Make Jail Great Again!

JeffA:

Winseer:
“You show me the perp and I’ll show you the crime”.

It is easy to make-up charges against anyone to get rid of them…
This is what is meant by “Weaponized Justice System”.

It’s easy to make a successful fake legal case against a billionaire who can pay expensive lawyers millions and millions? No it isn’t - it’s practically impossible. Can you name one? I can’t think of a single case. Expensive lawyers are pretty clever - you can’t just make something up and say it’s true - you need evidence. And if you tried pulliing a stunt like that you would be paying millions and millions in compo. It simply doesn’t ever happen. To prosecute a billionaire you need rock solid evidence - which they have in the Trump cases. He’s as guilty as sin - that’s 100% certain.

I mean - how can it be weaponised if he’s on tape admitting it?

And how can Trump be bothering the establishment? He’s a billionaire, he fiddles his tax so he pays less tax than me, he gave billionaires a massive tax cut - the establishment loves him. Unless you think the establishment consists of poor people rather than billionaires.

Trump doesn’t go to jail any more than Blair does.
There’s plenty of people that argue “Lock Bliar Blair Up” - but he’s had his decade as our leader, and Labour voters did not ONCE consider voting Conservative to get rid of him.
Who’s the bigger fool? The Liar, or the fools who believed the lies, until he leaves office, and only THEN do the damning lies come out?

Trump’s so-called Offences didn’t harm anyone other than Establishment people.
Wouldn’t we all love a leader like that in THIS country that goes around giving the public what it wants, and thumbing nose at high-ups all over?

“Popularism” is spoken of by the Elites as if it were “Nazism”…
Then meanwhile you have “Standard Leftists” saying that the Gaza citizens deserve a better deal that the terrorist government they elected would apparently permit them…
Nope
Either you think “Democracy Works” - or you realize from the point of mass media onwards - that it simply don’t work anymore.
Too easy to rig ballots. Too easy to stay in power once you’ve been in power a couple of decades.
Too difficult to stay out of jail once you become “serious opposition”, or “serious anti-establishment”.

If the Democrats win next year - Guns will be outlawed (except Bad Guy’s Guns…) challenging authority will see you “Swatted” every time, and America becomes nothing more than an annexed province under CCP control.
The average citizen’s two choices are: Vote for us, or stay at home and don’t vote.

Well, f–k that.
I for one - would rather have a benevolent dictator than the “can’t ever blame us” establishment that aim to be our masters - until the end of time.

Lefties really need to ask themselves what they believe in - because it doesn’t seem to be their “cause” anymore - for some time since!

Noticed trump is 11/8 best…for next president. :laughing:
9/4 Biden

Franglais:

Marky-p:
Trump has managed to build and maintain a large enterprise in the world’s toughest business environment: New York.

He is currently under investigation for financial mismanagement in NY.
He’s done nothing wrong. His one offence has been to perform above expextations as an Amateur politician, and offend the deep state perma-poltical class.
Property valuations being “overdone for borrowing collateral purposes” are done by the evaluators appointed by the lenders rather than the would-be borrower against such collateral. To accuse Trump of bribing valutors so he could borrow above and beyond what otherwise would have been a lower credit line - isn’t his offence to commit, but the lenders. The reason Trump has gone bankrupt some ten times in the past - is because his lenders hope he’ll “overstretch” his borrowings, so they can foreclose, and collect all his properties at fire sale prices. “Weaponization of the Real Estate World” has occured then AGAINST Trump. Thing is, Trump might be an amateur politician - but he’s an absolute expert at Property Development, including how to play the markets, play the lenders against each other (for better loan terms) and NONE of this happens to be “Illegal” in any way.

He is, as I explained in a previous post, as rich now as decades ago. He has financially built nothing.
Is there such a thing as a “Financial Built” anything?
Look up a firm called “Olympia and York”. They financed the building of Canary Wharf 1, Canada House building for example…
They built it way over budget, then went under defaulting on their bonds.
The bond traders - made an absolute killing dumping the worthless O&Y bonds into hapless investors pockets, knowing in advance they would have a net return of ZERO for anyone (Private Investors, Pension Funds) purchasing them… “Toxic Debt”. And yet… Canary Wharf is an extanct building, pretty much full up of “customers” that back in the day - included LATER to fold Lehmans Investment Bank - once experts at dumping losses into other people’s pockets themselves (as were Merril Lynch, and others…) only to be out-played by the larger investment banks like Goldman Sachs, who in due time picked the bones of the carcasses of other failed banks, and the PENSION FUNDS that they brought down with them, at full public expense of course…
“Retirees” from even firms like O&Y, Lehmans, Barings, and others - retired as happy property-owning millionaires, whilst pensioners lost their shirts.
The only crimes commited in the entire Debt sector then - are the LEGAL crimes that I have just described above.
This happens to be the only subject I am truly “Left Wing” on - so don’t knock me for that.

