ok COFFEE HERE U GO WITH YOUR OWN WORDS I’m prepared to be educated so tell us the criteria that makes you exempt from the restrictions on the DVLA. MEANS THEM LIPS WANT TO RUN AND CALL PEOPLE A LIAR OR POOR MEMORY U SUD HAVE ASKED WHAT HAPPEN TO A PETE THAT I WAS DRIVEING IT WAS NOT THE BIG ONE IT WAS A SMALLER ONE THAT I HAVE HERE AT RONSEAL!!!
NOW FOR THE GOOD PART if you wud have called the DVLA and asked in stood of saying i was a liar but u like to run them lips not noing what u are talking about but hey your just a trucker or is that a want a be anyway they wud have told u that as long as its not G.B reg that u can drive it. they wud have told u that if u bring one in from any where u can drive it but not G.B reg now if u need me to i can redo this so u can understand it better let me know
the only restriction is. that i can not drive anything that is G.B reg… now if its G.B reg i can not go over 3.5 tons. i hope u feel real dumb now for not asking instood of saying what u did.
i well understand about the switches i dont no how to keep up with some of them. only way i can stand in my pete thats in the states is in the sleeper. i havent had it long before comeing over here was just geting used to truning in it coz of the biger sleeper then i ever had i got thinking it wud be cool to own but then got to thinking how am i going to trun after the 1st time i got in it keeped thinking here comes the trl into the sleeper
carl1967:
ok COFFEE HERE U GO WITH YOUR OWN WORDS I’m prepared to be educated so tell us the criteria that makes you exempt from the restrictions on the DVLA. MEANS THEM LIPS WANT TO RUN AND CALL PEOPLE A LIAR OR POOR MEMORY U SUD HAVE ASKED WHAT HAPPEN TO A PETE THAT I WAS DRIVEING IT WAS NOT THE BIG ONE IT WAS A SMALLER ONE THAT I HAVE HERE AT RONSEAL!!!
NOW FOR THE GOOD PART if you wud have called the DVLA and asked in stood of saying i was a liar but u like to run them lips not noing what u are talking about but hey your just a trucker or is that a want a be anyway they wud have told u that as long as its not G.B reg that u can drive it. they wud have told u that if u bring one in from any where u can drive it but not G.B reg now if u need me to i can redo this so u can understand it better let me know
Which is exactly what it said in the link I provided earlier, so there was indeed no need to call them at all. It confirms the fact that if you want to be a resident and work over here driving a truck, then a licence from just about anywhere outside the EU is no good. I apologise, I didn’t realise you weren’t a resident and were only a visitor. How does the employment status work when you are a visitor and not a resident? I only ask because the exemption for non GB registered trucks only applies to visitors and not new residents and I didn’t think as a visitor you would be allowed to gain employment here. I presume you aren’t actually employed in the UK? Holland maybe?
Wouldn’t be able to pull a trailer of any length with a Pete in the UK anyway.
So you are either working illegally or not working. After all, Canada has reciprocal rights for driving but the UK only allow a certain amount of time as a visitor before you have to obtain a UK licence. I had to sit a driving test here to drive for more than 3 months, but my class 1 was accepted for the first 90 days so I didn’t need to trade it until the day of the driving test.
Coffee, you have got it right about the licence. You cannot trade a USA licence for a UK licence, and vice versa, but you may drive as a visitor.
I know of many horror stories about those who were duped into thinking they could work in the USA, only to find that their SI cards had “NOT PERMITTED TO WORK” all over them.
bobthedog:
Coffee, you have got it right about the licence. You cannot trade a USA licence for a UK licence, and vice versa, but you may drive as a visitor.
Yes, but as it states on the DVLA website, so no need to call them, for vehicles over 3.5 tonnes they must be non GB registered vehicles which you have brought into the country.
but u can drive it up till 1 yr where it is reg from or at!!! and for my CDL is the same way are u just dumb or what or u like to run your lips and not no what u are talking about i did the homw work how it can be done and am not going to go on about this any more if u cannt pick up the phone and call then i dont no what to tell u outside u dont no what u are talking about
see there go not im illegally or not work lmao you guys r to funny i have a national insurance numbercard and it come from homeland office and its 1 yr till i have to get a hgv from england AND I CAN DRIVE ANYTHING ON MY CDL A FROM THE STATES AS LONG AS IT IS NOT G.B REG yes but means im in the u.k and working and as long as it is not g.b reg i can drive it just like anyone eles that comes from out side of the u.k. and yes u can pull the u.k trailer with a pete but it not a good ideal as i found out for my self that why im driving a daf and no it not g.b reg thank god if it was i cudnt drive it on the u.k roads. oh and as for the pete that i was driveing over here is parked in the yard at where im staying so COFFEE plz come over and see it and i’ll show you all my paper work then u can get on trucknetuk.com and tell everyone that you dont no what your lips are saying high green sheffield,southyrshire,england pm me and i’ll give u my home add ok so that way i know your on your way to my house and i’ll have the paper work waiting on u if u want plz bring a friend so thay can see u dont no what u are talking about
Oh dear oh dear. There appears to be some self contradiction here. There also seems to be some lack of punctuation which makes the post tricky to read.
I think what you are trying to say is that you, as an American, can do pretty much what you like. Is that it? Not an exclusive idea where Americans are concerned, is it?
You see, if the commercial vehicle is not UK registered then it needs to be registered elsewhere. As far as I know, US registered vehicles are not allowed on UK roads. They certainly are not allowed to be used commercially. This Pete you are banging on about is also not able to pull a trailer of any length because of the overall length limits.
