Rip drive, thoughts go out to his family and friends
Stay safe out there chaps
R.I.P drive
How was it the coach driver got arrested for dangerous driving when he was broken down and stationary? Was it foglights or lack of?
bigvern1:
Quick…Someone blame someone…Idiots. Sad loss indeed.
That seems to be the way things are these days. “Who can we blame for this” is the 1st question. Then later comes “What regulations can we implement to stop it happening again” then finally, “RIP drive”.
Looks like a tragic accident. 3 Coach crashes in the last month. Jeremy Vine will be asking callers to phone in and demonize coach drivers next week.
R.I.P Driver, condolonces to his family and friends.
3300John:
Hiya very very sad rest in peace mate…when i saw the roof of the psv through the windscreen i thought
things was not good.
John
+1
R.I.P
Squiddy:
How was it the coach driver got arrested for dangerous driving when he was broken down and stationary? Was it foglights or lack of?
Lack of as a witness said plus he had 12 minutes to get everyone behind the barrier.
He decided it would be safer to sit in lane 1 which the majority of hgvs use with just hazard lights on and keep everyone on the bus.
Some folks seem to think it is safer to sit in their vehicles than stand out in the cold or rain.
The lorry driver clearly tried to avoid the bus but still hit it, RIP drive.
bubsy06:
Some folks seem to think it is safer to sit in their vehicles than stand out in the cold or rain.
The lorry driver clearly tried to avoid the bus but still hit it, RIP drive.
To be honest many people don’t really realise the risk they are in when they are stationary on a motorway, one of the lads at work changed an offisde rear tyre on our van on the hard shoulder of the M25 a few months back.
I couldn’t get him to realise what a danger he’d put himself in,
but he doesn’t half complain if anybody should suggest he flys to a circuit in the company aircraft as he thinks it’s to small and therefore dangerous, he’d much rather go by East Jet. 
The driver was 65yrs old, anyone else think we should have our feet up at that age, not be driving a bloody truck because our pensions are shot
Lost his life when he should’ve been relaxing and enjoying his time left.
waynedl:
The driver was 65yrs old, anyone else think we should have our feet up at that age, not be driving a bloody truck because our pensions are shotLost his life when he should’ve been relaxing and enjoying his time left.
I would prefer to be driving , beats sitting at home looking forward to your pension every week.
Sitting round doing not much for my remaining years is not my idea of fun. I’m hoping to never retire myself. Just can’t see the attraction.
Arresting the driver would make sense as everything he says after caution (doesn’t matter howlong after caution) then becomes a significant statement and is evidential. If he were to say anything prior to caution it’s not admissable.
An arrest is used to facilitate an investigation and usually someone will be arrested ‘on suspicion’ of an offence, doesn’t mean someone is guilty of that offence.
To be arrested for anything, one of 5 necessity criteria need to met, without having a necessity the arrest is unlawful.
To prevent further loss or damage to persons or property
To confirm the identity of someone
To prevent someone absconding (fleeing the country etc)
To allow a promt and effective investigation
To protect a child or vunerable person
Condolences to the family of the deceased.
switchlogic:
Sitting round doing not much for my remaining years is not my idea of fun. I’m hoping to never retire myself. Just can’t see the attraction.
Same here, I hope I’m able to work in some form or another for many years after I’m 65.
What people seem to forget is when the pensions were introduced in 1909 it was for those over 70 and the average life expentancy for a man was about 50 years, when the Basic State pension was introduced for men of 65 or over the life expentancy for a man was only about 65 years, life expenctancy for a man is now about 80 years.
And it’s not just life expentancy, many 65 years olds are far fitter and healther than their parents were at the same age.
Its another sad day for the Road Haulage industry. RIP driver. I didnt know you, but it would appear that you put the lives of others before your own, and that is professionalism of the highest order. Sincere condolences to the family of this driver at this dark time. Living around the worcestershire and working in the county has lead me to come accross some of these coaches in the past. I remember once being overtaken by a coach with about forty people on, up a hill, whilst my tractor and I was empty. I had to come to a gradual crawl, to let him past. My first impression was Knob, followed by ■■■■■■ when he braked sharply after missing the field gateway. I remember at the time the police were always pulling these vehicles.
Safe driving guys and girls.
lightning:
Its another sad day for the Road Haulage industry. RIP driver. I didnt know you, but it would appear that you put the lives of others before your own, and that is professionalism of the highest order.RIP Driver. Also my thoughts are with your family and friends as they come to terms with what has happened. Another company which has received the worst possible phone call ever, my thoughts go out to you and your staff who will be stunned by this tragedy. Again, RIP driver
bubsy06:
How can you not know who you sold the vehicle to though?
I thought you had to enter the details of the new owner on the log book before you sent it off
They would know the name of the dealer and the dealer would know the name of the next person who bought it
They were speaking to a stagecoach spokesman who said it was sold to a dealer and he didnt know who the dealer sold it to, whitch seems normal
The Sarge:
[zb] Off!! From the photos it looks like (emphasise “looks like”) the lorry was travelling in lane 1 at an unspecified speed, came across an unlit obstruction, tries to move onto hard shoulder which is unavailable due to the bridge, and either swerves back into the bus or possibly glances off the concrete wall and hits the bus. Either scenario would push the bus into the centre of the carriageway. If the lorry driver had swerved into lane 2 he could have wiped out any vehicle overtaking him. From what I can see from the video and photos he did all he could. He put himself directly into harms way - it was his seat that took the force of the impact, I don’t think I could have done the same. Hope he recovers soon.
The bus drivers duty was to get passengers off the bus - they wouldn’t have had to “walk down a live lane” as they were already in lane 1!
Sorry, the first rule of driving is that you must be able to stop in the road you can see to be clear, if a driver doesnt have time to stop then he is driving far to fast.
a lot of old buses drain the battery very fast when the engines not running and you dont switch off internal lights.coupled with the fact the bus was grey/white it would have been virtually invisible in thick fog. i reckon the driver should have got the passengers off the bus and maybe walk back down the hard shoulder[with a high vis on] and try to warn vehicles of an obstruction. theres no set procedure laid down anywhere just expect the driver to do the safest thing 
RIP driver and passenger
On the other hand them signs in the roadworks do say remain with vehicle in case of breakdown.
One thing on my mind- why did a member of the public call the police not the bus driver?