Carryfast:
As I said the bar for a vote to give the country away to a bunch of closet Communists needs to be set a lot higher than to save it.That’s assuming it is actually even possible to accept the idea of a country voting itself out of existence.Especially when it means being ruled by zb’s like Juncker.
The latter of those being what I was referring to.But I guess you knew that.In which case a vote of more than 50% has removed the need for that question anyway.But since when did zb Bolsheviks ever give a zb about the democratic process anyway.In which case this is an issue about opposing ideologies and it probably isn’t ever going to be settled by voting as we’re seeing now with the remainers still refusing to give way.
All that ■■■■■■■■ is nothing whatsoever to do with what I caught you out on
You were whinging about one camp refusing to accept the decision a mere week after saying you would do the same thing.
Carryfast:
Which just leaves the question as to where you stand on the issue of Federation v Nation.Especially when the ‘Federation’ in question is based on the ideology of people like Altiero Spinelli.
It doesnt really just leave any question. Dont try to turn it around on me. You’re demanding one camp accept the decision and shut up about it simply because you got what you wanted and the vote went your way… Stop trying to talk your way out of it. You’d be the biggest mouthpiece going if the result had been remain
Evil8Beezle:
The-Snowman:
Carryfast:
As I said the bar for a vote to give the country away to a bunch of closet Communists needs to be set a lot higher than to save it.That’s assuming it is actually even possible to accept the idea of a country voting itself out of existence.Especially when it means being ruled by zb’s like Juncker.
The latter of those being what I was referring to.But I guess you knew that.In which case a vote of more than 50% has removed the need for that question anyway.But since when did zb Bolsheviks ever give a zb about the democratic process anyway.In which case this is an issue about opposing ideologies and it probably isn’t ever going to be settled by voting as we’re seeing now with the remainers still refusing to give way.
All that ■■■■■■■■ is nothing whatsoever to do with what I caught you out on
You were whinging about one one camp refusing to accept the decision a mere week after saying you would do the same thing.Carryfast:
Which just leaves the question as to where you stand on the issue of Federation v Nation.Especially when the ‘Federation’ in question is based on the ideology of people like Altiero Spinelli.It doesnt really just leave any question. You’re demanding one camp accept the decision and shut up about it simply because you got what you wanted and the vote went your way… Stop trying to talk your way out of it. You’d be the biggest mouthpiece going if the result had been remain
Which part of,‘is it even possible to accept the idea of the country voting itself out of existence’ and handing it over to a bunch of zb Bolsheviks, didn’t you understand.
In which case cut the bs and just answer the question as to where you actually stand on the question of Nation v Federation especially a Federation of the unarguable dictatorial vindictive Soviet nature of the one in question. 
the shocking thing that really shown up in this vote is how badly we have lost our citys in england, liverpool, manchester, london, it can be no coincidence there are such high numbers of people who were not born here that have populated themselves in many areas in the citys
we as drivers know what you will see from the cab window when you drive in different areas, any guesses what you will see when you drive through Tottenham ? a lot of bearded people in funny hats and thats just the women
keep on driving what other races will you find that seem to be the only people in those areas ?
this knock on effect with the euro lot flooding the work places all around the areas up north brought it home to so many people just what the hell is going on
labour ignored this along with so many people, they thought they could simply get away with branding anyone who complained as a racist or a bigot or small minded little englanders
labour is in bits now as how the hell is it going to win back the votes from all those northern areas that voted out ?
the mps in those areas do not represent there people anymore it was shown as the vote did not back up what the labour party were trying to pedle and they have seriously upset a lot of the northen people who say they will never vote labour again just like me, labour can not be trusted as if they got in they would want more eu, want to reverse what the people voted out for
as there all quiting there posts they should also stand down as mps in there areas where they got it wrong and were out of touch with there voters who they claimed they represented,
that would be real democracy in action
i was sick of seeing the Kinnocks and how well they have done out of the eu with nice earner jobs, and now the spoilt brat of a kid kinnock minor is trying his hand how the hell did he ever get a job as an mp ?
i can remember the passion Kinnock had in his battles with thatcher in pm questions all those years ago
that was when the labour party was fighting for the working man
now they fight for the citys and to promote migration ahead of there own working people
they have looked down on the workers and treated them with utter contempt and this result has shocked them down to there ■■■■■■■■
how on earth are labour ever going to make it up to all the people they branded small minded little Englanders
i hope when election day comes ukip use posters all around the north to remind the people of just what the labour lot had said about them as i hope the people never forget
If the vote had been to remain I would have accepted it,I would not have been happy - but I would have accepted it.