It makes me smile when you say about the tiny cabs over there. I have to duck to get in the Kenworth. I never had to do that in my Renault. And the Renault had an air clutch and synchro box. I admit that having a 72" sleeper is wonderful, and I quite like the narrow driving compartment because I can reach the passenger door in the KW. The Renault was 8" wide so I had to stretch.
But you have to understand, the UK has cities that have been around for a little longer than US cities. They were built for foot traffic and horses. US cities were built for egos so have bigger streets.
you are getting so upset about this whole thing, yet you have rather changed your tack. Drivers cannot come to the USA and get immigration paperwork allowing them to work, and they cannot drive commercial vehicles on a UK licence. The same is true in reverse. That was how this thread started and that was the whole point of it.
bobthedog:
Oh dear oh dear. There appears to be some self contradiction here. There also seems to be some lack of punctuation which makes the post tricky to read..
You ain’t kidding are you?
I think what you are trying to say is that you, as an American, can do pretty much what you like. Is that it? Not an exclusive idea where Americans are concerned, is it?
The Renault was 8" wide so I had to stretch.
I do hope you mean 8’ wide Bob, otherwise you’re a much skinnier git than I thought you were
My total admiration goes out to you, Coffee and Montana, I haven’t a clue what this bloke is on about. Perhaps I’ve been talking French too long.
Pardon the typo, David…and there was me talking about punctuation!
I am so glad I am not the only one who doesn’t quite follow. I suspect that he is suggesting that it is OK to work and drive on his US licence, but then he points out that you can’t drive commercially.
Then he suggests that he is there as a visitor, but says he is working.
Then there’s the point that he was driving his Pete on the M25, but that he can’t pull a trailer because of the vehicle weights.
I really don’t know, but I am glad he is over there instead of here. If he is driving on a US licence, and has been doing so for a while, then I can’t see as he could possibly have insurance.
But with all this self contradiction, I think he should move back to the states. There is a great job post coming up in November '08 which would suit the personality. He could join a very exclusive club of people who also say different things at different times.
bobthedog:
I really don’t know, but I am glad he is over there instead of here. If he is driving on a US licence, and has been doing so for a while, then I can’t see as he could possibly have insurance..
Me too, but I don’t want everyone to be too unkind, he may feel unwanted and decide to cross the Channel.
All you’ll hear, if he does cross, is “SHPEAK ENGLISH, BOY!!”
I
know of many horror stories about those who were duped into thinking they could work in the USA, only to find that their SI cards had “NOT PERMITTED TO WORK” all over them.
my social security card has "valid for work only with ins authorization "
propshaft
So tell me how you get authorised then.
do your own home work how to get authorised i didnt see anyone helping me when it came right down to it so why sud i tell u how to do it
and as for the other guy that pm me if it was me i wud see how many companys are down south and who owns them from the states and yes its ez to get one down there i got a ideal who it is get back to me and let me know if i was right
Firstly, you are not a shining example of the school systems where you came from. If you stay a little calmer then you will find that the posts will flow more freely and will be more coherent.
Next, I have no wish to work in the US. I have a Canadian SI number which entitles me to work here, and that is my concern.
Third, you may well be working there, driving a Daf because you found it wasn’t a good idea using a Pete. I neither know nor particularly care. I do know that even a 244" Pete would be completely illegal to pull anything longer than, say, a triaxle tipping trailer, and even then it would be tight.
Fourth. You say that it is easy to get a legal job in the USA. Come on then, enlighten us all. After all, there are several on here who either are, or have, worked there legally, and they have told us in the past how difficult it is.
Fifth. We all know how easy, or ez if you prefer, the UK is. Why do you think that 523000 UK born workers have quit the country in the past three years? It’s because they allow any old joe there to work, while doing nothing to asist those already there.
Finally, having made some enquiries, it appears that this licence issue is different in each state. Some will allow you 1 month, some 3, some as much as 6. They will not allow you to drive a commercial vehicle for any form of reward, but it is hinted that you can drive a U-haul truck.
So, if you have any information that can help any poor sap who would wish to move there, (given the current state of the country and the attitudes therein), please share it, the same way that the rest of us do.
If you don’t have any information, please just give it a rest.
1st who said it was a 244 wheel base pete?
2nd they is away to work in the states it mite same like its not but here is one of two i cannt belive that no one looked in to this find a trucking company that is also into building that req’s them to have a CDL all they got to say is hes a sub/builder if u cannt find a company let me know i can look in my box’s and come up with some names. or find a o/o thats got a truck reg in mexico i know this dont sound right but it will be ok got some names of o/o’s that has trucks and they r good people so if u need more help on this let me know maybe this weekend i can put other things on here mite be a little busy this weekend i got to go over to hull to see about shiping some things to the states
o forgot one of the states wud be oklahoma but not like okc go to a small town to do the paper work or down in southwest texas dont try like nyc ,dallas,and so make it a small town where its slow
But can’t you see that this is a fiddle? Don’t you see that this, given the general nervousness in America, is a surefire way to get deported and never allowed back?
What people need is an idea how to do it properly, as I try to give them ideas for coming here. They need to know that they can land and start working legally and without the fears that so many from the UK have had when they have worked in the US.
And this doesn’t answer what was asked. You say you can pull a trailer in the UK with a Peterbilt. A 244" is fairly short, yet is still the same length as a 6 wheeled rigid in the UK. Add a 45’ curtainsider to that and you will be at least 8’ overlength.
Also, there is no way a US CDL is valid to drive a heavy vehicle commercially, not even a light vehicle, in fact. Not legally, anyway. Coffee put the link up for all to see.