good idea
raymundo:
I’ve nothing to hide, my class 1 expired a couple or so years ago and due to the dreaded drivers CPC and having to take an extended hospital medical I never renewed it. (plus the fact I can earn nearly three times as much elsewhere for doing absolutely next to nowt).
Should I cancel my membership of Trucknet ?
If you can turn me on to £1800 quid a week for doing naff all, i`ll split it 50/50 with you every Friday. Deal?
I don’t get that much but there are jobs in my line of work that can pay that sort of money, if I were younger that’s what I’d be doing. For instance driving one of them windcat boats on some of the offshore windfarm complexes, £300 a aday !!
The reason I said I get paid for doing next to nowt is because the one I drive is so weather dependent over half the time it’s not good enough for us to sail as she was built as a passenger an vehicle ferry around the Greek Islands not the west coast of Scotland. Most boring job I’ve ever had.
BillyHunt:
I see you have trouble with figures as well as reading, the post I mentioned by number was page 8, that’s eight, first post on page eight, not half way down 7, that’s seven. Neither post mentions nazis in any form so I don’t know how you make the link, no change there I suppose, you’re well known for missing out relevant parts of posts that don’t fit your warped sense. I’ve never mentioned merkel or nazis, not once.
Are you saying you did vote ukip? Simple question, simple answer, one word.
The only hordes I see are hordes of paranoid posters on here, unwilling to do anything but whine on a truckers forum, oddly named given the number of posters that don’t drive trucks, hence my post about let’s all just kill ourselves now or kill everyone else, that’s the post you marked up by the way, how that links to the ■■■■ credo is a link forged in your brain cell.
Yes I did vote for UKIP.
Explain how you made the link between the idea of anti immigration and murdering foreign people ‘to preserve our Island nation’ without that effectively meaning nazis.IE the comment seemed to be written from a pro immigration perspective and made a clear obvious inference between anti immigration and murder.
Why would you have thought along those lines assuming that you seem to be saying that you are supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument yourself.
Last but not least no one who is supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument would vote for Cameron instead of Farage even Farage being too soft in that regard.So as I said Cameron can stuff his rigged petition being that the Cons are obviously a pro immigration party.
Evolved:
good idea
Love it. 
That would show how peaceful and tolerant they really are.
Don’t really want to get involved with this thread too much, as it appears to have been totally ‘Carryfasted’ 
…but here goes. Firstly I’m reluctantly going to use the old …‘‘I’m not a racist but’’ (actually I am anything but a racist, so believe me or not, I don’t give a ■■■■)
As for integration etc, on one hand I get on great with the local lads in my Indian restaurant, talk football, have a laugh etc, and even get a free meal off them at …wait for it…Christmas, not a problem, everybody getting on together great.
On the other hand these ■■■■■■■■ that demonstrate on our streets about Sharia law etc, and especially those arse holes shouting abuse at our troops on their Afghan homecoming march past, really offend me big time as a proud Brit.
I am also tired of hearing how Islam is supposedly a ‘peaceful religion’ I put it to those that say this, that when you look at I.S. for instance, the ‘I’ being Islam, the beheadings, murders, rapes, bombings etc all involving non combatant innocent civilians, that it is in fact… NOT.
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
I see you have trouble with figures as well as reading, the post I mentioned by number was page 8, that’s eight, first post on page eight, not half way down 7, that’s seven. Neither post mentions nazis in any form so I don’t know how you make the link, no change there I suppose, you’re well known for missing out relevant parts of posts that don’t fit your warped sense. I’ve never mentioned merkel or nazis, not once.
Are you saying you did vote ukip? Simple question, simple answer, one word.
The only hordes I see are hordes of paranoid posters on here, unwilling to do anything but whine on a truckers forum, oddly named given the number of posters that don’t drive trucks, hence my post about let’s all just kill ourselves now or kill everyone else, that’s the post you marked up by the way, how that links to the ■■■■ credo is a link forged in your brain cell.Yes I did vote for UKIP.
Explain how you made the link between the idea of anti immigration and murdering foreign people ‘to preserve our Island nation’ without that effectively meaning nazis.IE the comment seemed to be written from a pro immigration perspective and made a clear obvious inference between anti immigration and murder.
Why would you have thought along those lines assuming that you seem to be saying that you are supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument yourself.
Last but not least no one who is supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument would vote for Cameron instead of Farage even Farage being too soft in that regard.So as I said Cameron can stuff his rigged petition being that the Cons are obviously a pro immigration party.
I didn’t make the link as there was no link to be made, apart from what you incorrectly read into things people post. I simply responded to the post prior to the one you highlighted, the one where the poster seems to be about to commit suicide, taking his family with him, at the prospect of the, non existent, muslim hordes over running the place, it’s a few thousand at most, Sunderland get more at a home game ffs! There is no inference, no nazism, no pro immigration stance, other than in your head, just a reaction to paranoia.
I’m not even going to bother telling you what I have written to various people in government, you twist the most minor post on here into something ridiculous, so that would be a waste of time.
And there is your problem in one, you only support parties with only one point to make, in this case immigration again. The government has to deal with plenty other things, immigration being just one, and small one idea parties like ukip couldn’t even envisage dealing with the countries other problems & that’s why they will never get into a position to do anything other than stand outside looking in.
iearl504:
BillyHunt:
None taken, you don’t see many other religions buggering alter boys but it seems to be a favourite of catholic priests. I saw plenty running around with bombs & guns a few short years ago right on your doorstep, do you actively discourage the Irish coming here?I’m no fan of any religion, (atheist) they’re all poison - but none hold as much venom as Islam. That seems to bother you for some reason?
Stop diverting the attention off of the subject matter, is Islam good for the UK or not?
Just found this, you really must learn to preview what your going to post, just so it looks all nice & tidy. Happy to help.
Given what I’ve posted earlier about religion it’s a bit of a stupid question really but hey ho. I don’t think any religion is any good, I don’t think any religion does any good, I don’t believe in any god or believe there is any such thing as a god. That said I don’t really care what anyone else believes in, it’s not as if they would stop just because I don’t like it is it.
You don’t care for the Muslim faith but have you ever read some of the stuff in the bible? As I’ve said before its all open to interpretation by the reader, none of them are any good, all preach peace & are willing to kill anyone that disagrees with them. We Brits have killed a fair few in our time in the name of some fictitious gods.
BillyHunt:
iearl504:
BillyHunt:
None taken, you don’t see many other religions buggering alter boys but it seems to be a favourite of catholic priests. I saw plenty running around with bombs & guns a few short years ago right on your doorstep, do you actively discourage the Irish coming here?I’m no fan of any religion, (atheist) they’re all poison - but none hold as much venom as Islam. That seems to bother you for some reason?
Stop diverting the attention off of the subject matter, is Islam good for the UK or not?
Just found this, you really must learn to preview what your going to post, just so it looks all nice & tidy. Happy to help.
Given what I’ve posted earlier about religion it’s a bit of a stupid question really but hey ho. I don’t think any religion is any good, I don’t think any religion does any good, I don’t believe in any god or believe there is any such thing as a god. That said I don’t really care what anyone else believes in, it’s not as if they would stop just because I don’t like it is it.
You don’t care for the Muslim faith but have you ever read some of the stuff in the bible? As I’ve said before its all open to interpretation by the reader, none of them are any good, all preach peace & are willing to kill anyone that disagrees with them. We Brits have killed a fair few in our time in the name of some fictitious gods.
I have read parts of the Bible and yes I agree, but as I stated before I do not see Christians wreaking havoc across the globe right now so it’s kind of pointless me talking about them.
If they were being violent I’d have no problem pointing that out. I have no bias.
I’m just calling Islam as I see it, a fascist ideology that seeks to conquer. Not my opinion, just a fact. Isis represent Islam to a T.
As for your half baked thoughts on the future of this country, it’s pretty simple - muslims are having more children than British couples, a lot more.
Projections put them as a majority in this country in the latter half of the century. Possibly before then. Then, with immigration piled on top, we could never maintain a majority in the long term.
It really isn’t that hard to fathom. Basic stuff.
BillyHunt:
Carryfast:
Yes I did vote for UKIP.Explain how you made the link between the idea of anti immigration and murdering foreign people ‘to preserve our Island nation’ without that effectively meaning nazis.IE the comment seemed to be written from a pro immigration perspective and made a clear obvious inference between anti immigration and murder.