The-Snowman:
Carryfast:
As I said the bar for a vote to give the country away to a bunch of closet Communists needs to be set a lot higher than to save it.That’s assuming it is actually even possible to accept the idea of a country voting itself out of existence.Especially when it means being ruled by zb’s like Juncker.
The latter of those being what I was referring to.But I guess you knew that.In which case a vote of more than 50% has removed the need for that question anyway.But since when did zb Bolsheviks ever give a zb about the democratic process anyway.In which case this is an issue about opposing ideologies and it probably isn’t ever going to be settled by voting as we’re seeing now with the remainers still refusing to give way.
All that ■■■■■■■■ is nothing whatsoever to do with what I caught you out on
You were whinging about one camp refusing to accept the decision a mere week after saying you would do the same thing.Carryfast:
Which just leaves the question as to where you stand on the issue of Federation v Nation.Especially when the ‘Federation’ in question is based on the ideology of people like Altiero Spinelli.It doesnt really just leave any question. Dont try to turn it around on me. You’re demanding one camp accept the decision and shut up about it simply because you got what you wanted and the vote went your way… Stop trying to talk your way out of it. You’d be the biggest mouthpiece going if the result had been remain
do i take it that you didnt get your own way so have spent how many hours ? looking back through posts made trying to score a point ?
of course people who voted to stay in are going to cry and people who won are going to be jumping up and down its a fact of life just like a game of football there are winners and losers
some good losers and some bad losers
i know i certainly wouldn’t of been happy if the vote went the other way and we stayed in but then you would of been happy and told me to shut up moaning and accept it
so maybe the answer is to shut up moaning and accept it ?
Stanley Knife:
If the vote had been to remain I would have accepted it,I would not have been happy - but I would have accepted it.
As would most intelligent people, and there lays the problem!
desypete:
i wish to say a fond farewell to all the polish who are packing there bags as we type and to all the familys of other ethnics that now feel unwanted here i am sure as they pack up to leave we would want to thank them all for there contribution they have made to our welfare statei dont know how we will cope with the shortage of workers, who knows maybe the 2 million or more unemployed might get a job ? maybe zero hours contracts will have to go as firms will need staff full time instead of laying them off when its a the quiet time with no income ?
just how will it all pan out ? one thing is fur sure its not going to be any worse than it is right now for many people who have been born and bread here who might now get a fair bloody chance in there own country
Pete I know you enjoy a bit of fishing now and again, but the above really takes the biscuit. If you believed any of that actually will happen you are as daft as lights fella.
I think the only bit of truth in there is “making them FEEL unwelcome”.
I voted out too, but I’m not that deluded! There will be free movement of people from the EU, of that I’m sure.
But what do expect to change, is the way the UK is perceived by potential economic “refugees” from Africa. They might start claiming asylum somewhere else that might seem more friendly…
There is nothing wrong the multi culturalism of our cities. I don’t care what colour someone is, or if they are gay, or their religious leanings. They are part of our society and should be embraced as such!
F-reds:
desypete:
i wish to say a fond farewell to all the polish who are packing there bags as we type and to all the familys of other ethnics that now feel unwanted here i am sure as they pack up to leave we would want to thank them all for there contribution they have made to our welfare statei dont know how we will cope with the shortage of workers, who knows maybe the 2 million or more unemployed might get a job ? maybe zero hours contracts will have to go as firms will need staff full time instead of laying them off when its a the quiet time with no income ?
just how will it all pan out ? one thing is fur sure its not going to be any worse than it is right now for many people who have been born and bread here who might now get a fair bloody chance in there own countryPete I know you enjoy a bit of fishing now and again, but the above really takes the biscuit. If you believed any of that actually will happen you are as daft as lights fella.
I think the only bit of truth in there is “making them FEEL unwelcome”.
I voted out too, but I’m not that deluded! There will be free movement of people from the EU, of that I’m sure.
