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£20,000 in FPNs on day 1.
Get the wedge in & spend it on the pot holes.
Most of the wedge will go on re-branding! they will have to change all the stationary and logo’s now they are 1 agency.
The question is, how did they get out of a port without paying it?, my 9 mile journey to work has more ANPR cameras than I care to count, so within the port system it should flag up before they are let out, fine them then for being cheeky [zb] for trying to avoid it!
Hmmm… Wonder how much of that 20k is going to be refunded? A friend of a friend is a Brit driving for Johnny Foreigner, and he paid online last week. He got stopped, and even though he had a reference number, he still had a £300 fine cos his reg no wasn’t in the system.
The only problem I see in foreign lorries paying the tax is they will only add it to the haulage costs, in the end the customer will pay i.e.: you and me which will end up in the pockets of the DVSA so they can use it to make life more difficult for drivers. We used to have bilateral agreements with other countries which basically said if you don’t charge us to use your roads we won’t charge you to use ours, every ones a winner, that was when things were simpler then.
Before someone chips in, most motorways abroad are privately owned that’s why we have to pay to use them, national roads are free.
Ossie
Ossie completely agree.said many times Europe passes costs on to the end user…US…the imported product purchaser.No benefit whatsoever to the UK
just typical of those British travelling around Europe complaining over the years how thay have to pay for this that and the other…total rubbish and
I have spent over 35 years swanning around Europe.but I am waiting to find out whether FPN’s were issued in Portsmouth Ferry Terminal,Private Property
this week which I have had issues with before.Then it is my intention to let the French Transport Unions know their members are being robbed by the
British Government.And derv in France this week cost me a massive 81ppl nett,parking was free,superb roads free and extremely cheap food n wine in
excellent restuarants hell! might just donate £10 per day to some French charity.
Armagedon:
Ossie completely agree.said many times Europe passes costs on to the end user…US…the imported product purchaser.No benefit whatsoever to the UK
just typical of those British travelling around Europe complaining over the years how thay have to pay for this that and the other…total rubbish and
I have spent over 35 years swanning around Europe.but I am waiting to find out whether FPN’s were issued in Portsmouth Ferry Terminal,Private Property
this week which I have had issues with before.Then it is my intention to let the French Transport Unions know their members are being robbed by the
British Government.And derv in France this week cost me a massive 81ppl nett,parking was free,superb roads free and extremely cheap food n wine in
excellent restuarants hell! might just donate £10 per day to some French charity.
I like your style!!!
Ossie
Don’t wanna be funny here
But why is levy just aimed at HGVs from Europe, what about the buses and the smaller commercial vans… count less hundreds of the Mercedes sprinters from the continent that should be charged…
Do lorries registered in the republic of Ireland have to pay it?
limeyphil:
Do lorries registered in the republic of Ireland have to pay it?
Yep
Indeed they do and I have just noticed GasGas posted this up so a message to my good OLD buddy GasGas…go and find out using your journalistic
qualifications HOW the enforcement agencies can impose FPN’s on Private Land such as Portsmouth Terminal.Come on GasGas chop,chop.
One big flaw in vosa’s system though.
I run Foreign registered trucks where the trailer is a separate plate number. we have paid 1 years user charge on all the trucks but 2 of mine got pulled this morning as they read the trailer plate not the unit. i must admit when i spoke to the vosa guy on the phone he admitted it was a flaw and they will now only use the truck plate number not the trailer.
Wing and a prayer:
One big flaw in vosa’s system though.I run Foreign registered trucks where the trailer is a separate plate number. we have paid 1 years user charge on all the trucks but 2 of mine got pulled this morning as they read the trailer plate not the unit. i must admit when i spoke to the vosa guy on the phone he admitted it was a flaw and they will now only use the truck plate number not the trailer.
Knowing this gvt it will be amended so that each pay the levy arguing that a foreign registered trailer loaded abroad will be pulled by a UK unit, I know that RFL is paid but put yourself in a gvt ministers position of grabbing more money.
Wing and a prayer:
One big flaw in vosa’s system though.I run Foreign registered trucks where the trailer is a separate plate number. we have paid 1 years user charge on all the trucks but 2 of mine got pulled this morning as they read the trailer plate not the unit. i must admit when i spoke to the vosa guy on the phone he admitted it was a flaw and they will now only use the truck plate number not the trailer.
Not a flaw as such, I would put it down to VOSA’s stupidity. You say you spoke on the phone, so he must have stopped the vehicle and not bothered to check the vehicles VRM… Did he threaten a fine for the wrong trailer number plate too 
So desperate to rake in the money and weren’t even aware in Europe trailer and unit are seperate vehicles,why didn’t Vosa ASK here on Trucknet?
seems Vosa should face a MASSIVE penalty for getting it wrong.Hanging!
Armagedon:
So desperate to rake in the money and weren’t even aware in Europe trailer and unit are seperate vehicles,why didn’t Vosa ASK here on Trucknet?
seems Vosa should face a MASSIVE penalty for getting it wrong.Hanging!
Surely VOSA already knew this, or is number plates something they never check on a routine stop?
Armagedon:
Indeed they do and I have just noticed GasGas posted this up so a message to my good OLD buddy GasGas…go and find out using your journalistic
qualifications HOW the enforcement agencies can impose FPN’s on Private Land such as Portsmouth Terminal.Come on GasGas chop,chop.
A ‘public’ road is one to which the public have access (ie it’s not gated) even if it is not maintained at the public’s expense (RTA 1988).
My understanding is that VOSA can operate on land to which the public have access, irrespective of the ownership of that land. They can also operate on private land with permission of the landowner.
Similarly many public road traffic offences can be prosecuted even if they took place on private land, if the public have access to that land. Supermarket car parks (which were so beloved of the ‘cruising’ fraternity back in the day) are an example of this.
It’s worth remembering that the police (and indeed your insurer) can go onto private land to inspect your vehicle too. I think VOSA also have powers to go onto your designated operating centre.
Not quite Gas Gas Portsmouth Terminal is gated, had a rather memorable experience trying to prove it was private land.Britain begins outside the terminal
gate unlike Dover which is in public ownership so Britain begins at the ships docking point and several incidents in Portsmouth since have me convinced
Vosa are fully aware they are thieving.Your task is to find out which Legislation?Law of the Land exists which authorises enforcement staff to impose
FPN’s on Private Land and I am aware at Portsmouth if the Police wish to breathalyze a driver they stop him on the hard shoulder just outside the port.
Vosa has permission to check incoming vehicles in Portsmouth that came from the ports owners they just never asked or informed the owners they were
imposing FPN’s when it came in in 2009.Now get on with it,stop speculating,deal in facts expose corruption.
Presumably, the port authority is giving them permission to pass through the gate and operate on the premises then?
You could always ask the Port Authority if the VOSA operation is authorised by them, and if not call port security and get VOSA thrown off!
I remember one of the Irish Sea ports stopped VOSA from operating on its premises because they were scaring the Irish truckers away…can’t remember which one though.