Terry T:
And perhaps we’d have more room/tolerance for genuine refugees as well as employment for them if we hadn’t been flooded by eastern europeans for the last decade or so.
Flooding the country with third world African and Asian immigration ,while denying free movement of our own between the colonies,has been going on for long before we were even part of the EU let alone the East Euro expansion of it.
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
As for your solution to the refugees It’s leave the EU and simply tell the rest to go home! Yes, I’m sure that will work a treat, don’t know why nobody thought of that before. For some reason I expected a little more. Basically your the same as the rest, happy to whinge & whine about the situation but not a single clue about how to repair it. You & sir Nige make a great couple.Considering that your solution is obviously that of the Con Party faithful,being do what Merkel says in letting em all in.I’m not surprised that you wouldn’t want to hear,understand,or accept any view to the contrary.The fact is the Cons are a bigger threat to the future of this country than zb Corbyn.
It’s not a case of not wanting to hear, understand or accept any view opposing letting them all in, a view I’ve never, ever stated btw, more a case of you all regurgitating the same stuff post after post & the best solution all of your brains can come up with is “just tell them not to come here”. Call me a fool but I’m not sure that approach will succeed. Next best, send the army to guard the ports of entry. Can any of you really seeing that happen? As their appear to be more of the public willing to let them in than there are wanting to keep them out, it’s not going to happen either.
As for my solution, that’s easy, I don’t have one. I do know that we alone won’t stop it, nor will any single country, it will take a big effort from all European countries, as well as Russia and the US, to get the fighting stopped & these people returned home.
BillyHunt:
It’s not a case of not wanting to hear, understand or accept any view opposing letting them all in, a view I’ve never, ever stated btw, more a case of you all regurgitating the same stuff post after post & the best solution all of your brains can come up with is “just tell them not to come here”. Call me a fool but I’m not sure that approach will succeed. Next best, send the army to guard the ports of entry. Can any of you really seeing that happen? As their appear to be more of the public willing to let them in than there are wanting to keep them out, it’s not going to happen either.
As for my solution, that’s easy, I don’t have one. I do know that we alone won’t stop it, nor will any single country, it will take a big effort from all European countries, as well as Russia and the US, to get the fighting stopped & these people returned home.
You don’t have an answer.But you think it’s too much to ask that the military do their job of stopping invasion of our borders in whatever form.While also somehow reaching the conclusion that the majority of the electorate are supposedly in favour of letting em all in. 
When it’s obvious that at best the pro immigration vote is made up of a combination and alliance of the immigrant vote looking to increase its demographic to the point of electoral majorities,bleeding heart socialists,and Cons looking to flood the labour market with yet more cheap labour.Assuming that agenda is already a supposed majority as you say then the country no longer exists as a nation state.In which case it would be no surprise that pro immigration agenda would be against the idea of ‘we want our country back’.With your views regarding the UKIP vote showing clearly which side you are on in that simple two sided argument.
BillyHunt:
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
As for your solution to the refugees It’s leave the EU and simply tell the rest to go home! Yes, I’m sure that will work a treat, don’t know why nobody thought of that before. For some reason I expected a little more. Basically your the same as the rest, happy to whinge & whine about the situation but not a single clue about how to repair it. You & sir Nige make a great couple.Considering that your solution is obviously that of the Con Party faithful,being do what Merkel says in letting em all in.I’m not surprised that you wouldn’t want to hear,understand,or accept any view to the contrary.The fact is the Cons are a bigger threat to the future of this country than zb Corbyn.
It’s not a case of not wanting to hear, understand or accept any view opposing letting them all in, a view I’ve never, ever stated btw, more a case of you all regurgitating the same stuff post after post & the best solution all of your brains can come up with is “just tell them not to come here”. Call me a fool but I’m not sure that approach will succeed. Next best, send the army to guard the ports of entry. Can any of you really seeing that happen? As their appear to be more of the public willing to let them in than there are wanting to keep them out, it’s not going to happen either.
