Why am I guessing that’s the view in Southern Italy not the Commy dominated North. 
On that note he obviously gets the idea of you hita us we hita you. 
youtube.com/watch?v=3hcmGG6VUsU
Or maybe not with the usual deliberate confusion between Nationalist and so called ‘right’.As for UKIP being a real Nationalist Party if only.
tommy t:
desypete:
fuse:
To be fair to Scotland they get free uni education free prescriptions free care in old age free car parking in hospital car parks the place is not full ,if I were in their place I would want out…mind you if they do leave then get into the socialist republic EU they may not be so keen about free movement .but that would soon have to change if they come out of the eu and not get the funds the eu pay to them they will have to make do with the handouts the goverment hands out instead of getting 2 sets of monies coming in
they will have to do like so many English councils have to do try to provide services with less and less money coming inthe government is not going to fund scotland free this or that while the rest of the uk has to pay that much is for sure and the scots voted to stay in knowing dam well there eu gravy train would be over.
hence i hope they do one of 2 things either get out and save us uk taxpayers a few quid and claim there much needed funds from the eu or stay in the uk and have to start living like the rest of us have had to live for the past so many yearsIf Sturgeon takes scotland out of the uk they should get FA from us nada nothing , and not even be able to keep the pound , because if it’s independence from the rest of the uk they want then they can have total independence that means financially too, just what they would do for a hospitals i dont know, and they would no longer be part of the uk, why should they get free health care and services ?
It’s nonsense.
There no way sturgeon will call a referendum just now.
She would need be tapped in the head.
They were going to Base an economy on oil.
The would be bust last year like Greece.
I don’t know what your winging about free health care and uni fees for.
Scotland has took the brunt of the torry cuts since the 80s.
Tories will never get in scotland to much hatred.
After Blair wars and madness labour isn’t an option.
Which has fuelled the fire for the idiot salmond and wee Jimmy cranky.
We all had the chance to vote whether by person, postal or proxy. We all had plenty of notice if you didn’t vote Tough! It was a democratic vote and that vote was to leave the shambles aka as the EU.
Ref Scotland well the sooner they go the better. They were always hell bent on leaving the Union no matter what so you can’t blame Brexit. It’s just come sooner They were using the referendum to their own advantage.
If / when they do go let’s be clear all concessions from England stops and they either form their own currency or use the Euro. They want to be in it that much , so if they go ,they go 110% All Scots that that work in England especially down south will then be effected.
SWEDISH BLUE:
'Yes Minister' Clip Gains New Found Fame After EU Referendum Brexit Vote | HuffPost UK Comedy
Think that Yes Minister/Prime Minister shows who really runs the country… not the MPs but civil servants in whitehall
24.06.2016 a young Brit wrote:
"Good morning. Things that have already happened today:
- The pound has plummeted to a 30 year low
- Japanese stock market has crashed 8% and suspended trading
- Comfirmation of another Scottish independence referendum
- Calls for an Irish reunification referendum
- Far-right nationalists across Europe now calling for referendums and the demise of the EU
- Hundreds of UK pension funds underwater
- FTSE is expected to open 10% down (the bankers knocked 8% off in the 2007 financial crash, so this is big)
- German DAX market expected to open 10% down
- HSBC is worth £10bn less since yesterday
- S&P has announced that UK now likely to lose its AAA credit rating
- In two hours (as of 7am) the UK economy has lost over £255bn, the equivalent of 40 years’ worth of EU contributions
- Our Prime Minister has resigned
- The UK has down slipped down to the 6th largest economy
Last time the markets fell like this, we had to spend £340bn to re-capitalise the banks. People have lost a fifth of their pension funds overnight. This is causing a complete bloodbath on the markets right now. If you voted Brexit, your savings are worth 31% less than they were yesterday.
And it’s not just about money (not that Brexiters couldn’t cope with a £190m net spend a week or anything) we are now looking at being solely governed by a party who want to rip up our worker’s rights and privatise our healthcare system. You thought Dave and Gideon were bad, you wait till Boris and Gove.
I know that FB is probably going to be a wall of text today from everyone weighing in their two cents and I’ve tried to stay out of all of that until now, but I am so, SO gutted that the older generation have chosen to limit MY generation’s future all because of your xenophobic, Little England mentality. A victory for paranoia, xenophobia, right-wing populism. Nigel “has his country back” and it’s in tatters".
