i’m assuming other drivers heard about the restricted overtaking on the M11 on Jeremy vine this afternoon,did any of you listen to that stupid woman who said that lorries should be taken off the road and goods put on rails, and in her words said I am sure we can manage without you guys,obviously another idiot who does not know what she is talking about,these people need to be sat down and educated then they wouldn’t come out with such stupid statements,for one thing haulage is a multi billion pound industry,the government will never take lorries off the road as they would lose too much revenue in taxes,all they can do is make our jobs more trouble with enforcement,more legislation,thats what they will do to appease idiots like suzy,but at the same time will make them more money when haulage companies have to pay for it all,what was worse was the driver who tried to argue with her when he phoned in,if you are going to phone in at least make the argument sound good,he didn’t do us any favours at all.
I don’t even bother entertaining them to be frank. You can’t educate the permanently stupid. If they want to campaign to get all lorries off the road and all freight onto rails, zb’ing let them. If they want to ban all lorries from London, zb’ing let them. People like that are so far up their own asses they’ve come full circle.
Radar19:
I don’t even bother entertaining them to be frank. You can’t educate the permanently stupid. If they want to campaign to get all lorries off the road and all freight onto rails, zb’ing let them. If they want to ban all lorries from London, zb’ing let them. People like that are so far up their own asses they’ve come full circle.
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Yet at the same time they complain about (the paltry) subsidies given to rail - I’m sure they’d also complain if ticket prices go up five or ten fold to pay for a rail network twice the size it is now. The government barely managed to get around NIMBYs for ONE new rail line. And what happens at the end of the line? Huge American-style terminii, people don’t even like the idea of truck stops. And how are goods making ‘final mile delivery’?
iomex:
Yet at the same time they complain about (the paltry) subsidies given to rail - I’m sure they’d also complain if ticket prices go up five or ten fold to pay for a rail network twice the size it is now. The government barely managed to get around NIMBYs for ONE new rail line. And what happens at the end of the line? Huge American-style terminii, people don’t even like the idea of truck stops. And how are goods making ‘final mile delivery’?
That is NIMBY’ism at its base level. “As long as its not happening in my back yard, I don’t care”.
Can’t see the point of it to be honest, why restrict all vehicles above 7.5 tons to Lane 1, any goods vehicle above 3.5 ton is on a limiter restricted to the same speed as the above 7.5 ton vehicles, so he can overtake all the weight restricted vehicles and hold the traffic in Lane 2 for miles as he can’t pull in as the above 7.5 ton vehicles are filling up Lane 1.
If they take the limiters off we would take less time to overtake simples,go back to 80s speeds and help the traffic flow faster 
Don’t these idiots realise rail capacity is at its maximum,I work out of rail heads so know this is true.
Also the Welsh guy on radio 2 made a good point about drivers just letting the cruise control off a couple of clicks and let the lorry past,but as we all know we have dicks in this industry that don’t.
Every time Jeremy vine mentions HGV’s I cringe and reach for the off switch because I know they are going to get a mouth breathing moron ring in and confirm in the general populations small minds that all truck drivers are indeed sub human. Sure enough, this Friday was no exception thanks to the north west guy…thanks ‘pal’. The welsh driver did go some way to redressing the balance but was too little too late. I’m starting to think the BBC has an agenda by letting the most retarded sounding driver have his say on air or am I just being paranoid because in reality those of us with a modicum of intelligence have either switched off or know the cause is lost so CBA ringing in?
I weep for the future [emoji25]
Get ready folks, more of these restrictions will start coming in after this.
Thanks a lot to the braindead elephant racers amongst us & bullies who force their way into lane 2 to avoid going 1mph slower, you’ve gone and ■■■■■■ it up for all of us 
nomiS36:
Every time Jeremy vine mentions HGV’s I cringe and reach for the off switch because I know they are going to get a mouth breathing moron ring in and confirm in the general populations small minds that all truck drivers are indeed sub human. Sure enough, this Friday was no exception thanks to the north west guy…thanks ‘pal’. The welsh driver did go some way to redressing the balance but was too little too late. I’m starting to think the BBC has an agenda by letting the most retarded sounding driver have his say on air or am I just being paranoid because in reality those of us with a modicum of intelligence have either switched off or know the cause is lost so CBA ringing in?I weep for the future [emoji25]
Jeremy Wine is just typical of the hypocritical middle classes moans about traffic, pollution and the environment then goes home to his Italian pasta, French wine and Spanish salad not realising that it all arrived in the UK on the back of a lorry. TBH you would think he had bigger things to worry about because there is no way that him and his brother Tim came from the same ballbag
nomiS36:
Every time Jeremy vine mentions HGV’s I cringe and reach for the off switch because I know they are going to get a mouth breathing moron ring in and confirm in the general populations small minds that all truck drivers are indeed sub human. Sure enough, this Friday was no exception thanks to the north west guy…thanks ‘pal’. The welsh driver did go some way to redressing the balance but was too little too late. I’m starting to think the BBC has an agenda by letting the most retarded sounding driver have his say on air or am I just being paranoid because in reality those of us with a modicum of intelligence have either switched off or know the cause is lost so CBA ringing in?I weep for the future [emoji25]
I have just listened to it on iPlayer - what a car crash of a piece, and yes, do the beeb search for the stupidest folk out there to ring in or do they use actors? Was Simon from Bolton played by Peter Kay’s Max character? - I loved the delayed response to the womans idiot remarks about putting it all on the trains - ‘What on earth is she on about, give the lady a banana’ - brilliant.
