Well the signs are up, hgv’s banned from lane 2 between 7am - 7pm on the M11 nr the A11 jct 9, suppose this will be inforce over the coming days, at the moment the signs with the truck logo is covered with black plastic but on a couple of the signs its already coming off due to winds etc, its gonna be for a couple of miles before A11 N/bnd and looks like a couple of miles S/bnd when you join the M11 from A11.
There to improve journey times for joe public, while i have sit behind a fully laden slow moving truck even if nothing is coming up on lane 2!!!
right before that bloody big hill s/b, accident waiting to happen that as trucks will be going really slow because of someone further up strugling to shovel coal into the furnace quick enough and BANG 
someone will slam into the back as they didnt see the slower moving trucks.
so people coming off the A11 onto the M11 will be forced to stop and giveway before they join if trucks are slow moving as we cant move into lane 2■■
very true, kin stupid idea, will you want to slow down even more or stop to let someone join from A11 in a heavy line of traffic on the M/way!!!
This could be why it’s being done - it only takes a few like this…
Governor!
FROM HERE:
That must be about 10 miles 
There to improve journey times for joe public
If the above infuriates a trucker then no wonder it does that and more to the rest of the motoring public
Can i apologise now to anyone who gets stuck behind me on that stretch
C-Kay:
Can i apologise now to anyone who gets stuck behind me on that stretch
god help you son if you see a royal mail truck in your rear view mirrors on that stretch, thats all i will say. with them actions speak louder than words 
if you have ever seen black dog the movie think of scene where the trucks are trying to push jack crews truck out of the way thats what to expect 
Yep, I’m totally in favour, I think they should do it on the M26 too.
These overtaking bans really seem to be saving car drivers loads of time.
http://www.fta.co.uk/assets/files/traffic-digest/Traffic-digest-24%20Oct08.pdf
Goto page 3 and read the bit about the A14 HGV overtaking ban, it makes some interesting reading. I havn’t found the figures for the M42 experiment.
I would be happy with overtaking bans if they also banned all vehicles under 3.5ton (ie cars) from the nearside lane, or gave them a minimum speed limit of 60.
Been thinking about this all week and from my observations it’s very rare that you get an incident where one lorry is slightly faster than the other trying to overtake, youve either got a slow lorry or a fast one so overtaking is easy. What causes the hold ups more often than not are the dithering car drivers who speed up as you overtake and leave you hanging for miles. If these morons could be taken out of the equation there would be alot less hold ups, but instead of people giving these idiots some stick all they see is the big truck holding them up.
Unfortunatley the HGV always gets (zb) over
Cruise Control:
C-Kay:
Can i apologise now to anyone who gets stuck behind me on that stretchgod help you son if you see a royal mail truck in your rear view mirrors on that stretch, thats all i will say. with them actions speak louder than words
if you have ever seen black dog the movie think of scene where the trucks are trying to push jack crews truck out of the way thats what to expect
I might start using the hard shoulder then
I think it is unbelievable that the ban is on the A11 junction M11!!! EVERYTIME I come past that junction I am nearly always flying past a slower fully loaded truck.
I can see exactly whats gonna happen here…and I bet it will happen within 4 weeks…
Car joining the M11 from A11 at say 30-50mph…then goes straight out into lane 2 where there is a line of cars doing between50-80mph…
The result is not gonna be pretty cos you got the barrier and a line of trucks cushioning your impact! 
The HA jounrney time survey on the A14 shows that these bans do decrease jounrney times for motorists. With this totally overwhelming evidence it made sense to make the ban permanent.
A14 HGV Overtaking Ban
HA has recently concluded its “Journey Time
Reliability” trial along two sections of the A14 near
to the interchange with the M1 / M6. HGVs had
been restricted to only using the nearside lane
between the hours of 6am to 8pm.
Eastbound Traffic
AM Peak
Average journey times for non HGVs have
reduced by up to 15 seconds, while those for
HGVs increased by up to 15 seconds.
Off Peak
Average journey times for non HGVs initially
increased by up to 16 seconds and 11
seconds for HGVs. However in the final
survey there was a decrease of 11 seconds
for non HGVs and a decrease of 10 seconds
for HGVs.
PM Peak
Marginal change for non HGVs with an
increase of up to 2 seconds in the first three
“after” surveys. Average journey times for
HGVs increased by some 8 — 22 seconds. In
the final survey there was however, a
decrease of 17 seconds for non HGVs and a
decrease of 4 seconds for HGVs.
Westbound Traffic
AM Peak
Average journey times for non HGVs reduced
with savings of between 4 and 21 seconds.
