Immigration hits all-time high

[winseer]

JeffA:
Rigged elections? Oh behave.

Proven Rigged, court-testable beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt - IF you can get the court time to view the evidence!

If you can’t be sold to - who’s fault is that though?

To someone neutral, I would suggest that in no mathematical sense can more votes be cast to beat someone into second place who in themselves has got more votes than any incumbent seeking re-election in history…

BUT if you allow previously illegal immigrants to have a legal vote, and by decree at that?

You can conjur up as many votes as you need to win any election anywhere in the world that has a connection to the internet to update the data when needed, so the desired candidate to be beaten always JUST loses…

They are trying it in Turkey with Erdogan’s re-election campaign too, but I suspect he’s a better player than Trump so will pull a rabbit out of the hat, and order that all overseas votes be discounted, like Belarus did in their election, widely expected to be won by some woman challenger in exile ffs…

The Rig worked in Brazil though. Didn’t work in Hungary, because Orban’s majority was too high to overtake.

If the Western voting system were NOT “Riggable”, then how come we don’t have a completely different set of people in power right now, and how come no one has changed their name to “None of the Above” to win ballots in this country even?

Has anyone noticed that the “spoiled ballot papers” - don’t seem to leave the electoral returning officer’s presence on the night now?

As soon as the original paper ballot is destroyed, we are led to believe that the electronic impulses that make up the “tabulation” are the only evidence that an election took place… Tamper with that “data” - and you can make up any number you want, that gives the population a “belieable” abeit faked result, where the unpopular candidate somehow “hangs on” when Establishment-Backed, but the popular candidate always “just loses” when they are due for demolition by the powers…

There will come a time when the “None of the Above” have had a bellyfull of it, try to vote to make a difference, realize their votes were looted or deleted, and then can either go quietly into the night, or rise up and make a proper difference, likely because life and death is involved, rather than a decent pay rise, or cheaper bills…

[jeffa]

Winseer:

JeffA:
Rigged elections? Oh behave.

Proven Rigged, court-testable beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt - IF you can get the court time to view the evidence!

If you can’t be sold to - who’s fault is that though?

To someone neutral, I would suggest that in no mathematical sense can more votes be cast to beat someone into second place who in themselves has got more votes than any incumbent seeking re-election in history…

BUT if you allow previously illegal immigrants to have a legal vote, and by decree at that?

You can conjur up as many votes as you need to win any election anywhere in the world that has a connection to the internet to update the data when needed, so the desired candidate to be beaten always JUST loses…

They are trying it in Turkey with Erdogan’s re-election campaign too, but I suspect he’s a better player than Trump so will pull a rabbit out of the hat, and order that all overseas votes be discounted, like Belarus did in their election, widely expected to be won by some woman challenger in exile ffs…

The Rig worked in Brazil though. Didn’t work in Hungary, because Orban’s majority was too high to overtake.

If the Western voting system were NOT “Riggable”, then how come we don’t have a completely different set of people in power right now, and how come no one has changed their name to “None of the Above” to win ballots in this country even?

Has anyone noticed that the “spoiled ballot papers” - don’t seem to leave the electoral returning officer’s presence on the night now?

As soon as the original paper ballot is destroyed, we are led to believe that the electronic impulses that make up the “tabulation” are the only evidence that an election took place… Tamper with that “data” - and you can make up any number you want, that gives the population a “belieable” abeit faked result, where the unpopular candidate somehow “hangs on” when Establishment-Backed, but the popular candidate always “just loses” when they are due for demolition by the powers…

There will come a time when the “None of the Above” have had a bellyfull of it, try to vote to make a difference, realize their votes were looted or deleted, and then can either go quietly into the night, or rise up and make a proper difference, likely because life and death is involved, rather than a decent pay rise, or cheaper bills…

Tested in court? You mean the 60 failed cases Trump brought that got thrown out? And why were the elections only rigged in states Trump lost?

Of course you can get 75 million votes and lose - if the other guy gets 85 million.

[carryfast]

Franglais:

Carryfast:

JeffA:
Brexit had every chance - ot was just a stupid idea.

Are we better off? No nrexit has cost us about 150 billion so far and knocks 4% off gdp every year.off

Btw, these million migrants arnt the ones coming by boats.

It’s only a stupid idea from the point of view
of the ideology of the anti nation state Collective.Which you obviously follow.
As for GDP remind me how much it dropped between 1972 and 2016.Together with the value of the pound.

UK GDP per capita didn`t drop between those years?
It rose, from $3,000 to $41,000.

Not so much a reminder for you maybe, more an eye-opener?

macrotrends.net/countries/G … ic-product

Your figures sound laughably suspect bearing in mind all the post 1972 years of low if not negative growth and the lower 1970’s population actually increases the per capita figure.
Also the fact that the swinging 60’s and even better early 70’s were turned into an IMF basket case by the late 1970’s and then things only got worse.Unsurprisingly with a trade balance with Europe turned into a massive trade deficit with the wholesale destruction of our manufacturing industry to the benefit of Euroland.
Oh and you obviously didn’t want to go there in the case of the 2.5 USD and 9 CHF to the pound.

