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iearl504:

Carryfast:

iearl504:
Nature figured all this out for us. Force mixing everyone from different cultures won’t, and never will work.

Unfortunately we seem to at the start of a long planned Socialist take over.In which the Capitalist world sees at best a way to maintain its income by colluding with it,or at worse losing what it’s got by fighting it.The infiltration of the media already seeming to be at a frightening level in that regard.To the point where I for one now refuse to listen/watch the mainstream UK news at least.On that note trust me the ever strengthening dictatorship involved in that won’t care about what nature says.Which is why we’re already in the situation that speaking out against forced ethnic integration can be classed as a racist crime.On that note the idea of so called ‘white flight’ will probably be next on the hit list of so called ‘race hate’ crime as the plan further unfolds. :bulb:

I have actually read articles denying the existence of white flight, well, in papers like the guardian. No surprise there.

How can anyone deny it, every city with an immigrant presence has white flight, a homogeneous society is what people long for, I don’t want multiculturalism and I don’t recall anyone being asked?

This is a takeover, as I’ve mentioned before we will not be a majority for long, the clock is ticking.

So we’re to take in 20,000 Syrians, what a ■■■■ smart move that was. [emoji57]

As I said having been one of the Socialist political nutcases when I was too young and naive to know better white flight is actually one of the biggest problems and spanner in the works.IE they can nick people for saying they won’t accept integration with an incoming alien immigrant population but,so far,they can’t do anything about the indigenous population leaving and turning their backs on it.‘So far’ being the point.On that note there’s realistically no way that they can make it work without eventually sooner or later introducing similar ‘racial harmony’ laws in regard to ‘white flight’.IE a crime will have been seen to have been committed ‘if’ it can be shown that anyone ‘left’ an area because of their resistance to ethnic integration.Trust me knowing the nutter zb Socialist mindset sorting that issue will definitely be on the Socialist agenda somewhere sometime.

As for the 20,000 figure as I said I’ve now stopped watching and listening to and believing the bs being put out by the media.Being that it’s totally lost to the pro immigration agenda.The fact is Cameron is just trying to use diversion tactics and bs to appease the small anti immigration faction within the Cons.

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iearl504:

Carryfast:

iearl504:
Nature figured all this out for us. Force mixing everyone from different cultures won’t, and never will work.

Unfortunately we seem to at the start of a long planned Socialist take over.In which the Capitalist world sees at best a way to maintain its income by colluding with it,or at worse losing what it’s got by fighting it.The infiltration of the media already seeming to be at a frightening level in that regard.To the point where I for one now refuse to listen/watch the mainstream UK news at least.On that note trust me the ever strengthening dictatorship involved in that won’t care about what nature says.Which is why we’re already in the situation that speaking out against forced ethnic integration can be classed as a racist crime.On that note the idea of so called ‘white flight’ will probably be next on the hit list of so called ‘race hate’ crime as the plan further unfolds. :bulb:

I have actually read articles denying the existence of white flight, well, in papers like the guardian. No surprise there.

How can anyone deny it, every city with an immigrant presence has white flight, a homogeneous society is what people long for, I don’t want multiculturalism and I don’t recall anyone being asked?

This is a takeover, as I’ve mentioned before we will not be a majority for long, the clock is ticking.

So we’re to take in 20,000 Syrians, what a ■■■■ smart move that was. [emoji57]

Yeah, and you two are not paranoid, much. If it mind forks the pair of you I’d happily take more.
You could always emigrate but there isn’t a 100% white country left is there?

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BillyHunt:

iearl504:

Carryfast:

iearl504:
You could always emigrate but there isn’t a 100% white country left is there?

I’m actually referring to the idea of maintaining/returning to an ‘indigenous’ majority demographic,obviously not 100%,at both national ‘and’ ‘local’ level throughout the country.Assuming that white flight remains legal then it’s obvious that something will have to be done regards the overall numbers of the immigrant population.Bearing in mind that the term itself is arguably an erroneous one actually meaning indigenous flight not necessarily always literally colour related at all and indigenous meaning in its Jus Sanguinis sense not Jus Soli.

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BillyHunt:

iearl504:

Carryfast:

iearl504:
Nature figured all this out for us. Force mixing everyone from different cultures won’t, and never will work.

Unfortunately we seem to at the start of a long planned Socialist take over.In which the Capitalist world sees at best a way to maintain its income by colluding with it,or at worse losing what it’s got by fighting it.The infiltration of the media already seeming to be at a frightening level in that regard.To the point where I for one now refuse to listen/watch the mainstream UK news at least.On that note trust me the ever strengthening dictatorship involved in that won’t care about what nature says.Which is why we’re already in the situation that speaking out against forced ethnic integration can be classed as a racist crime.On that note the idea of so called ‘white flight’ will probably be next on the hit list of so called ‘race hate’ crime as the plan further unfolds. :bulb:

I have actually read articles denying the existence of white flight, well, in papers like the guardian. No surprise there.

