Immigration hits all-time high

[robroy]

Franglais:

robroy:
Nobody would ever put their job on the line by the sacrifice of resignation, especially an intelligent intellectual like Cameron…, and especially one in THE top job at the top of his tree, if they were not presuming absolute surity that they were on to a cast iron dead cert with their plan .

But Cameron thought his job, and his party was already on the line.
UKIP were taking some of the Tory vote, and there were rumblings that some MPs might go over to them.
He needed to promise that referendum to keep the Tories together, rather than from any concern for democracy or the country.
He believed Brexit was a bad idea for the country, but started it all off!

Having given in to the right wing of the party once, all PMs since him have had to pander to the minority wing of the party the ERG. They are not about the best for our country but about what is best for a small proportion of the country.
Oh! And what is best for a few others of course. Putin`s mates who donate to the Tory party and throw boozy parties, economic migrant Murdoch, and other various party donors and helpers.

The way it has gone the Tories of today bear no resemblance to the party of McMillan, nor even that of Thatcher. They talk of her, but I doubt a single one of the present Cabinet would get a start in her Gov.
I have little time for her politics, but I feel she did believe in what she was doing. The present lot are charlatans and incompetents.
Not a single principle amongst them, saying anything to get a vote*.

*And so back to Johnson and how he wins votes.

Ok but we all have different or at least varilying opinions about the same situation.
I will not pretend to have the same depth of interest or fascination in all this stuff as you do, nor do I have any interest or notion to try and compete with your knowledge of it all… but that does not prevent me from having an opinion on it , and basing that opinion on what I see, hear, and how I interpet stuff.
However by the same token what you have stated is also just your personal opinion and take on it, .and can be open to contradiction,.so we would be here all day discussing it.

As you say the Tories bear little, or no resemblance to their 80s government, but I would say there is an even bigger gap between the modern Labour Party, and it’s original concept, values, and loyalties…especially to common working blokes like me and you.
Or are you also going to refute that…surely not.

[franglais]

robroy:

Franglais:

robroy:
Nobody would ever put their job on the line by the sacrifice of resignation, especially an intelligent intellectual like Cameron…, and especially one in THE top job at the top of his tree, if they were not presuming absolute surity that they were on to a cast iron dead cert with their plan .

But Cameron thought his job, and his party was already on the line.
UKIP were taking some of the Tory vote, and there were rumblings that some MPs might go over to them.
He needed to promise that referendum to keep the Tories together, rather than from any concern for democracy or the country.
He believed Brexit was a bad idea for the country, but started it all off!

Having given in to the right wing of the party once, all PMs since him have had to pander to the minority wing of the party the ERG. They are not about the best for our country but about what is best for a small proportion of the country.
Oh! And what is best for a few others of course. Putin`s mates who donate to the Tory party and throw boozy parties, economic migrant Murdoch, and other various party donors and helpers.

The way it has gone the Tories of today bear no resemblance to the party of McMillan, nor even that of Thatcher. They talk of her, but I doubt a single one of the present Cabinet would get a start in her Gov.
I have little time for her politics, but I feel she did believe in what she was doing. The present lot are charlatans and incompetents.
Not a single principle amongst them, saying anything to get a vote*.

*And so back to Johnson and how he wins votes.

Ok but we all have different or at least varilying opinions about the same situation.
I will not pretend to have the same depth of interest or fascination in all this stuff as you do, nor do I have any interest or notion to try and compete with your knowledge of it all… but that does not prevent me from having an opinion on it , and basing that opinion on what I see, hear, and how I interpet stuff.
However by the same token what you have stated is also just your personal opinion and take on it, .and can be open to contradiction,.so we would be here all day discussing it.

As you say the Tories bear little, or no resemblance to their 80s government, but I would say there is an even bigger gap between the modern Labour Party, and it’s original concept, values, and loyalties…especially to common working blokes like me and you.
Or are you also going to refute that…surely not.

Todays Tories arent of McMillan nor are Today`s Labour of Wilson!

But I do say that todays Labour are more for us, normal blokes than todays Tories are.
Johnson has said anything to get his votes. And delivered? Not a lot.
Truss was a disaster.
Sunak seems more reasonable, but he still favours tax regimes for the wealthy, and for non-doms, and for the companies owned by foreign investors.

