Vietnam was an injurious defeat because it was fought with the wrong tactics, in the wrong place on the ground, on the Communists’ terms.Basically the US and the free world ran scared of China.
Taiwan and a simultaneous Korean diversion will probably be the sequel.Philippines and Australia next.
What was the supposed ‘situation’ other than an aggressive invasion of the free south by Chinese backed Communist forces.Just like Korea.Curtis Le May rightly told his bosses that it needed a strategic air power solution not conscript boots on the ground.China then squealed like a stuck pig over the limited Linebacker operation.The rest is history.
Drivel indeed.
As we seem to have got onto the Vietnam war perhaps some mention should be made of the Marshall Tucker Band, 4 of whose members served in the US Military with two at least, Toy Caldwell & Doug Gray serving in Vietnam.
I agree with you again, in fact my position has always been that wars generally are immoral unless in defence of country or alliance. Vietnam was a colonial war and, as my opinion is that empires and the colonial wars to create them and maintain them are immoral too, I was against first French and then American intervention there. Australia was dragged in by a mistaken worry about American future defence. Harold Wilson commendably kept Britain out just as Jacque Chirac kept France out of Iraq.
Back to the music. 
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Always brings a lump to my throat.
If we’re combining the Vietnam war with music tracks, it’s 40 years since Paul Hardcastle mixed this.
This is the extended full length mix.
If you aint keen on the track,.theres some good pics in the vid.
Or if you prefer the version that was released as a single…
He released it after watching a TV documentary, and layed down a track sampling some of it.
Even if you dont like the style or genre of music, I still think it was clever, and it started a trend.
Edit…Ffs !..The version that everybody and their Dad has already seen a million times …I see is restricted.
How ridiculous.
There you go Rob.The proper one.
You beat me to 19, ironically the sound track of Summer 1985 UK.
Bearing in mind the average age of USAF crews was well over 19 and the majority not conscripts and we’ll never know the result of if LBJ and Nixon had just made it a straight fight between the USAF v Hanoi and the round the clock unrestricted bombing of Hanoi back to the stone age and see which one and which side cracked first.
The fight against Communism was/is always about our freedom and defence of others against Communist aggression.I would have refused the draft not because the cause wasn’t just but because a fleet of loaded B52’s given free reign, could do a lot more damage to Ho Chi Mihn’s Chinese backed Communist rabble, in its own back yard, by taking out Hanoi, than an M16 or FN rifle against a never ending hidden force in the Vietnam jungle.
^^^^Yeah ok , but I still fancy Kim Wilde. 
Definitely more than Dianna Ross even with the drumming machines.
I went to see The Bob Dylan Film “A Complete Unknown” today: Brilliant, if you even half like just one of his songs then go and see it you won’t be disappointed in Timothee Chalamet’s performance of the songs, and the rest of the cast can sing too.
Never been a fan of Dylan, but I do like this track.
Mainly because it reminds me of a bloody good night out in Bognor Regis, before I was a driver, and away with my driver mate…around 78?
We were in this pub on the front playing pool all night with these American students, and this was almost on a loop on the juke box put on by one of them.
The W. Sussex pool champion was in and my mate beat him, which did not go down too well.
We were in a TK Bedford, mate sleeping in cab, me under sheet.
…a couple of the Yank lads with their girlfriends put us up for the night in their flat…after a bloody good late party.
I very rarely go to the Cinema but would like to catch that while its on.
Less up to date I watched Walk the Line yesterday as it was on iPlayer, which I thought was good.
The Animals We gotta get out o this place was the first bass line I learned on bass guitar.
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In the late '70s~mid '80s we thought it must have been the Vietnamese national anthem, so many were turning up on our shores in busted arse, leaky boats, claiming asylum.
Not long before half of them had been shooting at us. 
i want to go and see that just refuse to go to the shambles of a cinema in town. waiting for my friend to go see it with.
The first comment and the remarks following it are spot on regarding the audience reaction to the scene with this in the film:
Speaking of pop/rock star related films…
I’ve seen the Queen one which I enjoyed, but not seen the Elton John one.
There is one about Robbie Williams who is played by a computer generated (you can tell I’m a tech expert eh…not.) monkey ffs…what’s all that about?
Anyway it seems to be a new trend, there is talk of a Rod Stewart movie…(line up the fit blondes 
), and a Status Quo one.
I’m.waiting for the ‘Black Lace’ epic to come out.