How can anyone deny it, every city with an immigrant presence has white flight, a homogeneous society is what people long for, I don’t want multiculturalism and I don’t recall anyone being asked?

This is a takeover, as I’ve mentioned before we will not be a majority for long, the clock is ticking.

So we’re to take in 20,000 Syrians, what a ■■■■ smart move that was. [emoji57]

Yeah, and you two are not paranoid, much. If it mind forks the pair of you I’d happily take more.
You could always emigrate but there isn’t a 100% white country left is there?

Why should I emigrate?

My grandparents fought in the war and protected their people, I have more a right to be here than any invader.

Oh that old chestnut, ‘paranoia’. Getting tiresome and boring. In other words you’re saying ‘yeah it does happen but just ignore it, let’s not rock the boat’.

So I proved it wasn’t “just Lancashire and Yorkshire”. So, wrong again.

The grooming is against non Muslim children. You’ve failed to acknowledge that as an issue. Interesting.

Your welcome to your 20,000 Syrians, with Isis members included. Many of whom will have a life time on benefits without making a single contribution.

And then their off spring need looking after, more money. Then there’s the polygamous relationships which includes great benefits such as a full single persons allowance for each wife.

Living off the taxpayers, who have to work till their 70 to get their pension. Now that’s equality.

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BillyHunt:
Not trying to prove you wrong, just that, even though it’s bad, it not as bad as you try to make out, and certainly not countrywide.
standpointmag.co.uk/node/3576/full

theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/ … abuse-race

A report for the children’s commissioner in 2012 found there were 1,514 perpetrators. Of these, 545 were white, 415 were Asian and 244 were black. The ethnicity of 21% of perpetrators was not recorded. Attempts to analyse the Asian figure further runs into problems. Just 35 of the 415 Asians are recorded as having Pakistani heritage and thus highly likely to be Muslim, and only five are recorded as being from a Bangladeshi background. The heritage of 366 of the Asian group is not stated in those figures.

ffs this is going on regardless of race colour religion!!

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The future of Britain and of much of Europe really scares me.

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Guiy de Montfort:
The future of Britain and of much of Europe really scares me.

Do we have a future that our forbears fought and died for ? No, I think they died in vain. Modern day globalisation has seen to that.

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iearl504:
Why should I emigrate?

My grandparents fought in the war and protected their people, I have more a right to be here than any invader.

Oh that old chestnut, ‘paranoia’. Getting tiresome and boring. In other words you’re saying ‘yeah it does happen but just ignore it, let’s not rock the boat’.

So I proved it wasn’t “just Lancashire and Yorkshire”. So, wrong again.

The grooming is against non Muslim children. You’ve failed to acknowledge that as an issue. Interesting.

Your welcome to your 20,000 Syrians, with Isis members included. Many of whom will have a life time on benefits without making a single contribution.

And then their off spring need looking after, more money. Then there’s the polygamous relationships which includes great benefits such as a full single persons allowance for each wife.

Living off the taxpayers, who have to work till their 70 to get their pension. Now that’s equality.

I think paranoia fits very well in your case, we aren’t being invaded, we are taking in a few of the 4 million displaced people, hardly an invasion.
I never said we should ignore the problems you mention, then again what have you “proved”? You put a list of towns & cities, one of which I live in and, as it happens, have never saw, heard or read about as being involved in it, so the chaos are you’ve picked the out of the air trying to use them as “facts”. You won’t recognise it as a criminal act, rather see it as a Muslim, & therefore a religious act. What if the perpetrators were Chinese, German, French, or Irish, would that get your back up as much?
You seem to think that none of these people will work while others seem to think it’s a government ploy to get cheap labour into the country, it can’t be both can it?
You remind me of those people you see carrying signs “the end is nigh”, eventually, when the world comes to an end they’ll say " I told you so"

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raymundo:

Guiy de Montfort:
The future of Britain and of much of Europe really scares me.

Do we have a future that our forbears fought and died for ? No, I think they died in vain. Modern day globalisation has seen to that.