The whole party is for regressive taxation, whereas Labour are more for taxing the richer more than the poorer ones.
The spin they and their tame media puts on taxes is still fooling many people. They put emphasis on cutting income taxes, which disproportionately benefit the rich more than the poor.
None of us want to pay more than we have to, but surely we all want schools and hospitals?
Less tax equals less amenities. But those who are richest pay a lot less tax so can make money even after paying for private education and health. The rest of us put up with lower standards.

It really is simple. The Tories of today aren`t the Caring Conservatives of yesterday, they are the Nasty Party

[robroy]

^^^^
The Tory Govt …Ok,.I’ve got to admit I’m disillusioned with them, I could tolerate Johnson, if only for his maverick approach, even though you seem to think I’m his no1 fan.

Truss was a ■■■■ joke,.I went right off her in an interview when she said, ‘The first thing I want to do is DEAL with the Unions’, presumably in a negative way, I saw her as a pound shop Maggie Thatch,.where as she saw herself as her successor.

Sunak the billionaire? Too out of touch with how normal people struggle with life.

I come from a very Labour orientated family, but as ever I kinda made my own mind up about them a while ago,.they also have lost their way.

I’ve said before I would be more apt to vote for them if their female deputy was the leader, who’s name escapes me right now ,.(as I’ve said I don’t share your enthusiasm for this stuff) but she appears to have ‘come up through the ranks’ in general life, so presumably would ‘rule’ with empathy from experience…not so sure about Starmer, just got him down as another MP with all the usual bs and baggage.
Ain’t got a didgeri who I’ll be voting for, if anybody this next time, but under no illusions that who ever it is will make a ■■■■ of difference.

Future of and the effects concerning Brexit?
Bored totally ■■■■ less with it tbh,.and we’ve discussed it to death already.

[narc]

Franglais thinks that after joining whatever it was called back in the early 1970’s that leaving or withdrawing will have taken only a few months? I mean we have not even properly left, we have not even stopped funding them. Yet here is this silly little man asking how it is going? Is that a trick question? Have you missed the entire planet is in some kind of financial melt down after the china virus fiasco?

Sorry but obviously this guy is ill with all of this brexit thing, I had heard that mental illness had increased since covid but the brexit thing really has caused many of these remainiacs to completely lose the plot.

It’s sad to watch.

[franglais]

Narc:
Franglais thinks that after joining whatever it was called back in the early 1970’s that leaving or withdrawing will have taken only a few months? I mean we have not even properly left, we have not even stopped funding them. Yet here is this silly little man asking how it is going? Is that a trick question? Have you missed the entire planet is in some kind of financial melt down after the china virus fiasco?

Sorry but obviously this guy is ill with all of this brexit thing, I had heard that mental illness had increased since covid but the brexit thing really has caused many of these remainiacs to completely lose the plot.

It’s sad to watch.

I havent missed that the rest of the G7 and the EU have got back to pre Covid levels......we havent.

And your “silly little man” and “mental illness” jibs merely underline the lack of any rational argument you possess.

[franglais]

robroy:
^^^^
The Tory Govt …Ok,.I’ve got to admit I’m disillusioned with them, I could tolerate Johnson, if only for his maverick approach, even though you seem to think I’m his no1 fan.

Truss was a [zb] joke,.I went right off her in an interview when she said, ‘The first thing I want to do is DEAL with the Unions’, presumably in a negative way, I saw her as a pound shop Maggie Thatch,.where as she saw herself as her successor.

Sunak the billionaire? Too out of touch with how normal people struggle with life.

I come from a very Labour orientated family, but as ever I kinda made my own mind up about them a while ago,.they also have lost their way.

I’ve said before I would be more apt to vote for them if their female deputy was the leader, who’s name escapes me right now ,.(as I’ve said I don’t share your enthusiasm for this stuff) but she appears to have ‘come up through the ranks’ in general life, so presumably would ‘rule’ with empathy from experience…not so sure about Starmer, just got him down as another MP with all the usual bs and baggage.
Ain’t got a didgeri who I’ll be voting for, if anybody this next time, but under no illusions that who ever it is will make a [zb] of difference.

Future of and the effects concerning Brexit?
Bored totally [zb] less with it tbh,.and we’ve discussed it to death already.

Johnson Eton.
Starmer, state school and son of a tool-maker and a nurse. Clever enough to become a Lawyer.
Johnson well connected enough to get a job with his dad`s mate as a journalist. And stupid enough to get the sack for fabricating stories.
Starmer did some pro bono work. Johnson complained that his quarter million quid pay at hos second job was “chicken feed”.

