INITIAL Driver CPC - Module 4 questions

The DSA have stated that they will not be releasing the questions asked to trainees for THE INITIAL DRIVER CPC Module 4 test.

The Load Securing Demonstration Trolley (LSDT)

DSA TEST FORMATS - Module 4 test format is on pages 21 and 22

This thread is for instructors and trainees to post the questions that were asked on this test.

I will edit & add to this post all the questions posted to make a list that can be printed off.

THE QUESTIONS ASKED
Demonstrate to me how you would leave your cab when parked on a busy road.
(Loads of mirror, shoulder and 3 points of contact) BTW, could exit by n/s as an option
You have half a load of cages. Where abouts on the vehicle would you place them?
(Just forward of rear axle to ensure even load distribution)
Select the appropriate method of load restraint and demonstrate (on trolley) how you would use it. Then demonstrate how you would undo it.
(Load lock bar)
From inside the vehicle and outside, demonstrate the checks you would make on the vehicle before starting a shift.
(FULL walk round check) IMPORTANT you must show the examiner the tachograph calibration sticker and the speed limiter sticker or it is most likely to be a FAIL
You are returning from a European delivery. You have stopped for a comfort break at the French docks. Demonstrate the checks you would make on your vehicle before going through customs.
(THOROUGH checks in all cavities for illegal substances, immigrants. Check load space and under vehicle. Also roof)

asked 1 question about the fuel system

1 question about the height and length of vehicle

1 question how i would enter and exit the vehicle

A website has a section with ALL the questions - FLAIR

Hello,
If you go to the same document, on pages 178-186 chapter 10, it is called The Driver CPC Module 4 Practical Safety Demonstration Test, it might help pupils slightly, but as you said Rog, I have asked the DSA if they can tell us what questions will be asked, but there are no set questions, but say all the relevant information is in the Driver CPC - the Official DSA Guide for Professional Goods Vehicle Drivers, we have had one of these for a few months, and it does seem to have the information which is relevant, but as soon as one of our trainees takes their test I will post. Bye

fallingbostel:
as soon as one of our trainees takes their test I will post.

Thanks and say hello to hubby Eddie for me

Hello Rog, Just received our monthly mag from the DSA, and information about the Module 4 Practical Demonstration test, and information as to where to buy the Load Securing Demonstration Trolley, been in touch with the firm, and the item costs just over £1900 with VAT, but it does say that there is no formal requirements for training companies to buy these, but I think quite a few people will make something similar, as that is quite an amount of money. Bye

fallingbostel:
buy the Load Securing Demonstration Trolley, been in touch with the firm, and the item costs just over £1900 with VAT,

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

fallingbostel:
I think quite a few people will make something similar

Me too.

Actually, that’s not a bad addition to this thread…
To training companies - Have you made your own and what does it consist of :question: :question:

Pictures if possible please.
DATA ACADEMY should be able to post pictures cos he is good at that sort of thing…

It will be fun to see how the delivery drivers are going to secure the Load Security Demonstration Trolley onto their vehicles :laughing:

WALOB are the main manufacturer :stuck_out_tongue:

IM GOING TOO UNDERCUT AND MAKE ONE FOR 1895.99

This is the company making them for the DSA, as the DSA sent me an email with their website, and I got in touch with them, they sent me an email with a picture and prices and all the DSA specifications.

lindhurst.co.uk

fallingbostel:
they sent me an email with a picture

You have a PM (Private Message - top of the page)

ROG:

fallingbostel:
they sent me an email with a picture

You have a PM (Private Message - top of the page)

If you click on this link, go to page 17 of 33 and lo and behold a thing on purpose :stuck_out_tongue:

rec.uk.com/_uploads/document … -05-08.pdf

How many do you need?

fallingbostel:
Hello,
If you go to the same document, on pages 178-186 chapter 10, it is called The Driver CPC Module 4 Practical Safety Demonstration Test, it might help pupils slightly, but as you said Rog, I have asked the DSA if they can tell us what questions will be asked, but there are no set questions, but say all the relevant information is in the Driver CPC - the Official DSA Guide for Professional Goods Vehicle Drivers, we have had one of these for a few months, and it does seem to have the information which is relevant, but as soon as one of our trainees takes their test I will post. Bye

If the LGV is anything like the PCV, there are set questions. These consist of a clear grid with cutouts to mark scores on the sheet that is given to the person on test, after the test.

I have asked the DSA under the freedom of information act for the questions. I am still awaiting their reply - about another 10 days to go before they have to respond.

My link is even scarier if you read page 15 and 16.

There is no option to use a baseball bat on Bill :laughing:

As I said earlier.

WALOB

As I understand it, there will be 8 seperate banks of set questions for the examiner to chose from. Each individual bank will contain 5 parts. Out of the 8 banks of questions, 5 will involve the use of the demonstration trolley. It would be a great idea if all instructors listen in whilst module 4 is being conducted and within a short space of time we should be able to publish the full syllabus on this site.

The examiners do not allow instructors to listen in as the module 4 is being conducted as far as I know.

Smart Mart:
The examiners do not allow instructors to listen in as the module 4 is being conducted as far as I know.

That is the ‘official’ line … however… :wink: :wink:

The examiners do not allow instructors to listen in as the module 4 is being conducted as far as I know.

Yes, they do.

t is the ‘official’ line

No, it’s not.

The “official line” is that the instructor can be present for the duration of the test but may be requested to remain in one place (rather than walk round the vehicle with candidate and examiner). This is, supposedly, for health and safety reasons.

I have been “in” on over a dozen module 4 tests. No problem. Still don’t understand what the fuss is about :laughing: :laughing:

Peter Smythe:

The examiners do not allow instructors to listen in as the module 4 is being conducted as far as I know.

Yes, they do.

t is the ‘official’ line

No, it’s not.

The “official line” is that the instructor can be present for the duration of the test but may be requested to remain in one place (rather than walk round the vehicle with candidate and examiner). This is, supposedly, for health and safety reasons.

I have been “in” on over a dozen module 4 tests. No problem. Still don’t understand what the fuss is about :laughing: :laughing:

That may be the “official line”, but the instructor who asked to be present was told he couldn’t, at Peterborough!

That may be the “official line”, but the instructor who asked to be present was told he couldn’t, at Peterborough!

So complain immediately - before the cancer sets in. Provided the instructor stays in a position where he clearly isn’t taking part in the test and isn’t creating a health and safety issue, there shouldn’t be a problem. Stick to your guns. Examiners should not make up the rules as they go. STOP IT NOW! :laughing: :laughing:

Peter

You are correct, the examiner will advise the trainer/instructor where to stand for the duration of the test and provided this instruction is complied with there will be no issue with it

Tester

Found this on another post

Peter Smythe:
The questions were (not word for word)

Demonstrate to me how you would leave your cab when parked on a busy road.

(Loads of mirror, shoulder and 3 points of contact) BTW, could exit by n/s as an option

You have half a load of cages. Where abouts on the vehicle would you place them?

(Just forward of rear axle to ensure even load distribution)

Select the appropriate method of load restraint and demonstrate (on trolley) how you would use it. Then demonstrate how you would undo it.

(Load lock bar)

From inside the vehicle and outside, demonstrate the checks you would make on the vehicle before starting a shift.

(FULL walk round check)

You are returning from a European delivery. You have stopped for a comfort break at the French docks. Demonstrate the checks you would make on your vehicle before going through customs.

(THOROUGH checks in all cavities for illegal substances, immigrants. Check load space and under vehicle. Also roof)