The reality of ‘Globalisation’ is actually just appeasement of Socialism in which the ‘Capitalists’ perceive that they have more to gain by colluding with it than they have to lose by fighting it.IE doing what’s needed in telling China to zb off and do one as we did in the case of North Korea and Vietnam would probably create a few ‘issues’.In addition to seeing things like putting Socialist infiltrators like Merkel in charge of Europe’s future direction for what they really are.On that note if I’ve read it right you’re actually supportive of Merkel’s plans regarding immigration policy at least. :unamused:

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No I am NOT in support of the ‘alleged’ Merkel plan if it even exists. The report I was referring to was someone’s opinion based on facts as he saw it, he may be correct or he may not be in his assumption unlike 'he who knows all, and impossible to be talking crap half the time. I am sure you know to whom I refer?

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raymundo:
No I am NOT in support of the ‘alleged’ Merkel plan if it even exists. The report I was referring to was someone’s opinion based on facts as he saw it, he may be correct or he may not be in his assumption unlike 'he who knows all, and impossible to be talking crap half the time. I am sure you know to whom I refer?

As I read it the ‘report’ which you’re referring to was just more pro immigration propaganda bs.Along the lines of Germany can no longer support itself because it doesn’t have enough or bright enough workers.So lets import a load of Arabs who’ve shown what a zb up they’ve made of their own place to fix the non existent problem.Bearing in mind a German unemployment figure currently in the millions. :unamused:

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robroy:

Carryfast:

robroy:
The Commandant at Auschwitz Rudolf Hoess on trial for his life did not deny it to defend himself, the guards did not deny it, why not if it didn’t happen.

Or for that matter there wasn’t much point in all those SS guards massacred by the US army after the liberation of Dachau trying to say it didn’t happen,before they got a .45 bullet put in their head. :bulb: :wink:

How could they deny it anyway, the presence of piled up bodies in the camp, and the railway trucks with bodies that had been left to starve kind of refuted it, but maybe Bking will have an explanation for this, mass suicide maybe. :unamused:

Ever heard of Typhus.All transport was destroyed in Germany by allied (illegal) bombing by the good old “brits” of civilian centers so that no food or medical supplies could be deliverd to civilian centers never mind the internment camps(perfectly legal under international law britain had at least 15 to contain “german nationals”)The dead were due to the war crimes committed by the “allies” not the germans

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BillyHunt:
Well bugger me, (pun intended) The Catholic Church know this type of thing has gone on for many years but refused to give names to police.

Former bishop Peter Ball admits ■■■ offences
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34184967

+1
Blame the bogey man “muslims” never ever look at yourself

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Bking:

robroy:
Or for that matter there wasn’t much point in all those SS guards massacred by the US army after the liberation of Dachau trying to say it didn’t happen,before they got a .45 bullet put in their head. :bulb: :wink:

How could they deny it anyway, the presence of piled up bodies in the camp, and the railway trucks with bodies that had been left to starve kind of refuted it, but maybe Bking will have an explanation for this, mass suicide maybe. :unamused:

Ever heard of Typhus.All transport was destroyed in Germany by allied (illegal) bombing by the good old “brits” of civilian centers so that no food or medical supplies could be deliverd to civilian centers never mind the internment camps(perfectly legal under international law britain had at least 15 to contain “german nationals”)The dead were due to the war crimes committed by the “allies” not the germans
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So why didn’t Eichmann use that ‘evidence’ in his own defence case.As opposed to following orders.Probably at least because of inconvenient evidence like witness statements by the victims ( rightly ) stating death by murder not by natural causes. :unamused:

If you want to make the case for an illegal war at least make it credible.Along the lines of WW2 and Hitler’s rise to power and destabilisation of Germany,all being the foreseeable result of British and French aggression,in support of Russia,against Germany in 1914. :unamused:

Although I’d bet that your obvious bs pro Arab anti Jewish rhetoric would also go as far as to blame the Jewish nation for the fight for its survival in 1967 and 1973.Just as we didn’t have much option in having to go to war with Hitler.On that note its lucky for us that we had the engineering know how to build the Lancaster and then knew how to use it to best effect and not the zb Germans. :unamused:

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A recent study predicts that 10 percent of jobs in the UK will disappear due automation within the next 20 years. Odd the UK and Germany feel the need to add more to the work force with a dwindling future requirement. Especially as the majority of these jobs fall under the 30k threshold; the white collar and below.

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BillyHunt:

iearl504:
Why should I emigrate?

My grandparents fought in the war and protected their people, I have more a right to be here than any invader.

Oh that old chestnut, ‘paranoia’. Getting tiresome and boring. In other words you’re saying ‘yeah it does happen but just ignore it, let’s not rock the boat’.

So I proved it wasn’t “just Lancashire and Yorkshire”. So, wrong again.

The grooming is against non Muslim children. You’ve failed to acknowledge that as an issue. Interesting.

Your welcome to your 20,000 Syrians, with Isis members included. Many of whom will have a life time on benefits without making a single contribution.