[franglais]

Carryfast:
Your figures sound laughably suspect bearing in mind all the post 1972 years of low if not negative growth and the lower 1970’s population actually increases the per capita figure.

I make it 8 years of negative growth 1972 to 2020.

But OK, you don`t like The World Bank as a source of data for GDP.
So who do you suggest? What source are you using that refutes the figures given?

[carryfast]

Franglais:

Carryfast:
Your figures sound laughably suspect bearing in mind all the post 1972 years of low if not negative growth and the lower 1970’s population actually increases the per capita figure.

I make it 8 years of negative growth 1972 to 2020.

But OK, you don`t like The World Bank as a source of data for GDP.
So who do you suggest? What source are you using that refutes the figures given?

By your own admission 8 years of negative growth in addition to how many years of less than let’s say 1965-1972 ?.
Also not forgetting continuous austerity and recessions including an IMF bail out.
Also how do you explain the crash in the value of the pound since we joined the EUSSR scam.

[franglais]

Carryfast:

Franglais:

Carryfast:
Your figures sound laughably suspect bearing in mind all the post 1972 years of low if not negative growth and the lower 1970’s population actually increases the per capita figure.

I make it 8 years of negative growth 1972 to 2020.

But OK, you don`t like The World Bank as a source of data for GDP.
So who do you suggest? What source are you using that refutes the figures given?

By your own admission 8 years of negative growth in addition to how many years of less than let’s say 1965-1972 ?.
Also not forgetting continuous austerity and recessions including an IMF bail out.
Also how do you explain the crash in the value of the pound since we joined the EUSSR scam.

You set the parameters of 1972 to 2020. Now you are attempting your old trick of moving the goalposts with different years. No, I ain`t playing that silly game.

What is your source of data, then? You rejected The World Bank, but although asked have come with no alternative.
NB the voices in your head don`t count.

[carryfast]

Franglais:

Carryfast:

Franglais:

Carryfast:
Your figures sound laughably suspect bearing in mind all the post 1972 years of low if not negative growth and the lower 1970’s population actually increases the per capita figure.

I make it 8 years of negative growth 1972 to 2020.

But OK, you don`t like The World Bank as a source of data for GDP.
So who do you suggest? What source are you using that refutes the figures given?

By your own admission 8 years of negative growth in addition to how many years of less than let’s say 1965-1972 ?.
Also not forgetting continuous austerity and recessions including an IMF bail out.
Also how do you explain the crash in the value of the pound since we joined the EUSSR scam.

You set the parameters of 1972 to 2020. Now you are attempting your old trick of moving the goalposts with different years. No, I ain`t playing that silly game.

What is your source of data, then? You rejected The World Bank, but although asked have come with no alternative.
NB the voices in your head don`t count.

You’re the one who’s trying to make the case that EUSSR membership ( obviously 1973-2016 ) has been good for our economy.
Equally obviously you don’t want to get involved with inconvenient facts like economic growth and value of the pound 1973-2016 v pre membership years 1965-1972.
Bearing in mind all those years of economic stagnation and negative growth, including an IMF bailout and crash in the value of the pound.Even during all that the EUSSR politburo still dictated that we should be a net contributor to your Soviet style scam.

[jeffa]

It was more than an IMF bailout - the labour government had to follow the diktats of the free-market tory supporting IMF - which is why the country quickly reduced to the 5 million out of work in the 80s.

[mushroomman]

I see that Clare Mosely is back in the news again.

dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … ed-UK.html

[robroy]

mushroomman:
I see that Clare Mosely is back in the news again.

dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … ed-UK.html

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Use of pepper spray dragging people by the hair (or threatening to)

Mosely. …Wonder if she’s any relation, bit of a right/left wing conflict of interests there I reckon.

Ah well.at least another genuine poor needy oppressed refugee fleeing for his life from a war torn hell (illegally) entering our great country, has found a safe haven.
Wonder if he’s found a job .

[carryfast]

JeffA:
It was more than an IMF bailout - the labour government had to follow the diktats of the free-market tory supporting IMF - which is why the country quickly reduced to the 5 million out of work in the 80s.

That’s a poor attempt at rewriting history comrade.
What ‘actually’ happened was the all too correct predictions made here by the real Labour Party not the rabid Collectivist rabble who as you know ideologically don’t even recognize the idea of sovereign nation states.

youtu.be/wd7NzQgHLn8

So British jobs went to foreign workers in the EUSSR and with them our cash in the form of an unsustainable trade deficit just like open door immigration I tentionally over supplied the labour market.
So define ‘Labour’ Party.You obviously mean the Labour Party of POS scumbags Callaghan and Blair.As opposed to Nationalists without knowing it Benn and Shore.

[jeffa]

Nah, the tory plan was to turn the uk into a low wage sweatshop - and they did it. First destroy the unions, then ramp up unemployment by privatising, then make them happy to work for a lousy wage. Job done.