Why would you have thought along those lines assuming that you seem to be saying that you are supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument yourself.
Last but not least no one who is supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument would vote for Cameron instead of Farage even Farage being too soft in that regard.So as I said Cameron can stuff his rigged petition being that the Cons are obviously a pro immigration party.
I didn’t make the link as there was no link to be made, apart from what you incorrectly read into things people post. I simply responded to the post prior to the one you highlighted, the one where the poster seems to be about to commit suicide, taking his family with him, at the prospect of the, non existent, muslim hordes over running the place, it’s a few thousand at most, Sunderland get more at a home game ffs! There is no inference, no nazism, no pro immigration stance, other than in your head, just a reaction to paranoia.
I’m not even going to bother telling you what I have written to various people in government, you twist the most minor post on here into something ridiculous, so that would be a waste of time.
And there is your problem in one, you only support parties with only one point to make, in this case immigration again. The government has to deal with plenty other things, immigration being just one, and small one idea parties like ukip couldn’t even envisage dealing with the countries other problems & that’s why they will never get into a position to do anything other than stand outside looking in.
Your statements regarding the numbers involved are about as believable as your claims that you weren’t making a typically Socialist/cheap labour pro immigration alliance inference and link between anti immigration = murderous ■■■■ ideology.
As usual you are reading things into posts that just are not there, no change there then, it’s what you’re well known for. I suppose I should look upon it as a compliment but I simply don’t think about it that deeply I’m afraid. You’re correct on the numbers though, 10,000 is the number quoted, as if Sunderland could get that many. Go on, analyse that & tell me what I really mean.
iearl504:
BillyHunt:
iearl504:
BillyHunt:
None taken, you don’t see many other religions buggering alter boys but it seems to be a favourite of catholic priests. I saw plenty running around with bombs & guns a few short years ago right on your doorstep, do you actively discourage the Irish coming here?I’m no fan of any religion, (atheist) they’re all poison - but none hold as much venom as Islam. That seems to bother you for some reason?
Stop diverting the attention off of the subject matter, is Islam good for the UK or not?
Just found this, you really must learn to preview what your going to post, just so it looks all nice & tidy. Happy to help.
Given what I’ve posted earlier about religion it’s a bit of a stupid question really but hey ho. I don’t think any religion is any good, I don’t think any religion does any good, I don’t believe in any god or believe there is any such thing as a god. That said I don’t really care what anyone else believes in, it’s not as if they would stop just because I don’t like it is it.
You don’t care for the Muslim faith but have you ever read some of the stuff in the bible? As I’ve said before its all open to interpretation by the reader, none of them are any good, all preach peace & are willing to kill anyone that disagrees with them. We Brits have killed a fair few in our time in the name of some fictitious gods.I have read parts of the Bible and yes I agree, but as I stated before I do not see Christians wreaking havoc across the globe right now so it’s kind of pointless me talking about them.
If they were being violent I’d have no problem pointing that out. I have no bias.
I’m just calling Islam as I see it, a fascist ideology that seeks to conquer. Not my opinion, just a fact. Isis represent Islam to a T.
As for your half baked thoughts on the future of this country, it’s pretty simple - muslims are having more children than British couples, a lot more.
Projections put them as a majority in this country in the latter half of the century. Possibly before then. Then, with immigration piled on top, we could never maintain a majority in the long term.
It really isn’t that hard to fathom. Basic stuff.
And your answer to it all is what exactly? If not even one more of these killers, and let’s face it they are all killers aren’t they, as they’re Muslims they cannot possibly be non violent, there are still millions here, what’s your solution to stopping them having children?
BillyHunt:
iearl504:
BillyHunt:
iearl504:
BillyHunt:
None taken, you don’t see many other religions buggering alter boys but it seems to be a favourite of catholic priests. I saw plenty running around with bombs & guns a few short years ago right on your doorstep, do you actively discourage the Irish coming here?I’m no fan of any religion, (atheist) they’re all poison - but none hold as much venom as Islam. That seems to bother you for some reason?
Stop diverting the attention off of the subject matter, is Islam good for the UK or not?
Just found this, you really must learn to preview what your going to post, just so it looks all nice & tidy. Happy to help.
