Carryfast:
Freight Dog:
The security services are significantly worried about the threat and have said publicly its not possible to prevent all the potential attacks forever and with the quietly returning number of “trained” nutters coming back to spread their war stories and vitriol to other young impressionables within their communities the risk is going to sharply increase.
The UK isn’t very well geared up for internal underground terror threats on a large scale. It struggled like hell to deal with the IRA threat on these shores. The time for nipping it in the bud has gone. It should have been amped up before the returning come back and disperse, recruiting amongst the disaffected young men in the communities. Just like the IRA infact. They recruited impressionable disaffected young men seeking a cause and the chance to be someone in their circle.
Unfortunately with a highly liberal, head-in-sand society strangled by self guilt and fear of putting a foot down, it will not be controlled any more than you can hold onto water. The communities themselves seem particularly mute on the point, preffering to winge on radio or TV that “we’re not all the same” rather than getting their house in order and recognising they’re the closest link to identifying and stopping this threat. Problem is they’re conflicted by a fierce loyalty and doctrine. So no wonder there’s little help there.
The modern British way is to believe everyone is cuddly if you love them hard enough. Imbecilic and childish crap. God knows how we ended up so childish. I think a lot of bright young things educated in ideology but haven’t seen the world and have no idea that however hard they wish for it to be true, the world doesn’t spin like that. The strong with evil intentions will always abuse and out manipulate the weak minded, and nieve.
Firstly assuming the worst case scenario what we’re seeing is something a lot more than a ‘number of nutters coming back’.More like coming back together with their own invasion force under cover of illegal immigration/refugee status.
While ironically your third paragraph contradicts the fourth in making the naive assumption that the established culture in question isn’t actually just putting on a show of loyalty or even split loyalty as part of your final sentence.Make no mistake the motivation,or goal/end game,or the rules they go by,have absolutely no connection whatsoever,with the type of ‘issues’ which we faced,in the case of the IRA’s misguided attempt to change the settlement which Collins ( rightly ) reached. 
Oh no, you again boss. “It’s ironic”. Oh no, is it? Oh right, go on then, where did I make the “naive” assumption 
? Point that out, you’re going to tell us. Stating “the modern British way” does not do say whether that’s a national tendency or some plot by the government to trick us into being so liberal for their ill gotten gains. Either way, whether you believe foul play at force or it’s the Martians fault - the result is the same. But I do see what you’re saying, that there’s a lot going on behind the scenes albeit what I was saying wasn’t discounting that. At least I didn’t think I was when I wrote it. I think it’s right as well that some will use the cover of refugee status.
Can I just ask you something CF chief? I don’t want this to sound like an insult but I am genuinely interested/bemused.
You do have a bizarre way of talking down to every poster on here when you reckon you have some sort of upper hand like you’ve just done. You know if another poster had made the same point we’d probably be discussing it like mates with equal respect? Not sure why you feel the need to do it.
At first it was funny, with the submarines, bridges, American lorries, politics, aviation and how much expertise you want to pass on about endless, endless topics. Now I’m backing off with you. I’m starting to realize its real and you’re most likely like it in real life and it’s not a joking matter. Its like you’re unable to discuss things using respect for others views, lest you don’t look like you have the answers. It’s odd behaviour. It really is.
You’re displaying the kind of persona - your online persona at least, that CRM was invented for to winkle out. We cover characters that display your group relation traits every year in recurrent training and the accidents that have been caused by them and the more I’ve had conversations with you the more the similarities in the psychology are uncanny.
I was going to say I support some of what you’ve said too and big your points up but I can’t muster the enthusiasm anymore as It’ll fall on deaf ears. Maybe an inferiority thing. Who knows. You can be liked and respected in this world without having to fight like a possessed to appear clever all the time you know mate. Some of us like people for being just easy to get on with and don’t care about anything else. Good luck Carryfast.