As for my solution, that’s easy, I don’t have one. I do know that we alone won’t stop it, nor will any single country, it will take a big effort from all European countries, as well as Russia and the US, to get the fighting stopped & these people returned home.
Your school of thought seems to be you don’t believe you can’t do anything about it so you criticise anyone who does talk about it unless they have a solution.
The pen is mightier than the sword? Mighty oaks, small acorns etc? Any discussion about it is useful. Discussion is allowed it seems. Is it only allowed if you’re talking up the usual liberal crowings? A bit like the crocodile tears-crying woman on radio 2 responding to a single press photo as if that were the day suffering began and stopped. The woman who started a snivel fest and crushed any descenter, anyone who rang in to suggest she may just be being talking out of her dramatic and schadenfreude arse?
If you’re going to start dictating that people shouldn’t talk about things lest they have solutions then you’re first step to gagging the showing of opinion. It’s enough you can’t say anything less than uber liberal these days without being dramatically vilified.
Not at all, discussion about any given subject is fine, but endlessly repeating the same diatribe is pointless. It’s as if they keep repeating their version of events it will somehow change the outcome. How many more times do you have to read “they should stay at home & fight” “they are all young men, probably Isis terrorists, that we are letting in” etc etc. After 11 pages of the same I just thought, wrongly as it turns out, that at least one of them might have something different to say. Yes they can copy links & put in some dodgy facts to back up what they think, but that still doesn’t come near solving the problem, not even close. It’s all about the negative, the downside, the bad never the good. I just prefer not to swim with the tide, give an opposing view, try to be a glass half full type rather than the doom & gloom merchants in some of these pages.
If you’ve read any of these pages you will know I’ve wrote emails to various government officials stating my views, if anyone wants something done you have to, not whine away on a trucking forum viewed by few people.
If all that makes me loony left, liberal, or a Tory fool, other names are available, then so be it, but don’t expect me to change.
Tis not trucknet unless someone complaining. Noticed all the moaning threads get the most views 
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BillyHunt:
Not at all, discussion about any given subject is fine, but endlessly repeating the same diatribe is pointless. It’s as if they keep repeating their version of events it will somehow change the outcome. How many more times do you have to read “they should stay at home & fight” “they are all young men, probably Isis terrorists, that we are letting in” etc etc. After 11 pages of the same I just thought, wrongly as it turns out, that at least one of them might have something different to say. Yes they can copy links & put in some dodgy facts to back up what they think, but that still doesn’t come near solving the problem, not even close. It’s all about the negative, the downside, the bad never the good. I just prefer not to swim with the tide, give an opposing view, try to be a glass half full type rather than the doom & gloom merchants in some of these pages.
If you’ve read any of these pages you will know I’ve wrote emails to various government officials stating my views, if anyone wants something done you have to, not whine away on a trucking forum viewed by few people.
If all that makes me loony left, liberal, or a Tory fool, other names are available, then so be it, but don’t expect me to change.
As I said bearing in mind the scenes on Europe’s borders the immigration issue is now finally reaching the inevitable simple two sided argument of anti v pro immigration.In which case why would anyone on the anti side of that argument bother with trying to influence the policy,of the political party that just happens to be in power,because of a corrupted form of democracy that has shown itself to be on the pro side of that argument.When it’s obviously only UKIP and the FN which show any inclination towards the anti side of that argument.In which case,for anyone on that side of the argument it is their policies which their supporters will ( rightly ) continue to state.Just as the pro immigration lot continue to state their’s.On that note it is equally obvious that such an opposing entrenched two sided argument will result in each opposing side telling the other that they are using bs to back their position.
However the facts seem to speak for themselves.The pro immigration side of that argument has at worse kicked off what is effectively an invasion of Europe.By an alien,probably hostile either in the form of takeover by demographic,or by force,or possibly both,population influx.Or at best caused an increase in population levels which will have a severe adverse effect on the resources available to maintain the indigenous population and therefore living standards across the board.