I do agree that Angela Rayner has a lot going for her too. Had a few knocks, but is where she is, because of her own efforts.

[narc]

Franglais:
Sorry but obviously this guy is ill with all of this brexit thing, I had heard that mental illness had increased since covid but the brexit thing really has caused many of these remainiacs to completely lose the plot.

It’s sad to watch.

I havent missed that the rest of the G7 and the EU have got back to pre Covid levels......we havent.

And your “silly little man” and “mental illness” jibs merely underline the lack of any rational argument you possess.
[/quote]
You took that a lot better than I expected to be honest, however I would contact your GP and ask for some help , I have spent a bit of time reading your replies and can honestly say you have OCD or obsessive behavioral problems .It’s never easy to admit obsessive behavioral problems. It is however easy to slip into condescending patronizing and narcissistic mannerisms without knowing it.

Good luck with it all.

[franglais]

Narc:
You took that a lot better than I expected to be honest, however I would contact your GP and ask for some help , I have spent a bit of time reading your replies and can honestly say you have OCD or obsessive behavioral problems .It’s never easy to admit obsessive behavioral problems. It is however easy to slip into condescending patronizing and narcissistic mannerisms without knowing it.

Well I do thank you for the free diagnosis.

It is not often we at TNUK are graced with a fully qualified psychiatrist who is able to make such judgments on the basis of a few posts on the www. Clearly you are very talented.
Thank you again for imparting your wisdom without being at all pompous.

[tonkaboy]

TonkaBoy:
Franglais, lover of the EU,
Multilingual and cosmopolitan too,
Brexit might have caused a boo-hoo,
And most of TN really dont give a pooh.

[Franglais]
I’m thinking you need to set that one to the tune of Ra-ra-Rasputin by Boney M, You’ll need to tweak it a little to make it …
[\Franglais]

Ra-ra rasputin by boney.m (good tune ta)

Franglais lover …

Verse 1:
Franglais, lover of the EU,
Multilingual and cosmopolitan too,
Brexit might have caused a boo-hoo,
But TN doesn’t give a ■■■-■■■.

Chorus:
Ra ra Franglais, lover of diversity,
In Brussels or Paris, Franglais is the bee’s knees,
Multilingual and oh so free,
Franglais is the way to be.

Verse 2:
From London to Berlin, Franglais is the talk,
From the Channel to the Rhine, Franglais takes a walk,
Brexit may have caused some shock,
But Franglais remains nonchalant.

Chorus:
Ra ra Franglais, lover of diversity,
In Brussels or Paris, Franglais is the bee’s knees,
Multilingual and oh so free,
Franglais is the way to be.

Verse 3:
With Franglais, there’s no language barrier,
Je parle français and I speak English clearer,
Franglais is the perfect carrier,
Of all that’s good and cosmopolitan here.

Chorus:
Ra ra Franglais, lover of diversity,
In Brussels or Paris, Franglais is the bee’s knees,
Multilingual and oh so free,
Franglais is the way to be.

hehehehehe

[tonkaboy]

Brexit has never really been given a chance… due to many reasons…

Are we better off today ? It will take time, and some decent political leaders and none are about yet, but at least once they step forward we are ready to move forward…

And instead of buying boats to house illegal people entering UK, should of invested into UK companies to build or modify existing ships, like all the cruise liners being scrapped since covid, but most political parties are also into imediate results for votes, rather than planning for the future… one huge problem… like the failed HS2 joke… 30 mins quicker link north and south… yes we really needed that didn’t we, would of been better spent investing in existing infrastructure in the North… it needs it ! Like some of the motorways… M62 out of Hull comes to mind… will they ever resurface it ?

Mind you put the boats on the humber, and allow those on the boat/hotel/prison to work on the motorway and pay for their rooms

And as the EU was the cause of Hulls fishing being decimated, a reason to leave on its own…

Same as wreaking farming in UK with all their subs to not grow crops… the EU was and is a wreaking ball for countries within it, so they become dependant on the EU…

And why glad we are out !

[carryfast]

JeffA:

Carryfast:

JeffA:
Just to introduce a pertinent fact - the vast bulk of the million migrants are non-eu.

