Would it not be fair to invite Rural Rhodes back to give a balanced view
bobthedog:
New rules, eh, David. Funny that. Not long ago RobK was banned from this site again. Do I take it the rules have been changed so he is allowed back then?
The phrase âNew Rulesâ should be a clue that they have I would have thought.
Obviously you have not read them. Please read them before shouting the odds in here, you donât help your case by ignoring them.
They will not because it is more fun for them to call me a liar and you are permitting it.
No, I am not. And Iâm not permitting you to do it either.
bobthedog:
New rules, eh, David. Funny that. Not long ago RobK was banned from this site again. Do I take it the rules have been changed so he is allowed back then?He and BT have stated that I am taking backhanders and that I am on a recruiting drive. As has been pointed out, I have provided them with contact details so they can call to find out that their statements are false. They will not because it is more fun for them to call me a liar and you are permitting it.
OK, so, RobK, tell me more about the runaway truck incident without any untruths. Tell me more about how you are the only person on here bragging about the 48K you earn. After all, surely the legal driving hours make it so you must be on 50 quid an hour.
And BT, tell us genuine tales about these globetrotting expeditions you alluded to then climbed down and said you had been there on holiday.
Personal attack deleted.D.Not that we didnât get that idea already.
There, I canât have broken any forum rules because they havenât, or am I not allowed to say such things? Correct.
You are entitled to your opinion, just like I am entitled to mine.
You should knowâŚ
If you are applying for a job in N.America you can safely assume that someone somewhere is going to get paid to sign you up.If you are dealing with a company recruiter you should assume he /she has the same ethics as your local double dealing politician. In other words they will say whatever you want to hear.Get it in writing.
Companies in N.America always provide an incentive to drivers who bring in new recruits. Whether the driver takes the money is another matter. Where I work itâs $750US (nice) paid after your man has been with the company 90 days. My last recruit was Plasticbag .He made me buy him dinner when I got the bonus.
Most companies have somekind of signing bonus. Make sure to ask for it because they might not offer it freely.If they say they donât have bonusâs try to negotiate one.My last two jobs paid $2000 and $1500 respectively paid out at the end of the first year. Donât forget to ask about quarterly bonusâs while your at it.
If your signing up with one of these giant companies it probably wonât be the last job you ever look for.There is a reason they are recruiting you.Itâs to fill the seat of the last driver who just quit.You will find that there are much better jobs to be had once you get the feel of the place.
Companies here donât care who you have worked for.They only care that you have a clean license so itâs important to keep it that way so you can change jobs when you want to.
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It is my opinion that bobthedog is taking cash back-handers from Canadian trucking companies for introducing UK drivers and therefore his posts about Canada should not be trusted.
From your signature Rob,
You ARE entitled to your opinion, but seeing as how you have been asked on a number of occassions to back up , firstly your claims now your opinion, and cannot.
It is my opinion that you dont have the faintest idea of what you are talking about and therefore should be ignored by any user with any sense.
It is a shame because you can debate most of the time sensibly and back up your arguements. But every now and then you drop from sensible debate to trolling. such as in this thread and in your signature.
Rikki-UK:
It is my opinion that bobthedog is taking cash back-handers from Canadian trucking companies for introducing UK drivers and therefore his posts about Canada should not be trusted.
From your signature Rob,
You ARE entitled to your opinion, but seeing as how you have been asked on a number of occassions to back up , firstly your claims now your opinion, and cannot.
It is my opinion that you dont have the faintest idea of what you are talking about and therefore should be ignored by any user with any sense.
It is a shame because you can debate most of the time sensibly and back up your arguements. But every now and then you drop from sensible debate to trolling. such as in this thread and in your signature.
Rikki, you are entitled to your opinion too! All you need to do is take a look around the current and past thread posts on here and also take a look on other Canadian trucker forums and you will see that there is plenty of info from various sources stating that this does go on; in fact Longwayroundâs post above being one such example. I have also received a PM from a Canadian trucker working for BFS stating that this is standard practice ie. give the introducer a generous bonus for their âservicesâ but despite my pressuring them to post this on the forum to publicly prove bobthedog wrong I am thus far not having much success.