But what do expect to change, is the way the UK is perceived by potential economic “refugees” from Africa. They might start claiming asylum somewhere else that might seem more friendly…
There is nothing wrong the multi culturalism of our cities. I don’t care what colour someone is, or if they are gay, or their religious leanings. They are part of our society and should be embraced as such!
yes i am all for the multicultural thing, its great if you can see a white face in those areas they mix in so well with the rest of us in this country dont they ?
have a look at the regions that voted to remain in compared to the rest of the country that voted to leave. ask yourself how the hell can so few regions have so many more votes ? have a look at a map of england and see the colours that voted in compared to all those who voted out
the citys almost wiped out the rest of the country’s vote and yet again we would of been ruled by london like in the general election
for once people really did have a chance to stand up to the citys and there high numbers of eithnics and there bleeding hearts who want to carry on letting more and more in flooding even more and more areas
thankfully people stood up to stop it all
now we can go back to getting some balence again and most importantly putting our own people first in this country and there is nothing wrong or racist in having that view as you would put your own kids first your own familys first but when it comes to putting our own people first we have for to long been to worried about being labled a racist to have that view well that view was echoed all around the country you could hear people on the news all saying they dont want the emigration or there are to many over here
that is what the politicians dare not ever of taken on board as its not political correct but it just happens to be the truth its how many many people really did feel and were able to say it loud and clear
You’re a dinosaur.
The sooner you’re extinct the better I think.
Carryfast:
The-Snowman:
Carryfast:
As I said the bar for a vote to give the country away to a bunch of closet Communists needs to be set a lot higher than to save it.That’s assuming it is actually even possible to accept the idea of a country voting itself out of existence.Especially when it means being ruled by zb’s like Juncker.
The latter of those being what I was referring to.But I guess you knew that.In which case a vote of more than 50% has removed the need for that question anyway.But since when did zb Bolsheviks ever give a zb about the democratic process anyway.In which case this is an issue about opposing ideologies and it probably isn’t ever going to be settled by voting as we’re seeing now with the remainers still refusing to give way.
All that ■■■■■■■■ is nothing whatsoever to do with what I caught you out on
You were whinging about one one camp refusing to accept the decision a mere week after saying you would do the same thing.Carryfast:
Which just leaves the question as to where you stand on the issue of Federation v Nation.Especially when the ‘Federation’ in question is based on the ideology of people like Altiero Spinelli.It doesnt really just leave any question. You’re demanding one camp accept the decision and shut up about it simply because you got what you wanted and the vote went your way… Stop trying to talk your way out of it. You’d be the biggest mouthpiece going if the result had been remain
Which part of,‘is it even possible to accept the idea of the country voting itself out of existence’ and handing it over to a bunch of zb Bolsheviks, didn’t you understand.
You moaned about the inners not accepting the decision when you would do exactly the same. Its being a hypocrite. Nothing you can say to justify it will make a difference. Whatever your reasons are for thinking you are right re the result does not make what you said any less hypocritical
carryfast:
In which case cut the bs and just answer the question as to where you actually stand on the question of Nation v Federation especially a Federation of the unarguable dictatorial vindictive Soviet nature of the one in question.
Where I stand is irrelevent. It matters not a jot to the argument of you ■■■■■■■■ about the losing side still moaning.
desypete:
labour ignored this along with so many people, they thought they could simply get away with branding anyone who complained as a racist or a bigot or small minded little englanderslabour is in bits now as how the hell is it going to win back the votes from all those northern areas that voted out ?
the mps in those areas do not represent there people anymore it was shown as the vote did not back up what the labour party were trying to pedle and they have seriously upset a lot of the northen people who say they will never vote labour again just like me, labour can not be trusted as if they got in they would want more eu, want to reverse what the people voted out for
they have looked down on the workers and treated them with utter contempt and this result has shocked them down to there ■■■■■■■■how on earth are labour ever going to make it up to all the people they branded small minded little Englanders
i hope when election day comes ukip use posters all around the north to remind the people of just what the labour lot had said about them as i hope the people never forget
Well said couldn’t agree more. And to show the utter contempt Labour has for the democratic process and the people who voted for it David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, has requested the return of Parliament to stop this madness.