Journey for HGVs improved by up to 10
seconds.
Off Peak -
Improvements for non HGV traffic of between
8 and 20 seconds, with a lower improvement
for HGVs of up to 11 seconds.
PM Peak —
An average journey time saving of between 9
and 22 seconds for non HGVs and by around
6 to 20 seconds for HGVAlthough I would say the problem has been caused by poor driving from truck drivers, any truck overtaking is going to annoy some drivers as they don’t have time to breath, but when 2 trucks battle it out for miles on end then both drivers are [zb]'s.
Grayham:
I would be happy with overtaking bans if they also banned all vehicles under 3.5ton (ie cars) from the nearside lane, or gave them a minimum speed limit of 60.Been thinking about this all week and from my observations it’s very rare that you get an incident where one lorry is slightly faster than the other trying to overtake, youve either got a slow lorry or a fast one so overtaking is easy. What causes the hold ups more often than not are the dithering car drivers who speed up as you overtake and leave you hanging for miles. If these morons could be taken out of the equation there would be alot less hold ups, but instead of people giving these idiots some stick all they see is the big truck holding them up.
Unfortunatley the HGV always gets (zb) over
I’m moving to your part of the world! That’s certainly not my experience in the south-east!
44 Tonne Ton:
Grayham:
I would be happy with overtaking bans if they also banned all vehicles under 3.5ton (ie cars) from the nearside lane, or gave them a minimum speed limit of 60.Been thinking about this all week and from my observations it’s very rare that you get an incident where one lorry is slightly faster than the other trying to overtake, youve either got a slow lorry or a fast one so overtaking is easy. What causes the hold ups more often than not are the dithering car drivers who speed up as you overtake and leave you hanging for miles. If these morons could be taken out of the equation there would be alot less hold ups, but instead of people giving these idiots some stick all they see is the big truck holding them up.
Unfortunatley the HGV always gets (zb) over
I’m moving to your part of the world! That’s certainly not my experience in the south-east!
Nor my experience in the… well anywhere in fact!
Its a done deal these bans, and theres far more to come, including the A12 in Essex
Now, these ones on the A14…seems as though the majority ignore it, why is that■■?
And why the ZB dont they sshut the laybys, its soooooo darn dangerous in my opinion, but hey ho, we are “only” lorry drivers so when we are peeling our faces from the rear of heavy truck thats pulled out and caused a backlog of heavy braking, resulting in the aforementioned…so bloomin dangerous
Too Fat To Fly:
Its a done deal these bans, and theres far more to come, including the A12 in EssexNow, these ones on the A14…seems as though the majority ignore it, why is that■■?
And why the ZB dont they sshut the laybys, its soooooo darn dangerous in my opinion, but hey ho, we are “only” lorry drivers so when we are peeling our faces from the rear of heavy truck thats pulled out and caused a backlog of heavy braking, resulting in the aforementioned…so bloomin dangerous
Of course a deal has been done and now the overtaking ban genie is out of the lamp it will be everywhere, but the locations will have more to do with public pressure and local politics than any real evidence that it saves motorists time.
They have made the ones on the A14 permanent, dispite the HA survey showing an Average saving on the A14 of 6 to 22 seconds. But there is an election coming and it keeps car drivers happy.
Fewer laybys, but large parking area’s instead with proper slip roads. Safer overnight parking not sitting along side a live carriageway. Larger parking area’s means better trade for a small cafe or tea van, maybe with part of thier licence that they keep the area clean and tidy.
That ban is a joke, for the simple fact that while I was going up hill fully freighted at 45mph, a dutchman in a 340 topline was in lane 2 doing 45.1mph. We were passing the big signs saying HGV overtaking ban 1 mile, get in lane, handilly just after the one that says slow lorries for 1 mile. Get to the top of the hill where the ban is about to take place and I hold it at about 60ish while the dutchman makes himself a blur in my vision. It’s only a mile or so long, and either the dim lows have put it on the wrong side of the motorway, when told to place it by the A11 split, or somebody is seriously out with there calculations. It is pointless as you can still sit up hill at 40mph in lane 2, then tank off down hill in lane 1 on the ban 
I just hope for all your sake’s I don’t have to go that way loaded…see a hill, any hill and I am back down the box 
so reading this right the overtaking ban s/b is at the top of the hill AFTER the a11 junction■■?
Cruise Control:
so reading this right the overtaking ban s/b is at the top of the hill AFTER the a11 junction■■?
No, it’s north bound at the top of the hill, just before the mile marker for the A11. Ironically, the get in lane signs are all on the up hill section