And then their off spring need looking after, more money. Then there’s the polygamous relationships which includes great benefits such as a full single persons allowance for each wife.

Living off the taxpayers, who have to work till their 70 to get their pension. Now that’s equality.

I think paranoia fits very well in your case, we aren’t being invaded, we are taking in a few of the 4 million displaced people, hardly an invasion.
I never said we should ignore the problems you mention, then again what have you “proved”? You put a list of towns & cities, one of which I live in and, as it happens, have never saw, heard or read about as being involved in it, so the chaos are you’ve picked the out of the air trying to use them as “facts”. You won’t recognise it as a criminal act, rather see it as a Muslim, & therefore a religious act. What if the perpetrators were Chinese, German, French, or Irish, would that get your back up as much?
You seem to think that none of these people will work while others seem to think it’s a government ploy to get cheap labour into the country, it can’t be both can it?
You remind me of those people you see carrying signs “the end is nigh”, eventually, when the world comes to an end they’ll say " I told you so"

As I’ve mentioned previously I would have no problem speaking out against anyone who committed these crimes, they happen to be Muslim, that’s not my problem.

This seems to bother you more than anything.

Displaced people? What? the Pakistanis that are throwing their passports away along with other non Syrians?

Have you saw some of the footage? Many men in their 30s, many with posh haircuts, smartphones, ■■■■ hanging from their gob, throwing away aid. Tough being a refugee isn’t it?

On the subject of paranoia, my girlfriend works in a school, she has a lot of paperwork on looking for signs of ‘extremism’. If only all the security services would listen to you, they might learn something. [emoji57]

There’s been over 26,000 terror attacks since 9/11, all by muslims, if you can find any other group that does anything near that scale, don’t hesitate to post will you?

There are solid facts to back up my claims, you on the other hand, have nothing. If you want to turn the other way in the face of blatant disdain for the British population, then that is your problem.

So you’re happy to have terrorists coming into the country (Isis said they will do this), after all, there won’t be any issues letting an alien culture with no concept of Western civilisation from some of the most backward countries in the world will there?

You’re either A) a left wing loon that would love to see this country commit demographic and cultural suicide.

Or B) you’re an immigrant yourself.

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Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?

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dailymail.co.uk/news/article … Syria.html
While you cant really take media articles at face value (esp the Daily mail!) this illistrates my main concern. Operating a free border policy for war fleeing refugees is effectively giving a green light for everyone and anyone to start flocking to europe. It is being seen as a perfect loophole for many who have no urgent need to move but simply see the EU as a land of milk and honey. Its a bit like having a crowd of 100 people at a bus stop all wanting the first bus that arrives. It only has finite room for, say, 20. But how to you only allow 20 on and stop the other 80? Answer, you cant. Once you open the door, they all surge forward and push on till there is mass overcrowding. And that is what will happen if there is ever a “come on in, we wont stop you” policy adapted.
Look at them all rioting, throwing rocks etc just because they dont want to be kept in Hungary or moved to an immigration camp. If they were REALLY desperate and with nothing but the clothes on their back, you’d think they’d be a bit more grateful and wait till things could be sorted.
If we open the borders, does anyone REALLY think the government will absorb the cost? Will they hell. All of our taxes will rise to pay for it. And the NHS? It can barely cope just now. We can say bye bye to that once it becomes to much of a financial strain. So we will all be like America. Paying a fortune in insurance fees only for them to refuse to pay out in the event you need to make a claim due to a cold you had in '85 that you didnt tell them about.
I do feel sympathy for some of the refugees but unfortunately the whole situation is being abused by many who just don’t like where they live at present.

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BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?

thereligionofpeace.com/

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BillyHunt:
Well I’m not left wing, you don’t get many Tory voters that are I believe. As I can only trace my family back to the 1700s, a combination of English & scots, it depends on how far you want to go back before you decide if I’m non immigrant enough for you.
26000! Where did you pluck that number from? And how many of those were in the UK? because that’s all we are interested in aren’t we.
So, you pointed out all the problems, as you see them, what is your solution?

It seems obvious that the so called lines of left v right are just a corrupted,hijacked categorisation that are no longer relevant.On that note the idea that immigration is supposedly good for the working class is just a symptom of the socialist agenda having hijacked the definition of ‘left’ to promote their own ideology and agenda.Which is anything but good for the ‘working class’.As for the Cons they are obviously as pro immigration as the socialists just for different reasons.

As for what is the answer.What is so difficult to understand about saying enough no more and it’s now a job for the military to protect our borders regarding what is effectively an invasion.Although that obviously doesn’t suit the Socialist/cheap labour alliance pro immigration agenda. :unamused: