the law wrongly.
Iâm no good at reading law so Iâll pass.
I get my info from the Traffic Police who are well versed in Traffic law.
Who better to get your information to than from the Traffic Police, afterall they enforce it .
I done A-level law a few years ago and although Iâm no expert in reading the law, the act was wide open to interpritation which give me doubts but if the traffic police and dvla are saying it doesnât apply then we were right.
NikNik:
Who better to get your information to than from the Traffic Police, afterall they enforce itI done A-level law a few years ago and although Iâm no expert in reading the law, the act was wide open to interpritation which give me doubts but if the traffic police and dvla are saying it doesnât apply then we were right.
DVLA should know that all points on a licence are for the initial car/bike one as no-one can get points put specifically on the upgrade bit.
The initial car/bike licence start date is always the start point for the 2 year 6 point test retake rule.
If you call the DVLA on the LGV age question then make sure you ask about Pre 10 Sept 2009 and post 10 Sept 2009
Yeh Iâll give them ring tommorow. I forgot to mention that the instructor stated that it wouldnât affect your car licence but would affect your HGV catergories for the first two years. Apparently he has âheardâ about someone that lost them and had to do everything again.
This is interesting.
One person at the DVLA told me that if you lose your licences for whatever reason and have an upgrade of any sort on it then, if you have to do a retest, you can do it on the basic car bit OR on the upgrade bit 
I am going to try and get a second opinion on this but it is interesting.
A C+E driver who is told to take a basic car retest can do it in an artic - fun
Hmmm⌠Iâm dubious about this info - unless any of you folks know something 
- Re-testing.â (1) Subject to subsection (5) and section 5, the Secretary of State may not under Part III of the M1 Road Traffic Act 1988 grant a person whose licence has been revoked under section 3(1) a full licence to drive any class of vehicles in relation to which the revoked licence was issued as a full licence unless he satisfies the Secretary of State that within the relevant period he has passed a relevant driving test.
(2) In this section ârelevant driving testâ means, in relation to a person whose licence has been revoked, any test whichâ
(a)falls within paragraph (a) or (b) of section 1(2); and
(b)is a test of competence to drive any vehicle included in any class of vehicles in relation to which the revoked licence was issued as a full licence.
What this says basically you can retake your test in any catergary you held at the time of disqualification, it goes on to say you canât regain your license by taking test in a catergory you didnât hold.
ie if you held A, B & C cats you can retake any of those but you canât do C+E to regain your license.
It seems to implie that you regain full entitlement for all cats whichever test you take but I havenât read the full act.