Why are they left up when there are no loose chippings, and are they legally enforceable?
You know the ones that the council stick in the ground on the verge with 20 on, and you know that someone with a fish symbol on their car will religiously 
stick to it even when the white lines are down.
The signs are invariably oblong in shape, therefore are advisory as opposed to legally binding.
Exactly as maoster says.
Just donāt get too close to the vehicle in front. Itās like being pebble dashed!
F-reds:
Exactly as maoster says.Just donāt get too close to the vehicle in front. Itās like being pebble dashed!
Your just providing ammo for a deeper dave story.
the maoster:
The signs are invariably oblong in shape, therefore are advisory as opposed to legally binding.
Not invariably - in Lincolnshire recently they were red circles, and thus legally enforceable.
IndigoJo:
the maoster:
The signs are invariably oblong in shape, therefore are advisory as opposed to legally binding.Not invariably - in Lincolnshire recently they were red circles, and thus legally enforceable.
Fair point mate. Iirc that type were displayed on the recent A17 surface dressing bit? If I had nothing better to do Iād trawl around a bit and find out if the speed limit change had gone through Parliament, or if theyād just stuck them up hoping for the best.
I had them on my test last month in Manfield. Didnāt really know what to do so I slowed a little, the examiner didnāt mention it afterwards.
and if left out after the opening notice has expired it can be Ā£75 a day for each one in fines 
Radar19:
I had them on my test last month in Manfield. Didnāt really know what to do so I slowed a little, the examiner didnāt mention it afterwards.
When I did my test, instructor told me to obey them, and see what the examiner had to say.
Basically he said that theyād been down ages and I was fine to crack on.
PaulNowak:
Radar19:
I had them on my test last month in Manfield. Didnāt really know what to do so I slowed a little, the examiner didnāt mention it afterwards.When I did my test, instructor told me to obey them, and see what the examiner had to say.
Basically he said that theyād been down ages and I was fine to crack on.
I was doing 40 on a main a road when they said 20!
Iām more concerned about those signs that say ācats eyes removedā.
Iāve only ever seen them in Lincolnshire - do they have a thing about blinding cats there?
d4c24a:
and if left out after the opening notice has expired it can be Ā£75 a day for each one in fines
Interesting, that was mentioned on the cb today. It doesnāt bother the contractors around here though.
Speed limits are not enforceable unless put in place with a Traffic Regulation Order which can be a long costly process as all orders have to be consulted on and advertised. No highway authority would go through this process for what is essentially temporary works.
the maoster:
IndigoJo:
the maoster:
The signs are invariably oblong in shape, therefore are advisory as opposed to legally binding.Not invariably - in Lincolnshire recently they were red circles, and thus legally enforceable.
Fair point mate. Iirc that type were displayed on the recent A17 surface dressing bit? If I had nothing better to do Iād trawl around a bit and find out if the speed limit change had gone through Parliament, or if theyād just stuck them up hoping for the best.
About ten yrs ago they moved a speed limit change in Bangor and set up mobile speed cameras straight away. Caught loads of people especially coming out of town. Somebody checked on this and found they hadnāt changed the law took it to court and they had to refund all the fines and all the points were taken off.
PaulNowak:
Radar19:
I had them on my test last month in Manfield. Didnāt really know what to do so I slowed a little, the examiner didnāt mention it afterwards.When I did my test, instructor told me to obey them, and see what the examiner had to say.
Basically he said that theyād been down ages and I was fine to crack on.
He told you to obey them as he should. The Examiner would use his discretion as to whether you need to obey the speed limit or not as it is not mandatory.
If the chippings were still loose and you broke the limit you would not pass. If there were no loose chipping left then you should be ok.
Best to stick to all limit in these situations. If the examiner wanted you to go faster he would inform you.
albion1971:
PaulNowak:
Radar19:
I had them on my test last month in Manfield. Didnāt really know what to do so I slowed a little, the examiner didnāt mention it afterwards.When I did my test, instructor told me to obey them, and see what the examiner had to say.
Basically he said that theyād been down ages and I was fine to crack on.
He told you to obey them as he should. The Examiner would use his discretion as to whether you need to obey the speed limit or not as it is not mandatory.
If the chippings were still loose and you broke the limit you would not pass. If there were no loose chipping left then you should be ok.
Best to stick to all limit in these situations. If the examiner wanted you to go faster he would inform you.
Which is exactly what he did
axletramp:
Iām more concerned about those signs that say ācats eyes removedā.
Iāve only ever seen them in Lincolnshire - do they have a thing about blinding cats there?
PaulNowak:
Radar19:
I had them on my test last month in Manfield. Didnāt really know what to do so I slowed a little, the examiner didnāt mention it afterwards.When I did my test, instructor told me to obey them, and see what the examiner had to say.
Basically he said that theyād been down ages and I was fine to crack on.
I had that in my test too 20 temp limit in a 40. The examiner said to me āitās a good job theyāre well bedded in nowā which I took as her saying get on with it.
I sped up and she passed me.
mucker85:
axletramp:
Iām more concerned about those signs that say ācats eyes removedā.
Iāve only ever seen them in Lincolnshire - do they have a thing about blinding cats there?0
mucker85:
axletramp:
Iām more concerned about those signs that say ācats eyes removedā.
Iāve only ever seen them in Lincolnshire - do they have a thing about blinding cats there?0
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