Stanley Knife:
desypete:
labour ignored this along with so many people, they thought they could simply get away with branding anyone who complained as a racist or a bigot or small minded little englanderslabour is in bits now as how the hell is it going to win back the votes from all those northern areas that voted out ?
the mps in those areas do not represent there people anymore it was shown as the vote did not back up what the labour party were trying to pedle and they have seriously upset a lot of the northen people who say they will never vote labour again just like me, labour can not be trusted as if they got in they would want more eu, want to reverse what the people voted out for
they have looked down on the workers and treated them with utter contempt and this result has shocked them down to there ■■■■■■■■how on earth are labour ever going to make it up to all the people they branded small minded little Englanders
i hope when election day comes ukip use posters all around the north to remind the people of just what the labour lot had said about them as i hope the people never forgetWell said couldn’t agree more. And to show the utter contempt Labour has for the democratic process and the people who voted for it David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, has requested the return of Parliament to stop this madness.
What a surprise Socialists acting like Socialists.On that note the Labour out vote has already been kicked in the teeth firstly by Corbyn not resigning and putting Kate Hoey in his place and the Conservative Leave MP’s backtracking on the immigration issue.The question for Winseer now is what odds would he reckon on the Leave vote never being implemented ?.
F-reds:
You’re a dinosaur.The sooner you’re extinct the better I think.
there is still life in this old dinosaur yet
i hope you can understand just how really happy and free i have felt since the result and i hope it eats you up to the point you wish i was dead again. this is indeed how wars start and how people who believe with real passion on there side what is right and wrong, both can not be right but what sorts it out ?
balance is what sorts it out give and take and in this country we are a very tolerant nation indeed we have given and given and given even to the point were we put others ahead of our own kind
i dont think the Irish or Scotland are any different from an Englishman who wants what is best for his own country yet for some reason it it seen as so so wrong if england wants to be england as its seen as racist instead of nationalism
should we not watch the football any more or shout out as loud as we can for England ? should we instead shout out loudly come on multicultural players ? so as we dont cause offence ?
desypete:
i hope you can understand just how really happy and free i have felt since the result and i hope it eats you up to the point you wish i was dead again.
You’re not going to feel so happy when you realise/find out that this vote won’t result in people being deported!
As from what I can gather, that’s what you seem to think is going to happen…
Predictably this creatures sticking his unwelcome oar into the referendum mix,angling for a second vote no less.It must be proving difficult,corporate ■■■■■ par excellence that he is,reconcilling his vast wealth with the knowledge of him being one of the most despised entities on earth today.
I dont know of many ex forces who wouldn’t be willing to stick a round between it’s eyes.Myself included.
desypete:
F-reds:
You’re a dinosaur.The sooner you’re extinct the better I think.
there is still life in this old dinosaur yet
i hope you can understand just how really happy and free i have felt since the result and i hope it eats you up to the point you wish i was dead again. this is indeed how wars start and how people who believe with real passion on there side what is right and wrong, both can not be right but what sorts it out ?
balance is what sorts it out give and take and in this country we are a very tolerant nation indeed we have given and given and given even to the point were we put others ahead of our own kind
i dont think the Irish or Scotland are any different from an Englishman who wants what is best for his own country yet for some reason it it seen as so so wrong if england wants to be england as its seen as racist instead of nationalismshould we not watch the football any more or shout out as loud as we can for England ? should we instead shout out loudly come on multicultural players ? so as we dont cause offence ?
You missed the point where I said I voted out too then
There is nothing wrong with feeling pride for your country, there is everything wrong with asking what someone who looks different to you, is doing in/for your country.
If there was any player in the English football team, born in another country, or from a different religion, I’d shout just as loudly for them if they felt English enough to play for their adopted country.
Like I said, you are a dinosaur, and it’s because of views like yours their is so much vitriol surrounding the result of this referendum.
Evil8Beezle:
desypete:
i hope you can understand just how really happy and free i have felt since the result and i hope it eats you up to the point you wish i was dead again.You’re not going to feel so happy when you realise/find out that this vote won’t result in people being deported!
As from what I can gather, that’s what you seem to think is going to happen…
Exactly Beeze, he’s just too daft to see it.
to serve MY COUNTRY & QUEEN.
To all those who wanted “IN”, hold your head in shame! We live in GREAT BRITAIN and NOT EU.
How many of you “IN’s” have a veterans, or Afghan, or Falklands, or, well, any medal? Not many I’ll bet, … actually probably NONE. Now stop all this carp and let’s rebuild OUR COUNTRY.
Rikki, please pin this and lock.