Marky-p:
I wouldn’t trust the washington post as far as I could throw them. Same for the New York Times etc.
Who does supply your USA info then?
Alex Jones? Russia Today?
Marky-p:
Not the courts of an extremist regime? Biden has weaponised the IRS, DOJ, the FBI and god knows what other institutions against Trump. And now Biden is trying to pin something on Elon Musk because Musk doesn’t tow the party line. It’s pretty much an extremist regime if you ask me.
If Biden is “extremist” in your view, then I get an impression of your judgment.
In 2 terms Obama appointed 320 Federal judges including 55 Appeal judges.
In 1 term Trump appointed 226 Federal judges including 54 Appeal judges.
Who looks like they were “weaponising” the judiciary?
Definitely not crazy Alex Jones. Although he has been right on a number of things i.e exposing Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes 10 years before his death.
Obama: Caught spying on Trump’s 2015 campaign. Also weaponised the IRS to target conservatives specifically.
Biden: Getting the IRS to do a speculative investigation on Trump’s taxes, the DOJ to basically do the same in other areas, the FBI to raid his house even after Trump had been co-operating with the National Archives re so-called ‘classified documents’. Where was the FBI when Biden did the same or when Hillary bleached 30,000 emails whilst running for President? If the Demo-rats think they can beat Trump in the election then why do they keep getting in his way?
The double standard is insane. When it comes to going after your political opponents to try to destroy them, Obama, Biden and the Demo-rats have got this down to a tee.
Trump has taken a leaf from the playbook of Ali G. “Is it cos I is black”
All of Trumps woes are because he is a politician (whilst he says he isn`t a politician) and he is otherwise an angel.
I wouldn’t say he’s an angel, far from it. The man sure has some flaws. But can you blame him? All these woes have happened since he declared war on the deep state swamp. Zilch happened when he was running his businesses before running for office.
Marky-p:
I wouldn’t say he’s an angel, far from it. The man sure has some flaws. But can you blame him? All these woes have happened since he declared war on the deep state swamp. Zilch happened when he was running his businesses before running for office.
Really? I guess reading other peoples posts dont occupy much of your time?
Racial Discrimination re Housing Act 1973. Agreed to a settlement in 1975. Which he didn`t follow up on so was again arraigned.
Attempted forced evictions 1985
Violating Trust law re share dealing 1988
Lobbying violations 2000
Filing two very different estimates of values for property depending on for loans or tax etc NY 2015
Illegal drainage systems damaging buildings
Trump “University” $40 m 2010
Numerous cases in casinos involving race, mobsters, tax, chips, etc.
And every time he loses, he says he has won.
Just like he had the biggest crowds ever at an inauguration!
Marky-p:
I wouldn’t say he’s an angel, far from it. The man sure has some flaws. But can you blame him? All these woes have happened since he declared war on the deep state swamp. Zilch happened when he was running his businesses before running for office.
Really? I guess reading other peoples posts dont occupy much of your time?
Racial Discrimination re Housing Act 1973. Agreed to a settlement in 1975. Which he didn`t follow up on so was again arraigned.
Attempted forced evictions 1985
Violating Trust law re share dealing 1988
Lobbying violations 2000
Filing two very different estimates of values for property depending on for loans or tax etc NY 2015
Illegal drainage systems damaging buildings
Trump “University” $40 m 2010
Numerous cases in casinos involving race, mobsters, tax, chips, etc.
And every time he loses, he says he has won.
Just like he had the biggest crowds ever at an inauguration!
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that all of the above cases are true, in which case yes of course Trump should have been dealt with appropriately by the law, obviously.
But what I’m referring to is deliberate targeting by a government administration (Obama/Biden) which did not happen to Trump way before he was in office. It is political persecution and beyond. And all those things you mention above about Trump are mere drops in the ocean compared to what Obama and Biden have done…and yet they will not be held accountable for their atrocities and treason.
I keep saying it… It’s all about what rather than “Who” you believe in.