Non EU immigration backed and supported by the EU.To the point of threatening the East Euro states like Hungary with economic sanctions if they refused to toe the EU line.
Agreed the UK government had been just as bad running a two tier selective system of cheap ‘Commonwealth’ labour immigration is fine.
But a reverse racist closed door policy applies to us wrong colour and high wage expectation Anglos moving around/between our own colonies.

How is a bloke coming from hong kong supported by the EU?

Another fact - these million migrants are not the ones in the boats.

Firstly it’s immigrants not migrants.
Chinese are all under the Asian immigration sector like India and if it ain’t that it’s generally Middle East or African illegal or legal.
So remind us why did the EU threaten the Visigrad group with economic sanctions over refusing EU immigration quotas from ‘non’ EU states which obviously includes so called’ asylum’ seekers’ who could easily find ‘safe’ havens without leaving Asia or Africa ?.

[franglais]

TonkaBoy:

TonkaBoy:
Franglais, lover of the EU,
Multilingual and cosmopolitan too,
Brexit might have caused a boo-hoo,
And most of TN really dont give a pooh.

[Franglais]
I’m thinking you need to set that one to the tune of Ra-ra-Rasputin by Boney M, You’ll need to tweak it a little to make it …
[\Franglais]

Ra-ra rasputin by boney.m (good tune ta)

Franglais lover …

Verse 1:
Franglais, lover of the EU,
Multilingual and cosmopolitan too,
Brexit might have caused a boo-hoo,
But TN doesn’t give a ■■■-■■■.

Chorus:
Ra ra Franglais, lover of diversity,
In Brussels or Paris, Franglais is the bee’s knees,
Multilingual and oh so free,
Franglais is the way to be.

Verse 2:
From London to Berlin, Franglais is the talk,
From the Channel to the Rhine, Franglais takes a walk,
Brexit may have caused some shock,
But Franglais remains nonchalant.

Chorus:
Ra ra Franglais, lover of diversity,
In Brussels or Paris, Franglais is the bee’s knees,
Multilingual and oh so free,
Franglais is the way to be.

Verse 3:
With Franglais, there’s no language barrier,
Je parle français and I speak English clearer,
Franglais is the perfect carrier,
Of all that’s good and cosmopolitan here.

Chorus:
Ra ra Franglais, lover of diversity,
In Brussels or Paris, Franglais is the bee’s knees,
Multilingual and oh so free,
Franglais is the way to be.

hehehehehe

A far better effort than I could ever manage.

I ain`t got no soul

[franglais]

TonkaBoy:
Brexit has never really been given a chance… due to many reasons…

Are we better off today ? It will take time, and some decent political leaders and none are about yet, but at least once they step forward we are ready to move forward…

And instead of buying boats to house illegal people entering UK, should of invested into UK companies to build or modify existing ships, like all the cruise liners being scrapped since covid, but most political parties are also into imediate results for votes, rather than planning for the future… one huge problem… like the failed HS2 joke… 30 mins quicker link north and south… yes we really needed that didn’t we, would of been better spent investing in existing infrastructure in the North… it needs it ! Like some of the motorways… M62 out of Hull comes to mind… will they ever resurface it ?

Mind you put the boats on the humber, and allow those on the boat/hotel/prison to work on the motorway and pay for their rooms

And as the EU was the cause of Hulls fishing being decimated, a reason to leave on its own…

Same as wreaking farming in UK with all their subs to not grow crops… the EU was and is a wreaking ball for countries within it, so they become dependant on the EU…

And why glad we are out !

So far the UK is performing worse on the world stage than it was before.
It is performing worse than the EU.

It is illegal under UK law for asylum seekers to work for money. They could work for nothing I s`pose? Will that really help with better wages for UK workers?

Are there any reasons to assume that will change?
We do know that there are extra checks due to come in on both passports and on documents for goods…we know that things are likely to get worse rather than better. More friction and more costs for people and goods.

How is the EU responsible for Hull fisheries depletion?
It needs international co-operation to avoid overfishing. Shoals of fish don`t respect borders.

Since Brexit Gove has started paying UK farmers to have fallow land (for the public good) rather than grow crops. Is that a vast improvement?

(Edited to move one of my paras out side of the quote).