Jeff Bezos…a leftie?
Depends on your point of view I guess.
He might be to the left of many other US millionaires etc, but given his views on trades unions? Not really a leftie is he.
“Left of Conservative” along with “Liberals” along with “The Mainstream Left” - teamed up to bring down Trump.
That makes them all co-conspirator left in their play in the political sphere.

Going from 1/4 mill to millions of millions is indeed (unlike Trump) building a business.

Marky-p:
[ the FBI to raid his house even after Trump had been co-operating with the National Archives re so-called ‘classified documents’. .

Give over. Trump got his lawyer to send them a statement that they’d handed over all the documents (he always gets other people to commit his crimes for him) and when they heard he still had hundreds of documents they raided his house and guess what - they found hundreds of classified documents. How can you call that “co-operating”? He even said to his lawyer “Can’t we just tell them we don’t have anything?”

And he told that poor sucker of an aide to destroy all the footage of him moving documents before the FBI searched it for the first time - so he’s looking at 300 years in prison for lying about it to the FBI.

The difference Biden DID co-operate and handed everything over. And what defence is that supposed to be anyway? Trump supporters always think if you say “Well so-and-so did this…” about some vaguely similar case that that means Trump is innocent. No, every case is different and gets treated suitably to the case - that’s how law enforcement tends to work.

commonrail:
Noticed trump is 11/8 best…for next president. :laughing:
9/4 Biden

The polls don’t mean anything at this point - and if you look at the polls you see something like 20% undecided - they’re the people Trump needs to convince - not the rednecks and the yahoo’s he’s got already. And there’s very little chance of him gaining any moderate or independent voters with him going full dictator. He’s finished.

And the republicans still have abortion to deal with - they’re never gonna win another election with this ban on abortion.

commonrail:
Noticed trump is 11/8 best…for next president. :laughing:
9/4 Biden

Mostly because Biden has shown he has done a crap job as president. Plus he’s corrupt.

JeffA:

commonrail:
Noticed trump is 11/8 best…for next president. :laughing:
9/4 Biden

The polls don’t mean anything at this point - and if you look at the polls you see something like 20% undecided - they’re the people Trump needs to convince - not the rednecks and the yahoo’s he’s got already. And there’s very little chance of him gaining any moderate or independent voters with him going full dictator. He’s finished.

And the republicans still have abortion to deal with - they’re never gonna win another election with this ban on abortion.

“Abortion” as an issue - won’t make a difference unless you see a large number of Bible Belt people abandon Trump FOR the Pro-Abortionists…
Not until Hell Freezes Over - I point out…

“20% undecided” are likely to be Democrat voters currently “undecided” if they will come out and vote at present.
Their votes cannot be cast for them by the rigging machine unless and until they confirm they WON’T be coming out to vote, lest there be too many traces of multi-voting in legacy format (i.e. paper ballots as evidence of wrongdoing) rather than the travesty of 2020 where email ballots unsigned were tabulated into voting machines, and then destroyed… All illegal acts.
They’ve turned “Electronic Election Tabulation” into nothing more than a “Seeded Market” at a Tote Racetrack!!!

All this fuss about Trump becoming a Dictator? - They’re worried he’ll win a full-blown supermajority that’s all.
Isn’t that the way “Democracy” is supposed to work?
Isn’t a “clear and clean win” better than all this 51/49% fiasco, or even 50.000001 vs 49.999999 “Ohh Trump is sooo divisive!” crap that’s been going on all around the world, thanks to the new rigged system installed western-worldwide during the lockdown?
It’s likely that the main “hidden agenda” OF the lockdown - was to implement this system, so that ALL future western elections can be “tipped one way or the other” electronically, but (as we saw in 2020) “not working so well in real time” because the results get delayed and delayed - until the desired winners have chance to get their non-existant extra votes tabulated…
Anywhere where the Dems were ahead - got called early, anywhere where the initial surge of counted votes was for Republicans - went on and on - until Blues magically got votes from multiple dodgy sources including multipal voting, dead people voting, out-of-cachement voting, tourist voting (Nevada for example) and ballot harvesting from “undecided” former democrat voters who won’t be turning up, and therefore won’t miss that someone appropriated their vote and cast it for whom they cast it for last time FOR them.

It is all about “Belief”.
If you believe the above happens to be TRUE then no amount of smearing will be enough to get you to “not vote against the Establishment” at the next election.

In THIS country - we’re being told if Former Tory voters vote REFORM - they’ll be putting Starmer in number 10 with a big majority…
So■■?
I’m not scared of Starmer - I just won’t be voting for him
I’d rather a Starmer PM with RP Opposition than voting Tory to somehow reduce Starmer’s majority…

Democracy is BEST served when HUNDREDS of seats change hands.
It is WORST served when <10 seats change hands, which is where we’re going in “Divided” politics using a rigged system has taken us.
“Impossible to remove incumbents - except by voting for another incumbent”.
Not good - is it?