P.S. Lets see how the business and stock exchange will react. The GBP lost 0,20p in Bulgarian market overnight. Next week is expected to be even worst, when uncertainty will be prolonged.
Dolph:
24.06.2016 a young Brit wrote:"Good morning. Things that have already happened today:
- The pound has plummeted to a 30 year low
- Japanese stock market has crashed 8% and suspended trading
- Comfirmation of another Scottish independence referendum
- Calls for an Irish reunification referendum
- Far-right nationalists across Europe now calling for referendums and the demise of the EU
- Hundreds of UK pension funds underwater
- FTSE is expected to open 10% down (the bankers knocked 8% off in the 2007 financial crash, so this is big)
- German DAX market expected to open 10% down
- HSBC is worth £10bn less since yesterday
- S&P has announced that UK now likely to lose its AAA credit rating
- In two hours (as of 7am) the UK economy has lost over £255bn, the equivalent of 40 years’ worth of EU contributions
- Our Prime Minister has resigned
- The UK has down slipped down to the 6th largest economy
Last time the markets fell like this, we had to spend £340bn to re-capitalise the banks. People have lost a fifth of their pension funds overnight. This is causing a complete bloodbath on the markets right now. If you voted Brexit, your savings are worth 31% less than they were yesterday.
And it’s not just about money (not that Brexiters couldn’t cope with a £190m net spend a week or anything) we are now looking at being solely governed by a party who want to rip up our worker’s rights and privatise our healthcare system. You thought Dave and Gideon were bad, you wait till Boris and Gove.
I know that FB is probably going to be a wall of text today from everyone weighing in their two cents and I’ve tried to stay out of all of that until now, but I am so, SO gutted that the older generation have chosen to limit MY generation’s future all because of your xenophobic, Little England mentality. A victory for paranoia, xenophobia, right-wing populism. Nigel “has his country back” and it’s in tatters".P.S. Lets see how the business and stock exchange will react. The GBP lost 0,20p in Bulgarian market overnight. Next week is expected to be even worst, when uncertainty will be prolonged.
That’s the socialist,commy,federalist version.
Now for the real version.
A bunch of EU dictators are subjecting us to economic sanctions for the crime of seceding from their Communist based zb pile.
The far ‘right’ you’ve described are actually anything but in being good for the indigenous working class of the European States.Not to mention the typical commy trick of calling Nationalist ■■■■ when ■■■■ is actually Socialist.You know the type of zb’s that Bulgaria supported in WW2.
As for the effects of our secession you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.Which in this case will hopefully result in smashing the zb EU and the power of dictatorial scumbags like zb Juncker. 
As for the young Brit obviously anything but in being an obviously Socialist zb wit who wants to hand their supposed country over to those with your ideas.Now like that zb it’s called democracy so zb off and deal with it and if you want to live in the non existent country of USE then live there and stop bothering us.
Having this Stewards Enquiry over the result must be getting on EVERYONE’S ■■■■.
Brexiteers didn’t sabotage the whole country.
Remainers who are resisting the result - are sabotaging the whole country right now. 
Without us being able to “smoothly get on with it” right now - all the downsides of Brexit are going to be realized, with none of the upsides that cannot come along until deeper into the shift to actually implement Brexit.
Right now, the Remainers seem to be supporting a “Chamberlain” type posture of our government - regardless of who it is.
We must NOT let “Diplomacy Fail” in our dealings with the EU. I even agree with the EU’s notion that we “need to Brexit as quickly as possible” by this point.
Standing in no-mans land is going to be harmful to everyone on the entire continent otherwise. 
Our government should have taken more notice of the people in this country that actually pay their full taxes - not those who are always pushing for more handouts, more tax offsets, and more slices of the pie they didn’t put enough into to start with.
robroy:
Listening to 5 Live this morning, I was amazed at the pomposity, and arrogance of those saying that the Brexit voters had not ‘‘thought things through’’ and did not fully understand the implications,… how [zb] patronising eh?
Some were calling for another referendum until the ‘right’ verdict came up. I reckon it’s them who have not ‘‘thought through’’ how democracy actually works.it is not keep voting on the same issues until they get the result that THEY want.
