INITIAL Driver CPC - Module 4 questions

NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE)
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Here’s one I prepared earlier- at a fraction of the cost of the £980 that the DSA suppliers are asking

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chevmac:
Here’s one I prepared earlier- at a fraction of the cost

Are you willing to divulge how much ?

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For comparison…

OFFICIAL

HOME MADE

chevmac:

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ROG:

chevmac:
Here’s one I prepared earlier- at a fraction of the cost

Are you willing to divulge how much ?

Less than half price- built slightly wider but the DSA one is real small.
Got my first candidate training on it tomorrow so we will see

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chevmac:

ROG:

chevmac:
Here’s one I prepared earlier- at a fraction of the cost

Are you willing to divulge how much ?

Less than half price- built slightly wider but the DSA one is real small.
Got my first candidate training on it tomorrow so we will see

Hi chevmac, your version of the looks to be a much better piece of kit than the supposed ‘original.’ :grimacing: :smiley:

:laughing: There seems to be a fair choice of methods of securing a ROG inside that cage, but best use them all, just in case. :wink:

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It looks good - I should take delivery of the DSA version in the morning…

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I have just been informed that the examiners are not giving feedback for module 4 unlike they do for the practical driving test - how odd

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ROG:
I have just been informed that the examiners are not giving feedback for module 4 unlike they do for the practical driving test - how odd

Rog that has always been the case- the same applied for PCV module 4- the only debrief given is READ THE BOOK

That’s like failing the driving test and being told to go away and learn to drive in my opinion

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I have just been informed that the examiners are not giving feedback for module 4

Quite true. But this is how I deal with it.

  1. Explain to the trainee that it would be helpful to you, and potentially him, if you were to accompany the test.
  2. Make sure the trainee requests your presence on the test
  3. Listen carefully and make mental notes of any questions you want to query
  4. At the end of the test, ask the examiner for a minute of his time
  5. Clear up your queries. Do this by asking questions such as "when my trainee was asked xyz, he answered a b and c but you’ve marked him down. Could you help me and tell me what is was you were looking for please?
  6. Stay cool at all times. The examiner is free to discuss the test as it has already been cleared with the trainee.

I have followed this on virtually all tests from Sept 08 and it works provided you have a reasonable relationship with the examiner. I suggest all instructors follow this :laughing: :laughing:

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Peter Smythe:

I have just been informed that the examiners are not giving feedback for module 4

Quite true. But this is how I deal with it.

  1. Explain to the trainee that it would be helpful to you, and potentially him, if you were to accompany the test.
  2. Make sure the trainee requests your presence on the test
  3. Listen carefully and make mental notes of any questions you want to query
  4. At the end of the test, ask the examiner for a minute of his time
  5. Clear up your queries. Do this by asking questions such as "when my trainee was asked xyz, he answered a b and c but you’ve marked him down. Could you help me and tell me what is was you were looking for please?
  6. Stay cool at all times. The examiner is free to discuss the test as it has already been cleared with the trainee.

I have followed this on virtually all tests from Sept 08 and it works provided you have a reasonable relationship with the examiner. I suggest all instructors follow this :laughing: :laughing:

Peter your help on this is much appreciated but there are a few stumbling blocks that other instructors may encounter.

You will be the first to admit that having the tests taking place on your own site has to be a definate advantage

The feedback given by the examiner will depend on the individual test centre and the individual examiner( we all know some are more user friendly than others)

Like you I have delivered module 4 for PCV since it was first implimented and believe me the only feedback we were given was to read the book- this was the brief given to ALL EXAMINERS- some chose to stick to it, others may have not. I was told by one examiner that he could even not discuss the test questions with his colleague due to the fact he hadn’t done the course.

I hope we can all help each other when it comes to LGV - we all have the same aim for our trainees

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I have my first 2 candidates for module 4 Monday and Tuesday, I will post how I get on and any questions I can remember. LGV Culham has not yet done a module 4 so its a first for all.

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Try following my tips. There seems to be a bit of a trend for instructors not to be welcomed on these tests. The official DSA policy is that there is no reason why the instructor cannot be present but he will normally be asked to stand in one place so as not to present a H+S hazard and also to prevent him taking part in the test. I think that’s fair enough.
I am really concerned that instructors should have the opportunity to listen in on the test. With yours being the first at that particular centre, it’s up to you to start the correct trend.
Give it a go, for all our sakes, and let us know how you got on.
Very best of luck with both your candidates.
:laughing: :laughing:

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You will be the first to admit that having the tests taking place on your own site has to be a definate advantage

The feedback given by the examiner will depend on the individual test centre and the individual examiner( we all know some are more user friendly than others)

Like you I have delivered module 4 for PCV since it was first implimented and believe me the only feedback we were given was to read the book- this was the brief given to ALL EXAMINERS- some chose to stick to it, others may have not. I was told by one examiner that he could even not discuss the test questions with his colleague due to the fact he hadn’t done the course.

I hope we can all help each other when it comes to LGV - we all have the same aim for our trainees

Fully agree and understand the above - - but we must all stick to our guns and use the rights we have i.e accompany the test. Even if you can’t get a conversation at the end of the test, you will gain info as to the questions and the conduct of the test.

Of course, I have an advantage with having the test site - - - crap coffee for a fail!!! :laughing: :laughing:

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Peter Smythe:
crap coffee for a fail!!! :laughing: :laughing:

so does that say you can’t make good coffee :wink: for fails or is it that you use cheap coffee :wink: :wink: :stuck_out_tongue: and keep the good stuff under the counter :stuck_out_tongue: for the good one’s :wink:

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so does that say you can’t make good coffee for fails or is it that you use cheap coffee and keep the good stuff under the counter for the good one’s

Sorry can’t answer that because of Data Protection (always wanted to use that one!!!). Maybe I haven’t had enough practice making coffee for fails?? :laughing: :laughing:

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Our School has a great working relationship with the examiners so no problem standing in on the test. I must say i feel as though i am sending the candidates to test ill prepaired. I have tried to do all the correct things (including buying the DSA demonstration trolley) and teaching them the questions posted kindly by Peter. I don’t like all the secrets that surround this test. If any more questions are available i would love to have a look.

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Peter Smythe:

so does that say you can’t make good coffee for fails or is it that you use cheap coffee and keep the good stuff under the counter for the good one’s

Sorry can’t answer that because of Data Protection (always wanted to use that one!!!). Maybe I haven’t had enough practice making coffee for fails?? :laughing: :laughing:

Out of interest Peter, will your test centre be shown on the DSA stastics as a seperate test centre for results

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chevmac:
Out of interest Peter, will your test centre be shown on the DSA stastics as a seperate test centre for results

i would say yes cos he makes the very good coffee :stuck_out_tongue:

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delboytwo:

chevmac:
Out of interest Peter, will your test centre be shown on the DSA stastics as a seperate test centre for results

i would say yes cos he makes the very good coffee :stuck_out_tongue:

:smiley: :smiley:

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I will take the coffee to the test centre in the morning lol…