iearl504:
You’re either A) a left wing loon that would love to see this country commit demographic and cultural suicide.
Or B) you’re an immigrant yourself.
There is the possibility of C.Support of the Con immigration agenda which is all about over supplying the labour market with as much immigrant labour as possible.On the basis of also couldn’t care less about the fact that the idea also means joining the socialist agenda contained in A as being a price worth paying.Hence why Enoch Powell never made Con Party leader.
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?
My solution is not to let hordes of freeloaders into the country, genuine refugees, yes, but they’re clearly in the minority.
Like I’ve mentioned before the vast majority will have a lifetime on benefits. This is just an insult to all the hard workers of this country who have to work almost until they drop dead all while their own culture erodes in front of their eyes.
I find it interesting that non of the Arab countries have let any in whatsoever, but they will happily fund 200 mosques to be built in Germany. Not food and water. Mosques. Bit sinister I think.
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?
My solution is not to let hordes of freeloaders into the country, genuine refugees, yes, but they’re clearly in the minority.
Like I’ve mentioned before the vast majority will have a lifetime on benefits. This is just an insult to all the hard workers of this country who have to work almost until they drop dead all while their own culture erodes in front of their eyes.
I find it interesting that non of the Arab countries have let any in whatsoever, but they will happily fund 200 mosques to be built in Germany. Not food and water. Mosques. Bit sinister I think.
Bearing in mind our land mass and existing population levels it’s arguably also time to say no more ‘refugees’ either.The boat is full.While in this case it seems obvious that it’s an Islamic invasion and/or a deliberate attempt to change the demographic of western Europe.With the help of the Socialist collusion of people like the infiltrator zb Merkel and Junker.
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?
My solution is not to let hordes of freeloaders into the country, genuine refugees, yes, but they’re clearly in the minority.
Like I’ve mentioned before the vast majority will have a lifetime on benefits. This is just an insult to all the hard workers of this country who have to work almost until they drop dead all while their own culture erodes in front of their eyes.
I find it interesting that non of the Arab countries have let any in whatsoever, but they will happily fund 200 mosques to be built in Germany. Not food and water. Mosques. Bit sinister I think.
Bearing in mind our land mass and existing population levels it’s arguably also time to say no more ‘refugees’ either.The boat is full.While in this case it seems obvious that it’s an Islamic invasion and/or a deliberate attempt to change the demographic of western Europe.With the help of the Socialist collusion of people like the infiltrator zb Merkel and Junker.
We really need to think of our own people for once, the islamisation of Europe is racing along unhindered and one day it will be too late.
Here’s a quote from Gaddafi -
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?
My solution is not to let hordes of freeloaders into the country, genuine refugees, yes, but they’re clearly in the minority.
Like I’ve mentioned before the vast majority will have a lifetime on benefits. This is just an insult to all the hard workers of this country who have to work almost until they drop dead all while their own culture erodes in front of their eyes.
I find it interesting that non of the Arab countries have let any in whatsoever, but they will happily fund 200 mosques to be built in Germany. Not food and water. Mosques. Bit sinister I think.
Bearing in mind our land mass and existing population levels it’s arguably also time to say no more ‘refugees’ either.The boat is full.While in this case it seems obvious that it’s an Islamic invasion and/or a deliberate attempt to change the demographic of western Europe.With the help of the Socialist collusion of people like the infiltrator zb Merkel and Junker.
We really need to think of our own people for once, the islamisation of Europe is racing along unhindered and one day it will be too late.
Here’s a quote from Gaddafi -
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.
If/when it all goes pear shaped there’s no way that it won’t end up in another but massive version of Yugoslavia.IE history and human nature suggests whichever unfortunate generation gets lumbered with being the indigenous minority in their own countries/areas will inevitably have to fight for their survival and self determination in the face of the immigrant takeover.On that note even Farage is way under estimating the stakes in the fight now to prevent that situation for later generations.
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?
My solution is not to let hordes of freeloaders into the country, genuine refugees, yes, but they’re clearly in the minority.
Like I’ve mentioned before the vast majority will have a lifetime on benefits. This is just an insult to all the hard workers of this country who have to work almost until they drop dead all while their own culture erodes in front of their eyes.
I find it interesting that non of the Arab countries have let any in whatsoever, but they will happily fund 200 mosques to be built in Germany. Not food and water. Mosques. Bit sinister I think.