Consequently I am left with little choice but to do the best I can within the site rules to warn others that are thinking of going to Canada that this practice does go on and to take the advice given with a pinch of salt.
And if you think that your childish actions of adding labels to my username will bother me in the slightest, think again! How old are you? 5?
Rikki-UK:
It is my opinion that bobthedog is taking cash back-handers from Canadian trucking companies for introducing UK drivers and therefore his posts about Canada should not be trusted.
From your signature Rob,
You ARE entitled to your opinion, but seeing as how you have been asked on a number of occassions to back up , firstly your claims now your opinion, and cannot.
It is my opinion that you dont have the faintest idea of what you are talking about and therefore should be ignored by any user with any sense.
It is a shame because you can debate most of the time sensibly and back up your arguements. But every now and then you drop from sensible debate to trolling. such as in this thread and in your signature.
so if you allow Rk to attach a signature like that ,can anyone else follow suit and post , oh let me see knowâŚhum ⌠oh i know,lets say this
âRk s posts are to be taken with a grain of salt, because in my opinion, he doesn
t know of what he speaksâ.
This will be posted as an opinion as his is. This will really set a new precedent in posting etiquette. I`m sure that if everyone follows suit and hangs a signature that is meant to antagonize ,on every post all over this board, that it will certainly elevate this forum to a very high level.
Personally I think that allowing this will reduce this board to washroom graffiti level. This is also my opinion
My signature has been amended to remove the personal nature of it.
Certain Canadian truckers are taking cash back-handers from Canadian trucking companies for introducing UK drivers and therefore their posts about Canada should not be trusted.
A statement again Rob,
Are you talking about posters on TruckNet UK? if so which ones ARE?
and can you prove it, If you are talking about posters on another board then perhaps you should make that clear as your post is a little ambiguous at the moment.
At this moment in time I can see no proof whatsoever that anyone on here has been paid to expound the virtues of moving to Canada. I can see people who have actually done it discussing both the good and bad sides, and some who havent adding their tuppence worth.
I personally would rely more on those who have tried it, and their positive and negative experiences when making a judgement than by others who are perhaps surmising from other internet posts.
Rob K:
[! All you need to do is take a look around the current and past thread posts on here and also take a look on other Canadian trucker forums and you will see that there is plenty of info from various sources stating that this does go on; in fact Longwayroundâs post above being one such example. :
I donât think anybody is in any doubt that the practice you speak of is standard in North America, the point at issue is that BTD has stated he hasnât taken the money and therefore his opinions are honest and without incentive, thus he deserves to be taken at his word until someone can prove otherwise. To allege otherwise without proof is unacceptable. Anywhere. Not just here.
Rob K:
My signature has been amended to remove the personal nature of it.
Ok, I`ll amend mine too.
Certain BRITISH truckers are taking cash back-handers from BRITISH trucking companies for trying to dissuade UK drivers and therefore their posts about Canada should not be trusted.
How`s that Rk.
Just an opinion. I
Casey:
Rob K:
My signature has been amended to remove the personal nature of it.Ok, I`ll amend mine too.
Certain BRITISH truckers are taking cash back-handers from BRITISH trucking companies for trying to dissuade UK drivers and therefore their posts about Canada should not be trusted.
How`s that Rk.
Just an opinion. I
For those who can`t see that This post is humour,it is. I have no such thoughts or facts about anyone posting here or anywhere. Enjoy!
Hello to all
Mrs BTD Here.
Well to all it may concern, yes the trucking firms here do offer a sign on bonus to all drivers that recriut another driver. The amount is $250 IF they stay 90 days. BUT so does just about every other company including Mcdonalds , pizza hut and nearly all others in every industry. Just because the bonus is there it DOES NOT mean every one takes it. Rob does not take it even though at times we could have used it .He DOES NOT ACCEPT IT. This is down to his own beliefs and the fact that he feels it is wrong to do so. HE HELPS PEOPLE WHO GENUINELY WANT TO MAKE A FRESH START .
So robk if you think you know different please prove it. I guess the fact that we went to the yard on christmas day and brought all the drivers who were there home to ours for dinner and a bed was done to earn points was it ? as that is obviously the way your mind works. We are not all like you .Some people genuinely like to help others. So keep your snide innuendos to yourself unless you can prove otherwise.
