UKtramp:
Rowley010:
Wind up?Why would a concrete class 1 driver be doing 50 drops in a van?
because it is better on diesel and much easier to park up.
Well at least I’ve no tacho rules , no limiter , but 50 I think that’s a bit cruel , I can see by 11 am van dumped on hard shoulder and me marching home 
Get your trainers out,put a baseball cap on back to front, at least look the part,take sandwiches and a drink with you won`t have time to stop at a cafe.
Thanks all , didn’t get in the end , just a load to Bradford , then wakfield to dart ford ( think he could tell I wasn’t keen ( too right ) , asked him about it as I didn’t know they had vans / rigids , said it’s something they want to get more into 
, now sat outside a builders merchants thinking thank Christ 
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courier
Class 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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dozy:
have they any advice for me . Ta
Yeh…
Work for someone else.
Go sick
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IronEddie:
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courierClass 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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My Class 1s drive a van, get told at the interview it happens if the bendys are quiet and the vans are busy. Sometimes it can be two drops in a day, or even one a week if it’s far enough away.
Wonder if he’s done his second drop yet
IronEddie:
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courierClass 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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It does if it’s Stobarts hourly rate - £8.40 isn’t it?
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IronEddie:
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courierClass 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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I’d be quite happy to drive a van, just not the 50+drops parcel slinging side of it.
Roymondo:
IronEddie:
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courierClass 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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It does if it’s Stobarts hourly rate - £8.40 isn’t it?
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No it isn’t £8.40, it is in line with most and worse than some but better than a lot.
dozy:
UKtramp:
Rowley010:
Wind up?Why would a concrete class 1 driver be doing 50 drops in a van?
because it is better on diesel and much easier to park up.
Well at least I’ve no tacho rules , no limiter , but 50 I think that’s a bit cruel , I can see by 11 am van dumped on hard shoulder and me marching home
Now that is funny.
From the bloke that can’t tell them where to shove a job after allegedly being told he would be home on a Friday to find someone else eating his steak at home and then giving his missus one.
UKtramp:
Roymondo:
IronEddie:
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courierClass 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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It does if it’s Stobarts hourly rate - £8.40 isn’t it?
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No it isn’t £8.40, it is in line with most and worse than some but better than a lot.
You must be adding your lunch money and night money to make it look like your on a decent hourly rate dozy 2
Nice to see Stobarts have moved on from the race to the bottom in HGVs anyway. Are they out to decimate and ruin same day courier work now, more self employed hard working drivers facing ruin.
Dozy must have a few penny’s tucked away, these franchises start from over 35K, and you don’t even appear to get a vehicle, just the brand. They must be doing some serious loss leading rates to guarantee a return on a 35K investment for anyone who goes for it, they make some very bold claims regarding money to be made on the website.
Another industry undermined…
Norfolkinclue1:
Another industry undermined…
You’d have to dig bloody deep to undermine the next day parcels industry. It’s been a race to the bottom for over a generation.
Sidevalve:
Norfolkinclue1:
Another industry undermined…You’d have to dig bloody deep to undermine the next day parcels industry. It’s been a race to the bottom for over a generation.
Not next day, same day. Big difference. That’s what puzzles me about dozy’s photo, it’s a same day delivery van from the sign writing but it sounds like a next day parcel delivery workload?
Same day is a very different thing, much harder work, more reactive and bespoke and only earns good money through commitment and hard work eventually gaining a reputation. I ran my own small company and it was all consuming but great at the same time. You never knew what each day would bring. Except Fridays, Fridays were carnage, especially for the print contracts.
Next day is awful, massive work loads covering the same area daily with little reward for such a huge drop rate.
End of the day it’s stobarts, therefore it will be undercut at a loss until the competition disappears and then replaced with low wage exploitation.
Norfolkinclue1:
That’s what puzzles me about dozy’s photo, it’s a same day delivery van from the sign writing but it sounds like a next day parcel delivery workload?
That’s what threw me too, didn’t take much notice of the pic just read the blurb. 50 drops is moderate for a parcels van these days as you know yourself, unless it’s a rural run.
UKtramp:
Roymondo:
IronEddie:
rob22888:
Grow a pair and tell them you took employment as a HGV driver, not a bloody parcel courierClass 1 pay for driving a van doesn’t sound so bad.
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It does if it’s Stobarts hourly rate - £8.40 isn’t it?
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No it isn’t £8.40, it is in line with most and worse than some but better than a lot.
Nope not £8.40, £8.68…m.imgur.com/f0M6ywb. 
King of the road…
Norfolkinclue1:
Nope not £8.40, £8.68…m.imgur.com/f0M6ywb.King of the road…
55hrs £477 gross…ffs Its not only Stobarts paying this pittance though. Its no wonder so few new drivers around…
AndrewG:
Norfolkinclue1:
Nope not £8.40, £8.68…m.imgur.com/f0M6ywb.King of the road…
55hrs £477 gross…ffs
You read all that about the meal allowances and realise why HMRC tried to come down so hard on night out payments. It may be legal but I’m not sure about the ethics of it.