Same last year in Scotland. The no voters were called Scotlands shame.
Also like Cameron, fat eck resigned because his team lost. And they want another “one in a lifetime” referendum, until they win.
I am no fan of Cameron. Not at all.
But I am surprised at the double edged criticism of him at the moment. Let`s look at his current choices:
- Stay as P.M. As a supporter of “Remain” any negotiations he makes with EU will be subject to criticism from “Out” within his party and all of Parliament. He would be a leader without credibility and could hold no authority.
- Resign and walk immediately. He would be criticised as a coward, spoilt, selfish, etc and not supportive of the country at all.
- Resign and allow time for a re-election of new Tory party leader. What he has done of course. So he is now being criticised for both resigning AND for staying.
Guess he is now reaping the rewards of his victory in the last General Election. I seem to remember he was forced into promising this Referendum, because of fears of losing the Tory vote to UKIP? So his short term political gain has led to his own political demise. And we are soon to get a new Prime Minister, elected by Tory M.P.s and Tory party members. Well, maybe not very democratic, but its how our system works. The next General Election is due in 2020. I wonder what sort of country well be in then?? Will we already have been “out” for 2 years already? Doubtless there will now be predictions of doom and disaster as well as those of sunshine and unalloyed joy.
Gove & Boris dont seem to know what to do now. Well, it seems that Boris has decided that having won the vote hed better go somewhere quiet and make a few plans. Hes good at making speeches and "rallying the troops", but now hes gotta do some serious politics, will he be up to it? I hope he or at least some-one will start exit negotiations pretty ■■■■ quickly. Seems that those still in EU are wanting to get things donendusted quickly, and who can blame them? Our politics has badly affected their economies and they dont want any longer in limbo that necessary. I did think it would be many years of talks before we eventually left. Well I was wrong there. Loud noises are coming from EU politicians to get it all done quickly. We ARE an important market for other EU countries, but they are a united front against singleton us. (thats what the Eu UNION is after all)
With the half arsed leadership on display at the moment (yes from all parties) I am worried about our future.
Wish I took more of the optimistic views like Deeireland that its all one big adventure. Maybe I wouldnt then waste my Sunday morning pecking away at this keyboard.
Franglais:
I am no fan of Cameron. Not at all.
But I am surprised at the double edged criticism of him at the moment. Let`s look at his current choices:
- Stay as P.M. As a supporter of “Remain” any negotiations he makes with EU will be subject to criticism from “Out” within his party and all of Parliament. He would be a leader without credibility and could hold no authority.
- Resign and walk immediately. He would be criticised as a coward, spoilt, selfish, etc and not supportive of the country at all.
- Resign and allow time for a re-election of new Tory party leader. What he has done of course. So he is now being criticised for both resigning AND for staying.
Guess he is now reaping the rewards of his victory in the last General Election. I seem to remember he was forced into promising this Referendum, because of fears of losing the Tory vote to UKIP? So his short term political gain has led to his own political demise. And we are soon to get a new Prime Minister, elected by Tory M.P.s and Tory party members. Well, maybe not very democratic, but its how our system works. The next General Election is due in 2020. I wonder what sort of country well be in then?? Will we already have been “out” for 2 years already? Doubtless there will now be predictions of doom and disaster as well as those of sunshine and unalloyed joy.
Gove & Boris dont seem to know what to do now. Well, it seems that Boris has decided that having won the vote hed better go somewhere quiet and make a few plans. Hes good at making speeches and "rallying the troops", but now hes gotta do some serious politics, will he be up to it? I hope he or at least some-one will start exit negotiations pretty ■■■■ quickly. Seems that those still in EU are wanting to get things donendusted quickly, and who can blame them? Our politics has badly affected their economies and they dont want any longer in limbo that necessary. I did think it would be many years of talks before we eventually left. Well I was wrong there. Loud noises are coming from EU politicians to get it all done quickly. We ARE an important market for other EU countries, but they are a united front against singleton us. (thats what the Eu UNION is after all)
With the half arsed leadership on display at the moment (yes from all parties) I am worried about our future.
Wish I took more of the optimistic views like Deeireland that its all one big adventure. Maybe I wouldnt then waste my Sunday morning pecking away at this keyboard.
the only thing i can say about cameltoe sorry typing error there, i mean Cameron, is how he said we are not a nation of quitters and he isn’t a quitter
first thing he does when its not gone his way is to quit
noting more to say is there ?
