IQ of the average lorry driver

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Uncle Albie:
We all know you do not need high IQ to become a lorry driver but what do you reckon the average lorry drivers IQ is?

In my view it is probably lower than average especially with the antics of some on the roads. Obviously all lorry drivers are not thick but as we see on this forum there tends to be more thick ones than bright ones.

And before you have a go at me I have driven lorries for many years but have a few more strings to my bow.

Also in my view standards have dropped in recent years or is that not the case?

Perhaps you’d like to produce a report comparing IQ to EQ amongst drivers.

IMO, if you can do your job well, you’re smart enough.

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Sorry but I don’t see the point of the question, what does it matter, and what relevance does your IQ have to being able to drive a truck? I’d suggest that if you can’t drive a truck you should be doing some tests with your GP to check you don’t have an impairment and should be in Rio at present! :wink: Yes you get some neanderthals that are drivers, but that doesn’t mean they have a low IQ at all, just as some who are a bit posh aren’t necessarily more intelligent, it just mean that their upbringings were different…

I personally envy the stupid, as ignorance is bliss! :grimacing:
Bugger, is that why I’m generally cheerful? :open_mouth:

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I’ve got a 1st class honours degree, yet 3 nights ago a 19 year old kid from the warehouse had to take my suzie lock off because I couldn’t work it out. At age 37, and having been driving for 20 years, I still have to say “never eat shredded wheat” to work out which way is west, and which way is east, and God help me if I’m heading south and need to work out which way is west. I can’t rotate the compass in my head very well, but some of the ‘thickos’ I’ve met seem not only to have this ability, but know every shortcut along their route. It’s sat-nav all the way for me (well, it’s always switched on anyway, just in case of the road closures). I’m an excellent diplomat, but one of the ‘thickos’ who’s only been driving for 20 years had to show me how to undo a stiff header tank filler cap by using a rocking motion and all his body weight. For all my education, had I been stuck in the middle of the dessert, I’d have died miserably stranded, and the thicko would have lived, and got the air conditioning to work. Who’s the thicko in that situation? Yes, a lot of lorry drivers read The Sun and believe everything that’s written in it, but they’re suddenly maths geniuses when they’ve been diddled £2 in their wages. Can I grasp the tacho regs? Not all of them, but there’s a bloke at work who could teach the stuff in his sleep, but you’d swear blind he’s a little retarded.

Intelligence is an abstract concept, and what is intelligent in one situation is a handicap in another. There’s also a lot of different types of intelligence, and IQ only measures the cognitive/spatial/logical type, not the emotional, inter-personal, kinesthetic, or artistic/musical. Think of David Beckham or Wayne Rooney - the blokes would bore you to death at a party with their lack of character, and seeming low intelligence. Yet their kinesthetic intelligence (being skilled at control and manipulation of objects using coordination and the body) is of the highest calibre.

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Another new poster that has to take his underpants off before you can here what he’s saying clearly… :unamused:
Bloody help if i didn’t use here, instead of hear.

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Enough said :grimacing:

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Uncle Albie:
We all know you do not need high IQ to become a lorry driver but what do you reckon the average lorry drivers IQ is?

In my view it is probably lower than average especially with the antics of some on the roads. Obviously all lorry drivers are not thick but as we see on this forum there tends to be more thick ones than bright ones.

And before you have a go at me I have driven lorries for many years but have a few more strings to my bow.

Also in my view standards have dropped in recent years or is that not the case?

Not sure about your bow stringing abilities but your post instantly made me assume you’re a ■■■■■■!

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Uncle Albie, of course it doesn’t take much intelligence to pass a test, nor does it take much to gain a CPC. However in order to make sense of the various restrictions and conditions applicable to HGV driving then the driver must have a modicum of IQ (even if he doesn’t have other strings to his bow)
I admit to knowing plenty of drivers who would be challenged competing with a monkey, on the other hand I have worked alongside university graduates with degrees in a wide variety of subjects. Many of my driver friends attended grammar schools and as such must have passed the 11plus (yes we are taking of a certain age here!)so presumably their IQ;s would tend to be above the average.
I think you are being insulting to the general, average, truck driver.

