Spardo says: Worth remembering that the Nazis used to call the heroic French Resistance, terrorists.
This reminds us that so much that is going on in the region appears to be a matter of perception. The terrorism visited upon Israel last year was perceived to be a response to 76 years of Israeli state terrorism. (State terrorism was also a perception that led to the demise of Aparteid South Africa).
And yet again, we had the Oslo peace talks in 1993.
At that time peace was much closer than now.
Yassir Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin shook hands in front of Bill Clinton.
Even then Netanyahu, as the leader of the opposition, was against it.
Obviously, like Moshe Dyan, Netenyahu had/has the IDF military experience to know better and best.Better than Bill Clinton of all people.
In the case of the Jews they’ve suffered state terrorism directed against them since Roman times and before.The Holocaust was just another example of that.
It’s not state terrorism for them to return to the small patch of land where they came from and were forced out of to catastrophic effect.
It’s not apartheid to call that patch their own the Arabs have the rest of the whole Arabian expanse to do their own thing.
We all know that this argument is about the alliance of anti Semitic Socialism and radical Islam.From the Mufti to 1967 and '73 and to date.
As for Zimbabwe and South Africa not exactly a success story.
Your ideas are as credible as the idea that we ‘gave’ Israel to the Israelis.The truth is they had to fight us for it the same as they had to fight their Socialist backed hostile neighbours.
To the point of British troops allied with former Nartsi backed Arab forces to kill Jews, including their former Jewish Brigade comrades, for the crime of going home to their homeland after the experience of the Holocaust.The Palestinian Mufti backed Holocaust.
I’d like to think that the strange circumstances of my Father’s summary discharge from the army, in the middle of a return transport run from Trieste to Villach, in the aftermath of WW2, was because he refused the orders to be sent with his unit from Italy to ‘Palestine’ to fight Jews.Including his previous Jewish Brigade comrades.I also wonder if there were others who the Socialist Scum Atlee regime had to keep quiet with honourable discharges for refusing orders.
Bearing in mind that my Dad was well known for his vehement support of the Israeli cause.
As I said Golan and Gaza are an essential buffer for their defence at least for anyone who doesn’t want to see Israel overrun and it’s population massacred.
The more you contribute, Carryfast, the more you highlight the Kruger-Dunning effect.
I have no horse in the Israeli v Arab race so therefore no axe to grind. As a semi interested observer my thoughts go along these lines; you’ve got the hardest bloke in town, a real nasty piece of work in his own right. You approach him and give him a slap and maybe a couple of digs to the ribs. If you’re lucky he’ll just shake his head and ignore you. If you keep on then repeatedly keep poking him then you shouldn’t be surprised or go running to mummy when he gives you a massive hiding!
Moral of the story; if you can’t run with the big dogs then don’t pee up the big trees!
Just stating facts however inconvenient they might be for the anti Semitic apologists.
What!!? Where were the Romans when the c1920 Balfour Act was drawn up in British parliament? It’s quite clear that you’ve never been in 21st century Palestine. And as usual you immediately default to red-herring territory in Zimbabwe FFS 
It’s clear from the events of the post war Exodus of Jews to the fledgling Israeli state and British actions against it including the murder of Jewish refugees such as the Exodus ship’s crew and passengers that the Balfour Act was never enacted nor had any intention of being enacted.
I didn’t raise the issue of Zimbabwe etc.I was merely commenting on the so called issue of South African apartheid.So the Communist backed ANC and ZANU PF won that ended well.
Surely that should be Socialist anti-semitic apologists?
Exactly…‘What did the Romans ever do for us’ ?
Anti Semitic and Socialist goes without saying.
If only you knew what Semitic meant, but the insults fall flat with ignorance.
You’ll have to make allowances for those of us (ie normal people) who do not inhabit your trans-dimensional universe of self-created politics, religion, sociology, science, and of course, road transport; we are not likely to be fluent in all the nuances of Magratheanese.
Not that you’d be interested in having your assumption challenged, but here’s some stuffy academic geezer that would have a thing or two to say to you on the religion/socialism issue - But hey! Who needs learned academic researchers when we have you 
Lucas, E. (2023). Religion and the History of Socialism. In: Early British Socialism and the ‘Religion of the New Moral World’. Palgrave Studies in Utopianism. Palgrave Macmillan, Cham. Religion and the History of Socialism | SpringerLink
You sir, are a moron
Apartheid in South Africa is an established fact, your opinion is yours and it matters not. Israel is an apartheid state too. How do I know? Because, of all nations, SA brought the case to the ICJ and the ICJ ruled in favour.
Current estimates for the number of dead (or at least unaccounted for) in the Gaza strip are ~200,000. It’s obscene.
Ignorance is one thing: wilful partisanship is another.
Wilful partisanship by implication supporting the Mufti’s backing of the Holocaust, and the Soviet backed attacks on Israel in 1967 and '73.
So the IDF lays down its arms and leaves the Golan and Gaza and surrenders to the mercies of of its neighbours.
That’s what you want right ?.
Tell us what you think happens next.