Trump has given the Establishment so much trouble since 2016 that he deserves to get re-elected all the more - so we can see the damned establishment world-wide hurt some more for what they’ve done to us, the free world public among ALL western nations.
What we gonna get if it isn’t Trump otherwise?
More foreign US-led wars against the wrong enemy costing us lives and material we cannot afford to lose…
To enrich deep state allies the world over.
Not a theory, I’m talking about “History to date” here.
We either want real change in our politics - or we are “happy as we are”.
If the latter is the case, then why do people think that voting the Tories out by voting Labour - will make the slightest bit of different to US, the Public?
Maybe your taxes will be switched from One distant minority interest group you’ll never meet - to another. You still won’t benefit from that future “mainstream” government.
The Americans have got someone to vote for, someone to believe can cause further hassle to the establishment, and someone who’s already proven to have broken new ground (for a politician) when it comes to getting things done that save as well as enrich lives…
OR you can just have another murdering industrial-military complex scumbag in the Whitehouse who’ll make the lives of anyone with less than a million in the bank - an ongoing misery.
Marky-p:
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt
Very generous of you I`m sure. ~
Marky-p:
yet they will not be held accountable for their atrocities and treason.
Obama was treasonous? Committed atrocities?
So Trump was negligent in not pursuing these.
I know the pantomime season is here, but I really think we have enough Drama Queens and Swooning Dames posting here already.
If you want to taken seriously try dropping the hyperbole and introducing some specific allegations.
Marky-p:
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt
Very generous of you I`m sure. ~
Marky-p:
yet they will not be held accountable for their atrocities and treason.
Obama was treasonous? Committed atrocities?
So Trump was negligent in not pursuing these.
I know the pantomime season is here, but I really think we have enough Drama Queens and Swooning Dames posting here already.
If you want to taken seriously try dropping the hyperbole and introducing some specific allegations.
Voting is supposed to be about “Hope for the Future” not dwelling on “who lied last time”, most the lies in fact designed to hurt the incumbent rather than help the challenger.
Even if Trump wins next year - he’s going to be an assassin’s target every single day from those he’s disenfranchised, regardless of “whom he forgives” in the meantime.
Indeed, Trump is comparing very much to the late Julius Caesar, and may well end up the same way…
Can you imagine what 80million Gun Nuts will do if you bring down their focus on hope, and leave them with “none”?
I’ve read “If Trump wins, California will seceed, if Trump loses Texas will seceed”
That’s over-simplyfying it, thinking that “change stops - if Trump is gone”.
No. I reckon Trump’s demise will accelerate change - and for the worst at that.
Can you imagine what the worlds other nuclear powers will do IF America descends into Anarchy following any would-be demise of Trump?
Personally, I reckon we’re talking a “France 1789” scenario, with a similar quick-fire aftermath:
A Left-Wing Roebespierre style “Reign of Terror”, followed by a Right Wing military dictator comparable to Boneparte…
Marky-p:
I wouldn’t say he’s an angel, far from it. The man sure has some flaws. But can you blame him? All these woes have happened since he declared war on the deep state swamp. Zilch happened when he was running his businesses before running for office.
Really? I guess reading other peoples posts dont occupy much of your time?
Racial Discrimination re Housing Act 1973. Agreed to a settlement in 1975. Which he didn`t follow up on so was again arraigned.
Attempted forced evictions 1985
Violating Trust law re share dealing 1988
Lobbying violations 2000
Filing two very different estimates of values for property depending on for loans or tax etc NY 2015
Illegal drainage systems damaging buildings
Trump “University” $40 m 2010
Numerous cases in casinos involving race, mobsters, tax, chips, etc.
And every time he loses, he says he has won.
Just like he had the biggest crowds ever at an inauguration!
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that all of the above cases are true, in which case yes of course Trump should have been dealt with appropriately by the law, obviously.
But what I’m referring to is deliberate targeting by a government administration (Obama/Biden) which did not happen to Trump way before he was in office. It is political persecution and beyond. And all those things you mention above about Trump are mere drops in the ocean compared to what Obama and Biden have done…and yet they will not be held accountable for their atrocities and treason.