Just thought I’d add, we have very efficient counter terrorism services, this is why we haven’t had many attacks.
50 have been stopped so far after 7/7, So importing more terrorists is not going to help the situation.
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?
My solution is not to let hordes of freeloaders into the country, genuine refugees, yes, but they’re clearly in the minority.
Like I’ve mentioned before the vast majority will have a lifetime on benefits. This is just an insult to all the hard workers of this country who have to work almost until they drop dead all while their own culture erodes in front of their eyes.
I find it interesting that non of the Arab countries have let any in whatsoever, but they will happily fund 200 mosques to be built in Germany. Not food and water. Mosques. Bit sinister I think.
Bearing in mind our land mass and existing population levels it’s arguably also time to say no more ‘refugees’ either.The boat is full.While in this case it seems obvious that it’s an Islamic invasion and/or a deliberate attempt to change the demographic of western Europe.With the help of the Socialist collusion of people like the infiltrator zb Merkel and Junker.
We really need to think of our own people for once, the islamisation of Europe is racing along unhindered and one day it will be too late.
Here’s a quote from Gaddafi -
We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.
If/when it all goes pear shaped there’s no way that it won’t end up in another but massive version of Yugoslavia.IE history and human nature suggests whichever unfortunate generation gets lumbered with being the indigenous minority in their own countries/areas will inevitably have to fight for their survival and self determination in the face of the immigrant takeover.On that note even Farage is way under estimating the stakes in the fight now to prevent that situation for later generations.
I think Farage is aware of what’s going on, I just think because he’s in the media spotlight he plays it safe. Paul Weston on the other hand doesn’t give a ■■■■. He’s the most honest person on this subject.
I have no doubt it will go pear shaped, (whether immigration continues or not) this migrant crisis is just speeding things up, I think we’ll leave fighting back as the very last resort and as a result it’ll be too late to win the battle. But we will have to fight simply as a means of survival.
The cultural differences between European and middle Eastern people amongst others are about to become ever more clearer in the next few years (a German school has already banned mini skirts, just in time for the mass influx of migrants). [emoji57]
So the solution is to just let genuine refugees in, you do realise there are over 4 million from Syria alone don’t you?
Again, are they coming here to sponge off the state or are they part of the governments cheap labour plan, they cannot be doing both.
If there was 50 million Muslims in Europe before gadaffi died, few years ago now, they seem to be taking their time in overthrowing us don’t you think.
Banning mini skirts in schools! I should bloody well think so, they are there to learn not show off their working parts to everyone, besides they died out in the 70s didn’t they?
You would think that sir Nigel would be making plenty noise about the current situation, the fact he isn’t proves he’s out of his depth on a big stage, no clue how to go on or what to say. His “we should leave the EU” chant seems a little small now that a bigger problem has appeared, a one he has no idea how to sort out.
Can you really see the government, given the support shown for the refugees wether you like it or not, sending the army to guard the ports, not as long as my bottom points south I reckon.
No I’m afraid this is a huge problem for many countries, one which will need all countries to get together and come up with a plan, one which won’t be sorted out by seeing terrorists on every corner. There is no quick fix, and one which no amount of linked articles sort out.
iearl504:
I think Farage is aware of what’s going on, I just think because he’s in the media spotlight he plays it safe. Paul Weston on the other hand doesn’t give a ■■■■. He’s the most honest person on this subject.
The cultural differences between European and middle Eastern people amongst others are about to become ever more clearer in the next few years (a German school has already banned mini skirts, just in time for the mass influx of migrants). [emoji57]
^ This.The issue of ‘cultural differences’ is a guaranteed unarguable given.The question being at what point do the numbers result in firstly increasing calls for self determination among the alienated immigrant groups and/or majority rule over the indigenous population.The latter seeming to be the immigrant end game.In which case forget about the issue of mini skirts for school uniforms.When the agenda will have moved on to bar maids like this being forced to serve tea only while wearing a burka.
BillyHunt:
So the solution is to just let genuine refugees in, you do realise there are over 4 million from Syria alone don’t you?
Again, are they coming here to sponge off the state or are they part of the governments cheap labour plan, they cannot be doing both.
If there was 50 million Muslims in Europe before gadaffi died, few years ago now, they seem to be taking their time in overthrowing us don’t you think.
Banning mini skirts in schools! I should bloody well think so, they are there to learn not show off their working parts to everyone, besides they died out in the 70s didn’t they?