Sorry Casey but I donât see the humor in the character assasination of BTD
Trubrit:
Sorry Casey but I donât see the humor in the character assasination of BTD
Sorry i didnt make it clearer for you. It
s about RK not BTD. Anything else you are having problems understanding,just ask.
Casey:
Trubrit:
Sorry Casey but I donât see the humor in the character assasination of BTDSorry i didn
t make it clearer for you. It
s about RK not BTD. Anything else you are having problems understanding,just ask.
I understood, and agreed, with both of you.
bobthedog:
Well to all it may concern, yes the trucking firms here do offer a sign on bonus to all drivers that recriut another driver. The amount is $250 IF they stay 90 days.
AND THERE IS THE PROOF YOU REQUIRED RIKKI.
Therefore, my signature is not offensive, childish, trolling or anything else in any way. It is completely factual and UK drivers thinking of heading out there should be made aware of it.
Personally I am not convinced the bobthedog is not taking back-handers but that is only my opinion.
It is clear that other Canadian drivers will be doing and therefore they will be painting a false picture of Canada to lure the drivers over there so that they can fill their boots.
On that basis, posts by Canadian truckers should be taken with a pinch of salt as you have no idea whether theyâre telling the truth or telling you what you want to hear.
Rob K:
bobthedog:
Well to all it may concern, yes the trucking firms here do offer a sign on bonus to all drivers that recriut another driver. The amount is $250 IF they stay 90 days.AND THERE IS THE PROOF YOU REQUIRED RIKKI.
Therefore, my signature is not offensive, childish, trolling or anything else in any way. It is completely factual and UK drivers thinking of heading out there should be made aware of it.
Personally I am not convinced the bobthedog is not taking back-handers but that is only my opinion.
It is clear that other Canadian drivers will be doing and therefore they will be painting a false picture of Canada to lure the drivers over there so that they can fill their boots.
On that basis, posts by Canadian truckers should be taken with a pinch of salt as you have no idea whether theyâre telling the truth or telling you what you want to hear.
Rob I see no proof that Bob is taking money, I see that they say they are notâŚ
You made sweeping statements that they were, not opinion, statements.
You still say you think they are, well thats your choice. to state it as fact is simply untrue tho. Thats why you got pulled up and now you are aware of it I hope you wont make statements like that again without proof.
Show us proof that any of the drivers on here are getting paid by their company to recruit on TruckNet UK then you can put that disclaimer in any post you like, without proof you are simply making allegations that may be untrue.
Rikki-UK:
Rob K:
bobthedog:
Well to all it may concern, yes the trucking firms here do offer a sign on bonus to all drivers that recriut another driver. The amount is $250 IF they stay 90 days.AND THERE IS THE PROOF YOU REQUIRED RIKKI.
Therefore, my signature is not offensive, childish, trolling or anything else in any way. It is completely factual and UK drivers thinking of heading out there should be made aware of it.
Personally I am not convinced the bobthedog is not taking back-handers but that is only my opinion.
It is clear that other Canadian drivers will be doing and therefore they will be painting a false picture of Canada to lure the drivers over there so that they can fill their boots.
On that basis, posts by Canadian truckers should be taken with a pinch of salt as you have no idea whether theyâre telling the truth or telling you what you want to hear.
Rob I see no proof that Bob is taking money, I see that they say they are notâŚ
I never said in my post above that he is. I said I wasnât convinced that he isnât and Iâm entitled to that opinion.
You made sweeping statements that they were, not opinion, statements.
You still say you think they are, well thats your choice. to state it as fact is simply untrue tho. Thats why you got pulled up and now you are aware of it I hope you wont make statements like that again without proof.
Show us proof that any of the drivers on here are getting paid by their company to recruit on TruckNet UK then you can put that disclaimer in any post you like, without proof you are simply making allegations that may be untrue.
The proof is above by bobthedogâs Mrs. You donât need proof to hold an opinion and furthermore, nowhere in my signature does it mention anything about TruckNetUK. I have said âcertain Canadian truckersâ, that is all.
What is wrong is to assume that someone who is getting paid is automatically lying to another driver.