If it’s political persecution and there’s no evidence of his guilt he will be found innocent in court. Hes paying his lawyers millions - they will demolish a fake case in 20 minutes. Why are you worried if he’s innocent?I
Your only argument ever is *what about someone else". Trump is on tape saying these documents are classified - tell me how on earth that is “weaponised justice”. Explain how he can be innocent.
“You show me the perp and I’ll show you the crime”.
It is easy to make-up charges against anyone to get rid of them…
This is what is meant by “Weaponized Justice System”.
It isn’t only the “nobodies” who languish in jail as political prisoners.
Anyone who is a threat to the establishment - is traditionally locked up on trumped-up charges, and left to rot there.
There have been very few occasions in history when “innocent victims of political weaponized justice” get busted out of jail en-masse, such as the Storming of the Bastille, 1789 (for example)
American jails already have hundreds of so-called “January 6th Insurrectionists” that have full proof they are innocent in the public domain - yet they still languish in jail…
That’s the very acme of “Corrupt holding of political prisoners, the last gasp of a dying regime”.
They wouldn’t be doing this to Trump and the 80million+ so-called “Maga Republican Supporters” if Trump were not standing…
They fear a righteous igdignation crack-down should Trump get back into office, and start persecuting the GUILTY and “abusers of power” rather than ordinary members of the public that happened to vote “Not for a Deep State Approved Candidate”.
In the last few days, Ex-New York Mayor Rudi Giuliani has been found guilty of “libelling” two paid and corrupt election workers, despite the burden of proof in ALL libel cases being upon the Plaintiff to PROVE they were Libelled.
There’s only the plaintiff’s say-so that this was the case - this is not “evidence”.
The Defendent was not allowed to defend himself, despite him being a lawyer, and he was not allowed to present evidence in his defence - which violates his first ammendment rights.
“Hearsay” evidince then - now opens the floodgates to disenfranchise ANYONE on merely the say-so of any random person in the pay of Deep-State cash.
No due process was followed AT ALL then.
Why should New Yorks most popular mayor in history - be treated this way?
Because those Right of Karl Marx are afraid to speak out, lest THEY get bullied and threatened in the same kind of way - THAT’s why.
The Moral Majority have been too quiet for too long, and the MAGA movement has finally given them a focus, rather than “just go quietly into the night” as they have done in the past, when the vile champagne socialist leftie lawyers run roughshod over every statute law in the book - to get their own way.
And THEN what?
What do the Champagne Socialist VOTERS get when this is all over, assuming the elites DID get their own way?
Nothing.
Nada.
Gar Nichts. “Sorry, the Right spent all the money, we cannot (nor did we ever intend to) keep our promises.”
Keep voting for us though - or the Nasty Right WIngers get back in, and your boss will be able to sack you with impunity for nicking his stuff once more, rather than you being able to sue them for millions for falsly claiming he raped you/wrecked your car/hurt your feelings/sacked you unfairly for being a “Criminal” when criminals if Lefty world - have more rights than God-Fearing Taxpayers - every time.
If “Injustice” reaches critical mass - there will be revolution.
There will be no “coming together” between polar opposites, ongoingly.
The only ones yet to choose “which way to jump” are the undecided, so-called “Independent” voter base - Liberals and Greens.
You didn’t really think the Far Left OR Far Right give a ■■■■ about “Green Issues” - did you?
Both happen to use the banner as a means of getting a few extra votes - that’s it.
Bigger fool you - if you brought a Diesel a decade back, thinking this was “better, because it can be run on half-and-half”.
Likewise, you won’t get any help when you try to dispose of the white elephant EVcar by the end of this decade neither.
Indeed, I’d be surprised if any last that long…
Perhaps one day “Science” will stop looking to “crush the petrochemical industry” and instead do some solid research into alternative ways to USING electricity rather than “trying to generate it” without burning anything…
Winseer:
“You show me the perp and I’ll show you the crime”.