[jeffa]

TonkaBoy:
Brexit has never really been given a chance… due to many reasons…

Are we better off today ? It will take time, and some decent political leaders and none are about yet, but at least once they step forward we are ready to move forward…

And instead of buying boats to house illegal people entering UK, should of invested into UK companies to build or modify existing ships, like all the cruise liners being scrapped since covid, but most political parties are also into imediate results for votes, rather than planning for the future… one huge problem… like the failed HS2 joke… 30 mins quicker link north and south… yes we really needed that didn’t we, would of been better spent investing in existing infrastructure in the North… it needs it ! Like some of the motorways… M62 out of Hull comes to mind… will they ever resurface it ?

Mind you put the boats on the humber, and allow those on the boat/hotel/prison to work on the motorway and pay for their rooms

And as the EU was the cause of Hulls fishing being decimated, a reason to leave on its own…

Same as wreaking farming in UK with all their subs to not grow crops… the EU was and is a wreaking ball for countries within it, so they become dependant on the EU…

And why glad we are out !

Brexit had every chance - ot was just a stupid idea.

Are we better off? No nrexit has cost us about 150 billion so far and knocks 4% off gdp every year.off

Btw, these million migrants arnt the ones coming by boats.

[winseer]

The simple fact is that no side of political office has even tried to do anything about this.

The Tories - make a show of “doing stuff”, which then gets blocked by the Left with all the “Legal Challenges” etc.

The correct way for a so-called Right Wing government to behave is to lock people up who try to block the implementation of ANY of their policy roll-outs.

Look at the effort the Democrats have made in America to roll out their agenda, and continuously try to get Trump locked up for attempting to get elected, and stop it all…

“Government by Consent” is what we’re supposed to get.

I don’t think we’ve had any for the past century, when it comes down to it.

The choices are “Whos policies can you put up with, and live with” “Bad or Worse” choice at the ballot boxes.

When’s the last time we voted FOR something, got it implemented speedily, and won over those who were originally opposed to it?

Brexit, Capital Punishment, Pulling up the Drawbridge, or even going to war without public consent…

FFS We once topped our King of the day for doing the latter, don’t forget!

Maybe it is time for something in the reverse to happen in the world now, to get us back on track…

“Country xxxx was destroyed by an asteroid impact that could easily have been averted, but all industry that could have deflected said asteroid - was closed down in favour of “Carbon Neutral” rollouts, industries that just didn’t work, and could not even be powered, the cost of electricity being what it is and all…”

[winseer]

JeffA:

TonkaBoy:
Brexit has never really been given a chance… due to many reasons…

Are we better off today ? It will take time, and some decent political leaders and none are about yet, but at least once they step forward we are ready to move forward…

And instead of buying boats to house illegal people entering UK, should of invested into UK companies to build or modify existing ships, like all the cruise liners being scrapped since covid, but most political parties are also into imediate results for votes, rather than planning for the future… one huge problem… like the failed HS2 joke… 30 mins quicker link north and south… yes we really needed that didn’t we, would of been better spent investing in existing infrastructure in the North… it needs it ! Like some of the motorways… M62 out of Hull comes to mind… will they ever resurface it ?

Mind you put the boats on the humber, and allow those on the boat/hotel/prison to work on the motorway and pay for their rooms

And as the EU was the cause of Hulls fishing being decimated, a reason to leave on its own…

Same as wreaking farming in UK with all their subs to not grow crops… the EU was and is a wreaking ball for countries within it, so they become dependant on the EU…

And why glad we are out !

Brexit had every chance - ot was just a stupid idea.

Are we better off? No nrexit has cost us about 150 billion so far and knocks 4% off gdp every year.off

Btw, these million migrants arnt the ones coming by boats.

Brexit was never fully implemented, left half-done - on purpose, so it could one day be reversed.

The notion presumably is to somehow win over the hearts and minds of the Brexiteers, so we one day accept perhaps that our establishment simply won’t LET us have something we voted for - not ever.

THe council elections - had no Reform Party on my ballot paper, so brexiteers unhappy with out things are going - have two choices:
Put up with it, as the democratic solution now shuts the 17m of us out completely, or rise up, and take over the country in the name of survival…

All the while those 17m people have still got most of what they started with - they WON’T rise up, of course…

“Managed Contentment” is the order of the day.

We cannot ever prosper again, because politics is too polarized to manage, at least this side of any future apocalypse.

The Media even portrays the Immigration issue as the main concern for Brexiteers…
Not true though - is it?
The main issue is simple prosperity.
We lose good things we had, we don’t gain good things we were promised, we get browbeaten down by bad things politicians do that they never even threatened us with, and get denied any upside whatsoever from things we’ve already voted for, that they don’t agree with.