Also having a few more strings to your bow would make you a more competent archer not a more intelligent one.

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I think this is what’s called a humble brag. Boasting painted as something else

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ezydriver:
I’ve got a 1st class honours degree, yet 3 nights ago a 19 year old kid from the warehouse had to take my suzie lock off because I couldn’t work it out. At age 37, and having been driving for 20 years, I still have to say “never eat shredded wheat” to work out which way is west, and which way is east, and God help me if I’m heading south and need to work out which way is west. I can’t rotate the compass in my head very well, but some of the ‘thickos’ I’ve met seem not only to have this ability, but know every shortcut along their route. It’s sat-nav all the way for me (well, it’s always switched on anyway, just in case of the road closures). I’m an excellent diplomat, but one of the ‘thickos’ who’s only been driving for 20 years had to show me how to undo a stiff header tank filler cap by using a rocking motion and all his body weight. For all my education, had I been stuck in the middle of the dessert, I’d have died miserably stranded, and the thicko would have lived, and got the air conditioning to work. Who’s the thicko in that situation? Yes, a lot of lorry drivers read The Sun and believe everything that’s written in it, but they’re suddenly maths geniuses when they’ve been diddled £2 in their wages. Can I grasp the tacho regs? Not all of them, but there’s a bloke at work who could teach the stuff in his sleep, but you’d swear blind he’s a little retarded.

Intelligence is an abstract concept, and what is intelligent in one situation is a handicap in another. There’s also a lot of different types of intelligence, and IQ only measures the cognitive/spatial/logical type, not the emotional, inter-personal, kinesthetic, or artistic/musical. Think of David Beckham or Wayne Rooney - the blokes would bore you to death at a party with their lack of character, and seeming low intelligence. Yet their kinesthetic intelligence (being skilled at control and manipulation of objects using coordination and the body) is of the highest calibre.

This. Me personally have no other strings to my bow and nor do I want them. I love my job and that’s all that matters, never have I even thought about comparinh my intelligence to others because it’s a completely pointless waste of time.

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Probably come as no surprise but I was tested once and was shown to be at or above the 95th percentile level, my English let me down but my abstract problem solving skills was off the charts according to my tutor, I just loved them private lessons.

It’s all bollox really as everyone has their own unique talents the sort of mental ■■■■■■■■■■■■ involved sitting around solving puzzles in high IQ groups is boring.
Trucknet provides much more stimulation.

This was obviously before I passed me HGV test.

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Recently we seem to have a plethora of intellectual wannabee’s infiltrating our ranks.

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eagerbeaver:
Recently we seem to have a plethora of intellectual wannabee’s infiltrating our ranks.

Don’t tell em your name Pike! :smiley:

I actually thought it was more a cornucopia! :wink:

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Do I know the average IQ of a lorry driver? No.

Do I care? No.

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Evil8Beezle:

eagerbeaver:
Recently we seem to have a plethora of intellectual wannabee’s infiltrating our ranks.

Don’t tell em your name Pike! :smiley:

I actually thought it was more a cornucopia! :wink:

Corn u what, now it’s words like that send me to google and why my entries to Vanessa’s theological challenge are constantly rejected.
Although sending in rude sentences maybe another.

Edit: bugger it’s Philological, see what I mean.

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Uncle Albie:
I asked a perfectly legitimate question.
Looking at the replies so far seem to confirm I was correct.

Drive safely guys.

Seems so. [emoji57]

Sent from the ether.