You would think that sir Nigel would be making plenty noise about the current situation, the fact he isn’t proves he’s out of his depth on a big stage, no clue how to go on or what to say. His “we should leave the EU” chant seems a little small now that a bigger problem has appeared, a one he has no idea how to sort out.
Can you really see the government, given the support shown for the refugees wether you like it or not, sending the army to guard the ports, not as long as my bottom points south I reckon.
No I’m afraid this is a huge problem for many countries, one which will need all countries to get together and come up with a plan, one which won’t be sorted out by seeing terrorists on every corner. There is no quick fix, and one which no amount of linked articles sort out.
When Farage says genuine refugees only he is obviously referring to a limited intake which reflects our limited land space and existing immigrant demographic over representation and our economic ability to support them.On that basis it is obvious that the country is effectively already full.While in this case bearing in mind the cultural background of the ‘refugees’ in question that issue can/should be sorted by saying it’s a problem for the Arab world among the rich under populated Gulf States like Saudi etc to deal with not us.
As for their ‘reasons’ for coming here you seem to be conveniently over looking the fact that the motivation of immigrants coming here is a totally different motivation than the cheap labour pro immigration agenda that wants them here.The former motivation being all about demographic takeover while being provided with our relatively generous health care and housing benefit and low wage top up regime while they do it.
The point about farage is that I’ve not heard, or read, anything he has said on the subject. Not a peep. I would have expected more for a person leading a party solely dedicated to getting us out of Europe by claiming we take in too many from there, let alone anywhere else.
Everyone seems to be able to tell me all the problems, real or imagined, that these people will bring, tell me your solution. Your vast intellect should find this task a piece of ■■■■.
BillyHunt:
The point about farage is that I’ve not heard, or read, anything he has said on the subject. Not a peep. I would have expected more for a person leading a party solely dedicated to getting us out of Europe by claiming we take in too many from there, let alone anywhere else.
Everyone seems to be able to tell me all the problems, real or imagined, that these people will bring, tell me your solution. Your vast intellect should find this task a piece of ■■■■.
Farage’s view is all there in the live stream link which I posted from the Purfleet campaign tour meeting.Including the issue of free movement of our own between the colonies,which we need.Having been stopped in favour of free movement between the alien under developed east euro countries which we don’t need.
As for the solution leave the EU and tell the Arab ‘refugees’ to go to Saudi among their own.Or preferably fight to sort out their own country.In which case the ‘refugees’ shouldn’t include any men of fighting age.While using the military to do their job of looking after our borders against foreign invasion.In whatever form that invasion takes in this case economic migration.
BillyHunt:
The point about farage is that I’ve not heard, or read, anything he has said on the subject. Not a peep. I would have expected more for a person leading a party solely dedicated to getting us out of Europe by claiming we take in too many from there, let alone anywhere else.
Everyone seems to be able to tell me all the problems, real or imagined, that these people will bring, tell me your solution. Your vast intellect should find this task a piece of ■■■■.
Farage’s view is all there in the live stream link which I posted from the Purfleet campaign tour meeting.Including the issue of free movement of our own between the colonies,which we need.Having been stopped in favour of free movement between the alien under developed east euro countries which we don’t need.
As for the solution leave the EU and tell the Arab ‘refugees’ to go to Saudi among their own.Or preferably fight to sort out their own country.In which case the ‘refugees’ shouldn’t include any men of fighting age.While using the military to do their job of looking after our borders against foreign invasion.In whatever form that invasion takes in this case economic migration.
So sir Nigel relies on people like yourself to pass on his message, I could be wrong but that is not going to get it across to many is it.
As for your solution to the refugees It’s leave the EU and simply tell the rest to go home! Yes, I’m sure that will work a treat, don’t know why nobody thought of that before. For some reason I expected a little more. Basically your the same as the rest, happy to whinge & whine about the situation but not a single clue about how to repair it. You & sir Nige make a great couple.
BillyHunt:
So the solution is to just let genuine refugees in, you do realise there are over 4 million from Syria alone don’t you?
Again, are they coming here to sponge off the state or are they part of the governments cheap labour plan, they cannot be doing both.
If there was 50 million Muslims in Europe before gadaffi died, few years ago now, they seem to be taking their time in overthrowing us don’t you think.
Banning mini skirts in schools! I should bloody well think so, they are there to learn not show off their working parts to everyone, besides they died out in the 70s didn’t they?