I would be surprised if article 50 was ever instigated, it puts us in such a poor barganing position from the get go letting other countries deceide our exit.
Instead we send the EU our proposal for exit to speed up the process, they get what they want a ‘quicker withdrawl method’ and we get favourable terms.
The 1972 euro act is then repealed and jobs a good un and Britain can wade through the tons of EU crap we have had to put up with, keep those that work, amend some and destroy the rest.
Article 50 is not the only way to leave, imho.
Theres some irony in the EU wanting to speed up the exit process by using an untested, long winded act. But it favours them so understandable.
Cameron, as some have said, was damned if he did, damned if he didn’t.
He would have been deemed hypocritical to try and run the country through this leave strategy (whatever that may be) when his agenda was clearly to stay in, and after getting a bloody nose from the electorate it was obviously not going to happen.
So he done the honourable thing and resigned…and he is still getting flak.
I reckon a team of Boris PM and Gove as deputy, they led this campaign, let them take it further, at least they are 100% behind it, better than putting in some ‘policy mercenary’ just in there to further his political career.
I know some will say those two in power are not an ideal scenario, and that it is making the best of a bad job maybe, but I am not fooled by this ‘bufoon’ persona of Johnson like some. Make no mistake underneath that (self engineered) image (which incidentally cleverly on his part goes to endear him to many ) lies a very clever and intelligent man.
Let’s just get the ■■■■ out of this European gravytrain shambles club, break off all the negative connections, and salvage the posiitive ones with some political and diplomatic damage limitation, and get things on track, …the world is NOT going to end after the EU.
robroy:
I reckon a team of Boris PM and Gove as deputy, they led this campaign, let them take it further, at least they are 100% behind it, better than putting in some ‘policy mercenary’ just in there to further his political career.
Boris had said that he was “no outer” for a long time before this. Then he went away and had a little think, (couple of months ago) and decided to throw his weight behind the leave campaign because he saw it was his chance for a path to No. 10.
He has not been sincere in the slightest! It was pure political machinations.
How can you say he is “100% behind it”?
As you say, a very clever and intelligent man. Let’s hope so because he has now taken himself to a quiet place to work out just what the hell he is going to do now Leave has won.
And now Tim Farron (for those that don’t know, the Liberal leader who’s been hiding throughout the referendum) has come forward and said that the Liberal manifesto will be for Britain to re-join the EU if they win the next election. Funny how he’s not put his head above the parapet throughout this whole process and then gone with the populist policy.
Re exit negotiations:
When Cameron went to EU to get a better deal before the vote, he didnt get much to keep us there. That was asking his then colleagues and allies who wanted us to remain. Now we say were leaving. No ifs, no buts. EU leaders are no longer our buddies keen to hold us close. Hands up, who thinks were in a strong bargaining position? Do they in the EU want to trade with us? Yes, Im sure they do. At any price? I think not. Especially in the current mood.
They the EU have already got trade agreements with the rest of the world. We have to negotiate afresh with all those markets we previously had access to through the EU. Thatll take an army of civil servants. Except our present civil servants will be talking exit terms. So, never mind a shortage of drivers, we now need to employ more bureaucrats. Maybe many of you think Im being unnecessarily pessimistic? Well being an optimist I think thats the best way: foretell disaster, and either Im right or I`m pleasantly surprised. Win either way.
It’s like the end of Hamlet. Tim Farron as Fortinbras is just going to walk on stage when everyone else is dead and claim the kingdom.
The above shamelessly plagiarised from another site.
Looooo:
robroy:
I reckon a team of Boris PM and Gove as deputy, they led this campaign, let them take it further, at least they are 100% behind it, better than putting in some ‘policy mercenary’ just in there to further his political career.Boris had said that he was “no outer” for a long time before this. Then he went away and had a little think, (couple of months ago) and decided to throw his weight behind the leave campaign because he saw it was his chance for a path to No. 10.
He has not been sincere in the slightest! It was pure political machinations.
How can you say he is “100% behind it”?
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How? …Because I have expressed my own personal opinion based on my own interpretation of what I have seen, and the (admittedly little) that I actually in real terms know.
As you have just done.
Hope that helps.