I think the program just summed up the unrealistic hopes of all these clowns who have spent more money than they can afford on a car they don’t need. The truth of the matter is; even if they had to drive the entire length of the M11 behind two box jockeys racing each other on their limiters - they would only have been delayed by 11 minutes, YES 11 MINUTES. (and the fuel they would save travelling at 56 instead of 70- could equate to as much as £16 an hour - they should be grateful for the safer more economical, more environmentally friendly journey) Elephant racing clearly has more positives than negatives - more of it would not be a bad thing.
I’ve read some utter crap on here but the suggestion that elephant racing is a good idea and that other road users should be glad that brain-dead lorry drivers engage in it probably takes the biscuit.
Drivers are their own worst enemy. Always have been, always will be.
eurotrans:
If they take the limiters off we would take less time to overtake simples,go back to 80s speeds and help the traffic flow faster
Love it… in 1980 when i was younger and mad i had a quick ERF. 80 plus and id drive it that fast… every time i went into the office the gaffer
(didn’t give a F■■?) would say 3 people have phoned in to day about how fast you went… everyday they was moaning… now were going to slow for the silly ■■■■■■
i say lets all park up for a week and show them… i know removals men are working full time what about house moves for a start before owt else…
John
Olog Hai:
I’ve read some utter crap on here but the suggestion that elephant racing is a good idea and that other road users should be glad that brain-dead lorry drivers engage in it probably takes the biscuit.Drivers are their own worst enemy. Always have been, always will be.
I agree 
or was he saying that with his tongue firmly placed in cheek…? 
3300John:
eurotrans:
If they take the limiters off we would take less time to overtake simples,go back to 80s speeds and help the traffic flow fasterLove it… in 1980 when i was younger and mad i had a quick ERF. 80 plus and id drive it that fast… every time i went into the office the gaffer
(didn’t give a F■■?) would say 3 people have phoned in to day about how fast you went… everyday they was moaning… now were going to slow for the silly [zb]
i say lets all park up for a week and show them… i know removals men are working full time what about house moves for a start before owt else…
John
You’ve just reminded me of a conversation I had a couple of weeks ago with a building site manager where I was delivering to. He, an Irish fella (very relevant lol) came to check the goods I’d just moffetted off and we got chatting about trucks. Turned out he used to be a trucker back in the good ol’ days and was telling me about his favourite truck, the legendary 141 he once had. Anyway, I couldn’t resist bringing up the subject of speeding Irish trucks and how they now seem to be one of the slowest on the roads these days 
He then told me about the fastest he’d heard of a fellow Irishman getting a speeding ticket for was 102mph on the M25 
Obviously he couldn’t prove this as a fact but he didn’t come across as a bull s***er so who knows■■?
nomiS36:
speeding ticket for was 102mph on the M25
That must have been an award because I often can’t get close to the limiter on there
nomiS36:
Olog Hai:
I’ve read some utter crap on here but the suggestion that elephant racing is a good idea and that other road users should be glad that brain-dead lorry drivers engage in it probably takes the biscuit.Drivers are their own worst enemy. Always have been, always will be.
I agree
Certainly a little bit tongue in cheek, but no more ridiculous than car drivers getting themselves all wound up about a lorry overtaking another lorry.
If someone is driving the entire length of the M11, and if for a quarter of that journey they are held up by a lorry overtaking another lorry - then that have been delayed for less than 3 minutes. There is no problem!
I heard this too, the lady Lgv driver did a good job in explaining about momentum with empty and loaded wagons, but the lady who rang in moaning about get us off the road and she does not need trucks made my blood boil, the same old rubbish of get freight on the train, but goods still need to be shifted once arrived at the rail terminals .
She mentioned Europe has truck bans, and they cope ok with them, but she mean lane overtaking bans or the bans when there are holdays and festivals ?
For example there is a truck ban in Italy from Good Friday until Tuesday morning, the day after Bank hoilday Monday .
European drivers get more rest time than driver working in the UK .
Agree on the driver who rang in who could not string two words together to make a sentence so we could not understand what he was on about, as said, do the BBC hire them for acting purposes ?
iomex:
Yet at the same time they complain about (the paltry) subsidies given to rail - I’m sure they’d also complain if ticket prices go up five or ten fold to pay for a rail network twice the size it is now. The government barely managed to get around NIMBYs for ONE new rail line. And what happens at the end of the line? Huge American-style terminii, people don’t even like the idea of truck stops. And how are goods making ‘final mile delivery’?
Years ago,anyone who did any Italian work will know, they used to put rail wagons on a low bed trailer and take them into the town and park them outside a shop! Sure that would go down well!