You would think that sir Nigel would be making plenty noise about the current situation, the fact he isn’t proves he’s out of his depth on a big stage, no clue how to go on or what to say. His “we should leave the EU” chant seems a little small now that a bigger problem has appeared, a one he has no idea how to sort out.
Can you really see the government, given the support shown for the refugees wether you like it or not, sending the army to guard the ports, not as long as my bottom points south I reckon.
No I’m afraid this is a huge problem for many countries, one which will need all countries to get together and come up with a plan, one which won’t be sorted out by seeing terrorists on every corner. There is no quick fix, and one which no amount of linked articles sort out.
Read the Gaddafi quote again, you’ll notice he said nothing about violence, it’s about ridiculously high birthrates thus achieving a complete demographic takeover. Which I might add we’re on course for. It’s as simple as that. However long it may take.
As for the mini skirts - the point is, they were banned solely for the new arrivals (Sweden comes to mind) before they even showed up, how many other things may ‘offend’ these ‘refugees’, like I’ve been saying the cultural differences cannot be overlooked and will ultimately be disastrous. This could potentially turn Europe into a war zone within the next decade, it’s not hard to see where we’re heading - just look how people in the middle East treat Christians for example. Lebanon in the 80s is what parts of Europe could eventually turn into.
Importing backward cultures (whatever the reason) will end in misery, we’re way past the point of taking in refugees, unlimited immigration for many years has done enough damage already. I don’t want to take in any of the so called refugees I’ve saw, with iphones, the latest clothes, and throwing away food and water, and many looking generally ungrateful.
BillyHunt:
The point about farage is that I’ve not heard, or read, anything he has said on the subject. Not a peep. I would have expected more for a person leading a party solely dedicated to getting us out of Europe by claiming we take in too many from there, let alone anywhere else.
Everyone seems to be able to tell me all the problems, real or imagined, that these people will bring, tell me your solution. Your vast intellect should find this task a piece of ■■■■.
Farage’s view is all there in the live stream link which I posted from the Purfleet campaign tour meeting.Including the issue of free movement of our own between the colonies,which we need.Having been stopped in favour of free movement between the alien under developed east euro countries which we don’t need.
As for the solution leave the EU and tell the Arab ‘refugees’ to go to Saudi among their own.Or preferably fight to sort out their own country.In which case the ‘refugees’ shouldn’t include any men of fighting age.While using the military to do their job of looking after our borders against foreign invasion.In whatever form that invasion takes in this case economic migration.
Exactly, why aren’t the Arabs taking them in? Isn’t that a tad suspect? I mean considering they’re funding many of the mosques built in Europe (including 200 planned in Germany) this is ALL about spreading Islam. And the very worst form of it.
Carryfast:
Farage’s view is all there in the live stream link which I posted from the Purfleet campaign tour meeting.Including the issue of free movement of our own between the colonies,which we need.Having been stopped in favour of free movement between the alien under developed east euro countries which we don’t need.
As for the solution leave the EU and tell the Arab ‘refugees’ to go to Saudi among their own.Or preferably fight to sort out their own country.In which case the ‘refugees’ shouldn’t include any men of fighting age.While using the military to do their job of looking after our borders against foreign invasion.In whatever form that invasion takes in this case economic migration.
For refugees the fighting must have displaced a lot of cities populated singularly with young, single blokes full of jeers and machismo. As thats what is appearing in droves on the border lines. What did they do with the families, leave them behind then? Just seen a news reporter interviewing some of these twenty something’s. Full of it, talking about how it’s easy to get a false Syrian passport made to claim refugees status.
Not the same image of war trodden families displaced in WW2 migrating across Europe. If the sods can be well enough to refuse red cross parcels then exactly how desperate are they?
And perhaps we’d have more room/tolerance for genuine refugees as well as employment for them if we hadn’t been flooded by eastern europeans for the last decade or so.
BillyHunt:
As for your solution to the refugees It’s leave the EU and simply tell the rest to go home! Yes, I’m sure that will work a treat, don’t know why nobody thought of that before. For some reason I expected a little more. Basically your the same as the rest, happy to whinge & whine about the situation but not a single clue about how to repair it. You & sir Nige make a great couple.
Considering that your solution is obviously that of the Con Party faithful,being do what Merkel says in letting em all in.I’m not surprised that you wouldn’t want to hear,understand,or accept any view to the contrary.The fact is the Cons are a bigger threat to the future of this country than zb Corbyn.