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IQ and intelligence is all relative.
I worked with a guy at Halfords who was extremelly intelligent. Very high IQ but zero common sense. The sort of guy who’d live by torchlight for a night if a lightbulb blew rather than work out taking one from the spare room would be a better idea. He knew all sorts of high brow facts, big words and all the rest of it but he was a liability.
Having a high IQ does not automatically mean you are more intelligent.
Therefor the thinly disguised “truck drivers have low IQ” original post is flawed and pointless

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The-Snowman:
IQ and intelligence is all relative.
I worked with a guy at Halfords who was extremelly intelligent. Very high IQ but zero common sense. The sort of guy who’d live by torchlight for a night if a lightbulb blew rather than work out taking one from the spare room would be a better idea. He knew all sorts of high brow facts, big words and all the rest of it but he was a liability.
Having a high IQ does not automatically mean you are more intelligent.
Therefor the thinly disguised “truck drivers have low IQ” original post is flawed and pointless

^This guy gets it…

fredthered:

Uncle Albie:
I asked a perfectly legitimate question.
Looking at the replies so far seem to confirm I was correct.

Drive safely guys.

Seems so.

^This guy however…

…not so much.

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Reef:

The-Snowman:
IQ and intelligence is all relative.
I worked with a guy at Halfords who was extremelly intelligent. Very high IQ but zero common sense. The sort of guy who’d live by torchlight for a night if a lightbulb blew rather than work out taking one from the spare room would be a better idea. He knew all sorts of high brow facts, big words and all the rest of it but he was a liability.
Having a high IQ does not automatically mean you are more intelligent.
Therefor the thinly disguised “truck drivers have low IQ” original post is flawed and pointless

^This guy gets it…

fredthered:

Uncle Albie:
I asked a perfectly legitimate question.
Looking at the replies so far seem to confirm I was correct.

Drive safely guys.

Seems so.

^This guy however…

…not so much.

And this guy ^ seems to have ‘superior intelligence’ syndrome. [emoji15][emoji57]

Sent from the ether.

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Uncle Albie:
We all know you do not need high IQ to become a lorry driver but what do you reckon the average lorry drivers IQ is?

In my view it is probably lower than average especially with the antics of some on the roads. Obviously all lorry drivers are not thick but as we see on this forum there tends to be more thick ones than bright ones.

And before you have a go at me I have driven lorries for many years but have a few more strings to my bow.

Also in my view standards have dropped in recent years or is that not the case?

The way this statement is created and the generalisation of this statement clearly point to a low IQ.
Anybody with a higher than average IQ, would put a more clearer statement, and avoided genaralisation.
The statement of “having more strings on my bow” doesn’t mean anything without making clear what these will be.
You could be for example an very good shoe polisher, a top street sweeper, a top drain un-blocker.
This is just trying to be a troll, insult people, and willy waving all for the wrong reasons.

Yes, I have done for several jobs an IQ test, and score above 100, but it doesn’t mean anything when I cannot do my own shoes up.
I am fluent in 3 languages (degree) and speak several more, but it doesn’t help me when I can’t change a lightbulb.

Been in Transport for 38 years, in all different guises, and yes the new lorry drivers appear to be simpler, less thinking for theirselves.
But that is how the world has become, you don’t need to think for yourself.
I use to remember over a 1000 telephone numbers, I don’t do now, they are all in my phone.
Use to remember at least an 800-900 delivery addresses all over Europe and beyond, I don’t have to now, hey are either in my computer or in my sat nav.
It becomes pointless to gather all this information in your head, when there are easier and more reliable ways to do it.

Being clever is getting around in live on the easiest way possible, not to make it look smart.
People in work are not expected to be smart or clever, you have to follow the instructions from people who think they are smarter than you.
They aren’t, but they think so, to let them believe that shows that you are more cleverer than them, don’t fight the enemy, they will destroy theirselves.
The only time you are not clever, is the moment you THINK you know it all, and stop learning.
Everyday is a school day, and everybody and nobody is the teacher.

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fredthered:
And this guy ^ seems to have ‘superior intelligence’ syndrome.

Based on what exactly?

Not once have I claimed to be superior in anything let alone intelligence.