It is easy to make-up charges against anyone to get rid of them…
This is what is meant by “Weaponized Justice System”.
It’s easy to make a successful fake legal case against a billionaire who can pay expensive lawyers millions and millions? No it isn’t - it’s practically impossible. Can you name one? I can’t think of a single case. Expensive lawyers are pretty clever - you can’t just make something up and say it’s true - you need evidence. And if you tried pulliing a stunt like that you would be paying millions and millions in compo. It simply doesn’t ever happen. To prosecute a billionaire you need rock solid evidence - which they have in the Trump cases. He’s as guilty as sin - that’s 100% certain.
I mean - how can it be weaponised if he’s on tape admitting it?
And how can Trump be bothering the establishment? He’s a billionaire, he fiddles his tax so he pays less tax than me, he gave billionaires a massive tax cut - the establishment loves him. Unless you think the establishment consists of poor people rather than billionaires.
Winseer:
If “Injustice” reaches critical mass - there will be revolution.
There will be no “coming together” between polar opposites, ongoingly.
The only ones yet to choose “which way to jump” are the undecided, so-called “Independent” voter base - Liberals and Greens.
You didn’t really think the Far Left OR Far Right give a ■■■■ about “Green Issues” - did you?
Both happen to use the banner as a means of getting a few extra votes - that’s it.
Bigger fool you - if you brought a Diesel a decade back, thinking this was “better, because it can be run on half-and-half”.
Likewise, you won’t get any help when you try to dispose of the white elephant EVcar by the end of this decade neither.
Indeed, I’d be surprised if any last that long…
Perhaps one day “Science” will stop looking to “crush the petrochemical industry” and instead do some solid research into alternative ways to USING electricity rather than “trying to generate it” without burning anything…
The world hasn’t done anything green yet has it? We’re burning more fossil fuels this year than ever. Where is this green stuff supposed to be happening?
Winseer:
“You show me the perp and I’ll show you the crime”.
It is easy to make-up charges against anyone to get rid of them…
This is what is meant by “Weaponized Justice System”.
It’s easy to make a successful fake legal case against a billionaire who can pay expensive lawyers millions and millions? No it isn’t - it’s practically impossible. Can you name one? I can’t think of a single case. Expensive lawyers are pretty clever - you can’t just make something up and say it’s true - you need evidence. And if you tried pulliing a stunt like that you would be paying millions and millions in compo. It simply doesn’t ever happen. To prosecute a billionaire you need rock solid evidence - which they have in the Trump cases. He’s as guilty as sin - that’s 100% certain.
I mean - how can it be weaponised if he’s on tape admitting it?
And how can Trump be bothering the establishment? He’s a billionaire, he fiddles his tax so he pays less tax than me, he gave billionaires a massive tax cut - the establishment loves him. Unless you think the establishment consists of poor people rather than billionaires.
Yes, it is easy to make a case.
If nothing else, even if Trump succeeds in getteing it tossed - it will have cost Trump a fortune in legal fees to DO that. In other words, it weakens him win or lose.
Compare that to Governments trying to bring cases against people on Legal Aid where they have Lefty Lawyers having their back indefinitely, “Free at the point of sale” if need be, or rather costing the public ■■■■■ unlimited amounts as our boatloads of illegals constantly coming here do…
There shouldn’t be such a thing as a “Lefty” lawyer. If we had a “Right Wing” legal system - it would be accused of being a police state after all, and such things are not deemed “Socially Acceptable” - are they?
Why then do we have to put up with the constant legal challenges to the enforcement of actual laws already on our statute books?
Trump hasn’t done anything that any other politician has ever been done for.
To make an “Exception” in law for him, by bending the rules - demonstrates how powerful and corrupt the Left-wing judicary/media/agencies and of course Deep State have become.
Abraham Lincoln was also a divisive figure in his own lifetime, “hated by millions” especially the political class and wealthy landowners - and not just those in the “South” either!
