robroy:
Franglais:
robroy:
Absolutely.
Boris was not totally for it I get that, but at least he did the MP thing of ‘representation of the electorate’ and got us to [zb] out of it.
Not too much enthusiasm since then though, hence the engineered hotch potch and cluster [zb] state of affairs, convenientky fuelling the anti Brexit lobby
You were promised that Brexit would be the cure all for everything.
You voted for it.
You haven`t got the promised Utopia have you?
It isnt because the Politicos are in a *conspiracy* to deny you your Unicorns and pots of rainbow gold. Unicorns dont exist.
The promises were lies.
Frangers to be serious,.I know you are an intelligent bloke, so why can you not see what I mean,.and why resort to sarcasm.
That is the whole point, the Torues did not want to nor expect to leave the EU,.so yeah lying was part of the going through the motions process, I’ll give you that.
My joke towards you about the football analogies are wearing a bit thin, but can you not see the Alan Shearer getting a job promoting Sunderland thing I keep rabbitting on about, it fits the bill to a tee on this, it is EXACTLY the situation we (both sides if the argument) find ourselves in.
They are BOUND albeit reluctantly to carry out the will if the majority that they do not agree with !!
Nobody who abides by the laws of human nature is going to promote something that they do not want nor have any interest in, so for the sake of the discussion just give a neutral stance for one minute and admit that it is so.
The only time that Brexit would be, or will be a roaring success is if it is managed by somebody or some party that has a penchant and a enthusiasm for it…like I said a vocal Farage type character and personality, irrespective of the fact you do not agree with him.
The 2 crappy parties at the moment,.and especially their dubious leaders on either side do NOT fit that bill.
Surely even you and me can agree on that. 
…whatever our differing viewpoints are.
So dismount the high horse for a minute and think on it. 
Brexit will be, indeed is a success for a small number of people. For the country as a whole it isn`t ever going to be a good thing.
Going with your idea, why would having a Farage in charge make a difference? He is just another one of the liars and snake oil salesmen.
He can, with all the others promise the world, promise the unicorns and gold, but they don`t exist in the real world.
The whole world is seeking better trade deals everywhere. When this current Gov gets a new trade deal (no matter how rubbish it really is) they sing out loud.
So why is leaving our biggest and nearest (transport costs increasing) free trading zone behind a good idea?
The only (almost) economist who thought that Brexit was a good thing was Minford. He was also a colleague of Thatcher and admired by that great economist Liz Truss…
Minford predicted that Brexit would decimate UK manufacturing and farming. I repeat he thought Brexit was a good thing!
He also predicted a cut in UK food prices post Brexit.
Looks like he got one thing right, just a pity it wasn`t the food price thing.
No matter who is in charge 2+2 will never make 5. Brexit, as advertised, was a lie.
Johnson was a ■■■■ good vote winner. Again and again he won elections.
I don`t know why, but he certainly convinced loads of perfectly normal people he was the one to vote for. Farage too had good communication skills.
Being a good communicator does nothing to make you right though, does it?
History is littered with good speakers who, in their time were seen as great by millions of decent people, but with time are seen for the charlatans they are.
Look at the message and any facts purporting to support it, not at the person doing the talking.
Johnson might be a Jack the lad in a boozer up for a laugh with you, his pal.
(When he isn`t calling us “drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless”, of course)
) are all in regret (according to you lot anyway) Nirvana at last.