On that note Cameron can stuff his anti immigration ‘petition’ and I’ll just keep stating Farage’s call that we want our country back.Which will obviously mean that we have to fix our broken system of so called ‘democracy’.Which has obviously allowed the pro immigration minority,made up of socialists and the cheap labour employment lobby,to hijack the country’s system of government.
That’s assuming the immigrant vote hasn’t already reached critical mass of forming a majority in its own right and now intends to cement its position by calling for the present all out invasion.In which case it’s too late for the anti side of the immigration argument to say be careful what you wish for.Because you’ve already got it.
See what I mean, regurgitation of self made “facts”. Same incomprehensible guff put down in a different order. The only hope comes from parties with no power whatsoever. The only fact is that this has become yet another pointless exercise.
Isn’t it funny, on this colossal thread, not one person has came up with a single benefit of 3rd world immigration…
Just the usual smugness of occupying some imaginary moral high ground, banging on and on without any substance to their arguments.
bearing in mind the scenes on Europe’s borders the immigration issue is now finally reaching the inevitable simple two sided argument of anti v pro immigration.In which case why would anyone on the anti side of that argument bother with trying to influence the policy,of the political party that just happens to be in power,because of a corrupted form of democracy that has shown itself to be on the pro side of that argument.When it’s obviously only UKIP and the FN which show any inclination towards the anti side of that argument.In which case,for anyone on that side of the argument it is their policies which their supporters will ( rightly ) continue to state.Just as the pro immigration lot continue to state their’s.On that note it is equally obvious that such an opposing entrenched two sided argument will result in each opposing side telling the other that they are using bs to back their position.
However the facts seem to speak for themselves.The pro immigration side of that argument has at worse kicked off what is effectively an invasion of Europe.By an alien,probably hostile either in the form of takeover by demographic,or by force,or possibly both,population influx.Or at best caused an increase in population levels which will have a severe adverse effect on the resources available to maintain the indigenous population and therefore living standards across the board.
On that note Cameron can stuff his anti immigration ‘petition’ and I’ll just keep stating Farage’s call that we want our country back.Which will obviously mean that we have to fix our broken system of so called ‘democracy’.Which has obviously allowed the pro immigration minority,made up of socialists and the cheap labour employment lobby,to hijack the country’s system of government.
That’s assuming the immigrant vote hasn’t already reached critical mass of forming a majority in its own right and now intends to cement its position by calling for the present all out invasion.In which case it’s too late for the anti side of the immigration argument to say be careful what you wish for.Because you’ve already got it.
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+1 spot on there.part of the problem is also the fact that none of these parasites flooding in are going to be living next door,or possibly in the surrounding areas to mr camerons life,and its unlikely that his pension of benefits will ever be affected as him and his cronies tend to live in a different world from the rest of the populace.plus there that many of them in now that whoever kicks off about wanting them ejected forthwith will immediately loose the votes from them and they will all vote for the other side.( check the runners for londons new mayor,i don’t think itl be anyone looking like a London mayor).britains been finished these last 10 years,its only now your average joe bloggs can grasp it…if only i could be king for a while…at every entry point whether it was docks,ports,airports,or wherever you might fall off of an axle,there would be big massive signs in 20 foot high letters saying…dont bother to unpack…your going back…we wouldnt be in this mess if adolf hadnt been afraid of the ruskies before overrunning us here.
iearl504:
Isn’t it funny, on this colossal thread, not one person has came up with a single benefit of 3rd world immigration…
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It’ll now give the UK Romanians someone to moan about There ya go.
James the cat:
iearl504:
Isn’t it funny, on this colossal thread, not one person has came up with a single benefit of 3rd world immigration…
.It’ll now give the UK Romanians someone to moan about [emoji38] There ya go.
Ahh, touche [emoji38]
dieseldog999:
we wouldnt be in this mess if adolf hadnt been afraid of the ruskies before overrunning us here.
Ironically Adolf was a Socialist just like Stalin.The common link being an anti Jewish pro Islamic/Arab stance. 
It’s like watching these happy chappies.
youtube.com/watch?v=w7RIgs3eygo