[carryfast]

JeffA:
Nah, the tory plan was to turn the uk into a low wage sweatshop - and they did it. First destroy the unions, then ramp up unemployment by privatising, then make them happy to work for a lousy wage. Job done.

The irony when you’re clearly defending the pro immigration Socialist no borders ideology.
So you think that the wholesale transfer of British industry to Euroland, including our automotive manufacturing industry, didn’t create unemployment.With the effective closure of Ford and GM in the UK.At least the sell out to PSA wrecking Opel’s gravy train for German workers was karma in that regard.
Remind me when the Group UB40 was formed and how and why it chose the name and under which government.
You also think that the Labour Party is an anti immigration Party and Blair fixed it all.
My bet is you aren’t old enough to have been working under Callaghan’s stinking regime or remember Wilson’s ghettoeisation of South and North London.Thatcher learnt everything she knew from those two muppets and their mate Heath.

[robroy]

The ‘Bubbles’ have the right idea,.we should take a leaf out of their book.
theguardian.com/world/2023/ … um-seekers

[franglais]

robroy:
The ‘Bubbles’ have the right idea,.we should take a leaf out of their book.
theguardian.com/world/2023/ … um-seekers

Putting a group of 12, including kids and a 6month old baby adrift on a raft.

Not exactly the “fit young men of fighting age” you normally go on about…
But Hey! Just the kind of guy you are I guess.

Start with the weak ones and then go after the others?

[carryfast]

Franglais:

robroy:
The ‘Bubbles’ have the right idea,.we should take a leaf out of their book.
theguardian.com/world/2023/ … um-seekers

Putting a group of 12, including kids and a 6month old baby adrift on a raft.

Not exactly the “fit young men of fighting age” you normally go on about…
But Hey! Just the kind of guy you are I guess.

Start with the weak ones and then go after the others?

Why put themselves in supposed danger at Sea to get to Greece what’s wrong with staying on the African continent where they originated ?.

[robroy]

Franglais:

robroy:
The ‘Bubbles’ have the right idea,.we should take a leaf out of their book.
theguardian.com/world/2023/ … um-seekers

Putting a group of 12, including kids and a 6month old baby adrift on a raft.

Not exactly the “fit young men of fighting age” you normally go on about…
But Hey! Just the kind of guy you are I guess.

Start with the weak ones and then go after the others?

As usual Franglais swallows and repeats all the official b/s true to form.
But hey just the type of guy you are I guess.

Innit amazing that the majority of footage photos etc show just that, …young men of fighting age, but as if by magic the day they are recorded as taking a hard line there are miraculously babies reported to be among them…no disabled people for good measure ?
What about a couple of blind amputees?..nuns? orphans?

[robroy]

Carryfast:

Franglais:

robroy:
The ‘Bubbles’ have the right idea,.we should take a leaf out of their book.
theguardian.com/world/2023/ … um-seekers

Putting a group of 12, including kids and a 6month old baby adrift on a raft.

Not exactly the “fit young men of fighting age” you normally go on about…
But Hey! Just the kind of guy you are I guess.

Start with the weak ones and then go after the others?

Why put themselves in supposed danger at Sea to get to Greece what’s wrong with staying on the African continent where they originated ?.

Part of the journey to cross numerous other countries to get to the UK?

[carryfast]

robroy:
Part of the journey to cross numerous other countries to get to the UK?

After risking crossing the channel in a dinghy.Obviously not wanted in the North African tourist destinations.Franglais is obviously as usual being laughably selective in that regard.

[franglais]

robroy:

Franglais:

robroy:
The ‘Bubbles’ have the right idea,.we should take a leaf out of their book.
theguardian.com/world/2023/ … um-seekers

Putting a group of 12, including kids and a 6month old baby adrift on a raft.

Not exactly the “fit young men of fighting age” you normally go on about…
But Hey! Just the kind of guy you are I guess.

Start with the weak ones and then go after the others?

As usual Franglais swallows and repeats all the official b/s true to form.
But hey just the type of guy you are I guess.

Innit amazing that the majority of footage photos etc show just that, …young men of fighting age, but as if by magic the day they are recorded as taking a hard line there are miraculously babies reported to be among them…no disabled people for good measure ?
What about a couple of blind amputees?..nuns? orphans?

I am only using the sources in the link you put up.

Or should we be guessing which parts of a story you think are true, and ignore the bits you think are false? Maybe you could supply some sort of guide to that in the future to stop us all guessing?

Do you see mainly videos of young men? Yep, I expect so.
Mainly in the UK we will see those crossing the channel.
This is about those arriving in their first European country. It isn`t clear where they had arrived from is it?
This is about those including children and a baby being taken from dry land and taken out to sea.

Mainly young men in videos? Yes, I expect so.
This case? Your case? No.

Lemme guess,
robroy » 26 Mar 2023, 12:18…I haven’t read right through the thread yet,
robroy » 29 Apr 2023, 11:32…You see this is why I should actually bother my arse to read your links,
will soon be joined by a post saying that in future you will read your own links?