That Trump has stood up against THAT kind of headwind for as long as he has - demands respect. He is an “Amateur” politician after all.
I’ve yet to hear of reasons why the Lefty Voter hates the man so much…
What do you get if they succeed in getting rid of him? Nothing.
What do you lose if Trump gets back in again? - NOTHING!
Winseer:
If “Injustice” reaches critical mass - there will be revolution.
There will be no “coming together” between polar opposites, ongoingly.
The only ones yet to choose “which way to jump” are the undecided, so-called “Independent” voter base - Liberals and Greens.
You didn’t really think the Far Left OR Far Right give a ■■■■ about “Green Issues” - did you?
Both happen to use the banner as a means of getting a few extra votes - that’s it.
Bigger fool you - if you brought a Diesel a decade back, thinking this was “better, because it can be run on half-and-half”.
Likewise, you won’t get any help when you try to dispose of the white elephant EVcar by the end of this decade neither.
Indeed, I’d be surprised if any last that long…
Perhaps one day “Science” will stop looking to “crush the petrochemical industry” and instead do some solid research into alternative ways to USING electricity rather than “trying to generate it” without burning anything…
The world hasn’t done anything green yet has it? We’re burning more fossil fuels this year than ever. Where is this green stuff supposed to be happening?
The green rollout already happening is “Making you short of cash” in the name of things like 2030 and 2050…
Better THAT on the politician’s behalf than just saying “You could have voted for a minor party - but we decided to lie to you about how poor our needless policy rollouts will make you - and of course lie about how much good voting for a NEW party would make you, even if they don’t win a full majority…”
Labour say “Vote for us and we’ll replace the Tories”
Once they have a large block of MPs (a century since…) “We cannot get any of our promises done - until we actually have a full majority and are in power”.
Once IN power:
"We cannot get any of our promises done - because the last outgoing administration have left us unable to do it".
A new politician though?
Gets elected
Gets things done, even as a backbencher
Pays for their own security detail, thus saving the taxpayer ■■■■■ AND blocking internal assassination attempts.
If you are a “Wayward Politician” (Eg. Serve the Public trust rather than the Deep State ■■■■■) - then you can expect to be got rid of by the actions of the Media, the Agencies, and if that fails - an “Asset”.
Attempts will be made to “Blame some Far Right outfit”, and should THAT “Blame” fail - the killings roll off the news cycle within hours… For example, what’s just happened in the Czech Republic…
I’m genuinely curious to know who the lefties on here believe who will be the next U.S president, who they WANT to be the president and the reasons why. Perhaps they don’t care as long as it’s not Trump (which is a lazy answer really).
I’m presuming their picks would most likely be either a 2nd Biden term, Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama or Bernie Sanders. I may be completely wrong however!
I’m genuinely curious to know who the lefties on here believe who will be the next U.S president, who they WANT to be the president and the reasons why. Perhaps they don’t care as long as it’s not Trump (which is a lazy answer really).
I’m presuming their picks would most likely be either a 2nd Biden term, Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama or Bernie Sanders. I may be completely wrong however!
JeffA and Franglais who are your top picks?
Marky-p:
the lefties on here
Marky-p:
which is a lazy
terminology.
For myself I will make no predictions at all.
The US system was well designed for it`s day, but seems a tad outdated now. Somewhat like the UK system.
However, dealing with what we have, I would like to see Biden step down as a republican Pres candidate and someone younger take his place.
Not about to happen though.
And I would like Trump to step aside too
Even less likely to happen.
So, it looks like another (as the chants go) 4 more years of (to be polite) a sub-optimal situation.
Marky-p:
We all know that Putin has got his seat locked in for as long as he wants it, probably for another 20 years at least. Not that I favour dictatorships.
As for Trump, as much as I’d like him to win, I know that he could easily lose again.
Given his attitude to winning, and more importantly to losing, I really hope that Trump isn`t the Republican candidate.
Even if he were to stand, and win legitimately, I wonder what his attitude would be to not being allowed a 3rd term?