Meanwhile, we get poorer by the hour, and they get paid an awful lot for each day of failing the public they commit…

Keir Starmer - clearly doesn’t have the answers, if he now plans to give votes to people you’ll never meet, and thus rig every future election “Democratically”. “Oh you lost, because there are now 12m extra people on the electoral rolls that you can’t prove even exist… Where we used to lose elections by 5-6m votes on the Left, in future we’ll be winning just so it doesn’t look too suspicious…” This is a device the EU wants to roll out around the world in partnership with the American Democratic National Congress. NO poltical party - is allowed a big majority, so the “Tyranny of the Majority” never happens again, when the “Majority” as an entire concept - is what made Democracy GOOD in the beginning…
Poltical Power - can do whatever it likes under the “Illusion” of Democracy. The system is no longer fit for purpose

I wonder if the Left Voting block can be won over by rolling out policies such as “35% one off payrise to the NHS, plus “CPI +2%” each year automatically whilst we remain in power”. ?

The Tories have been wrong to try and win over the NHS imo. This is very much Labour’s creation, and the Tories would have done better to have made BUPA affordable to all UK citizens… Instead though, they’ve made housing LESS affordable, and now stand to alienate their own voter base by devaluing housing 18 months ahead of a general election, which doesn’t strike me as very smart…

So Everyone gets Baige, everyone is miserable, the only ones happy are the Elites…
How does an ordinary person aspire to Elitehood?
You win the lottery, kneel before enough people in high places, and don’t support upstart political movements, other than the Far Left establishment-approved of such as BLM, Antifa, and Extinction Rebellion…

“Insitutionalized Evil” is all “Democracy” has become, and as such - it becomes another regime of History that is in dire need of overthrow, in favour of a new system that empowers those paying for it all - the taxpaying public.

The Tories have been told to do only things that are “Legal” as defined by hotshow Lawyers, but when it comes to “illegal Foreign Wars” - these same Lawyers - won’t ever stop our government from casually murdering citizens of other countries AND their own - whenever it suits their “Greater Purpose”.

Now we even have a new King who seems to have signed up to the Green agenda, breaking with Monarchy Tradition “not to get involved with politics”.

The Left would like to abolish the Monarchy, and the RIght, I suspect, - would like to see a return to Aboslute Monarchy coupled with Dynastic Change to wield the Rod of Iron that is so clearly needed in the world now.

For the time being, we have a Centerist monarch who’ll carry on impressing, pleasing, and “serving” no one at all, other than the same old political class that seems to benefit from our collective demise at every turn…

Yet we keep voting for this shower!?

I’m not bothered about “Immigration” - I just don’t want to be poorer in the future than I am now, “Don’t want tomorrow to be like today” as the words of the Auf WIedersehen Pet title song goes…

[jeffa]

Rigged elections? Oh behave.

[franglais]

JeffA:
Rigged elections? Oh behave.

Guess you havent heard about Rees-Moggs speech today?
He was at one the Tory splinter group meetings. Said that one of the reasons the Tories did so badly was because of the new voter ID requirements.
Although he voted for it he is now saying that it is undemocratic, because his party did badly.

bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65599380

The Tories are so bad they can`t even run a banana republic properly!

[carryfast]

JeffA:
Brexit had every chance - ot was just a stupid idea.

Are we better off? No nrexit has cost us about 150 billion so far and knocks 4% off gdp every year.off

Btw, these million migrants arnt the ones coming by boats.

It’s only a stupid idea from the point of view
of the ideology of the anti nation state Collective.Which you obviously follow.
As for GDP remind me how much it dropped between 1972 and 2016.Together with the value of the pound.

[franglais]

Carryfast:

JeffA:
Brexit had every chance - ot was just a stupid idea.

Are we better off? No nrexit has cost us about 150 billion so far and knocks 4% off gdp every year.off

Btw, these million migrants arnt the ones coming by boats.

It’s only a stupid idea from the point of view
of the ideology of the anti nation state Collective.Which you obviously follow.
As for GDP remind me how much it dropped between 1972 and 2016.Together with the value of the pound.

UK GDP per capita didn`t drop between those years?
It rose, from $3,000 to $41,000.

Not so much a reminder for you maybe, more an eye-opener?

macrotrends.net/countries/G … ic-product