Given what I’ve posted earlier about religion it’s a bit of a stupid question really but hey ho. I don’t think any religion is any good, I don’t think any religion does any good, I don’t believe in any god or believe there is any such thing as a god. That said I don’t really care what anyone else believes in, it’s not as if they would stop just because I don’t like it is it.
You don’t care for the Muslim faith but have you ever read some of the stuff in the bible? As I’ve said before its all open to interpretation by the reader, none of them are any good, all preach peace & are willing to kill anyone that disagrees with them. We Brits have killed a fair few in our time in the name of some fictitious gods.I have read parts of the Bible and yes I agree, but as I stated before I do not see Christians wreaking havoc across the globe right now so it’s kind of pointless me talking about them.
If they were being violent I’d have no problem pointing that out. I have no bias.
I’m just calling Islam as I see it, a fascist ideology that seeks to conquer. Not my opinion, just a fact. Isis represent Islam to a T.
As for your half baked thoughts on the future of this country, it’s pretty simple - muslims are having more children than British couples, a lot more.
Projections put them as a majority in this country in the latter half of the century. Possibly before then. Then, with immigration piled on top, we could never maintain a majority in the long term.
It really isn’t that hard to fathom. Basic stuff.
And your answer to it all is what exactly? If not even one more of these killers, and let’s face it they are all killers aren’t they, as they’re Muslims they cannot possibly be non violent, there are still millions here, what’s your solution to stopping them having children?
My answer? Well, the first logical step would to put a stop to mass third world immigration. Pretty obvious one. Also integration is key, I mean, speaking English should be a bare minimum requisite. This is a huge problem within their community, they do not integrate like the Sikhs and Hindus have.
Making up mock arguments against me won’t work, I.e - all muslims are killers. There are peaceful muslims, but the ones that are, are not following the Koran word for word. For something they consider the ‘perfect book’, any sane individual would worry if they saw the contents.
The problem lies in their ideology, nothing else.
As for their high birthrates, the first thing to do is cap benefits (I believe they’re implementing this) after 2 children. As you may not be aware, over 50% of Muslim population are unemployed, therefore the tax payer is funding this, no surprise there.
And I personally think it’s too far gone anyway, the best we can hope for is to slow down the exchange of our country. With a dithering muppet as our PM, what chance have we got. After every terror attack we get Dave’s boring narrative - “Islam is the religion of peace”. OK Dave I trust you, rather than my lying eyes.
BillyHunt:
what’s your solution
Being that you are supposedly on the anti immigration side of the argument and can differentiate anti immigration from nazism.You’ll obviously have no objections to a change in definition of nationality to jus sanguinis and a programme of re patriation of the immigrant problem to match.
Which in this case also means telling Merkel to zb off along the lines of if she and all the Germans ( doubtful ) really want them in Germany then they stay in Germany not here.Other than that they either go home and sort out the mess which they’ve made of their own countries and/or at least the Arab ‘refugee’ question is Saudi’s etc problem not ours.
iearl504:
I mean, speaking English should be a bare minimum requisite. This is a huge problem within their community, they do not integrate like the Sikhs and Hindus have.
The idea of thinking that ‘integration’ is the answer is just falling into the trap that the pro immigration agenda wants you to think.The fact is integration doesn’t work and is actually the opposite to what’s required.Which is why we have places like Southall and Brixton and even increasing areas of what was Middlesex and Surrey.Which is not just the result of the immigrant communities voting with their feet along natural ethnic segregationist lines but also the indigenous community in the form of so called ‘white flight’.
IE 'integration is a socialist idea that goes against all the laws of human nature.Which is why we have nation states and it’s the idea of the sanctity of the nation state over bs socialist doctrine which is the issue.
Carryfast:
iearl504:
I mean, speaking English should be a bare minimum requisite. This is a huge problem within their community, they do not integrate like the Sikhs and Hindus have.The idea of thinking that ‘integration’ is the answer is just falling into the trap that the pro immigration agenda wants you to think.The fact is integration doesn’t work and is actually the opposite to what’s required.Which is why we have places like Southall and Brixton and even increasing areas of what was Middlesex and Surrey.Which is not just the result of the immigrant communities voting with their feet along natural ethnic segregationist lines but also the indigenous community in the form of so called ‘white flight’.
IE 'integration is a socialist idea that goes against all the laws of human nature.Which is why we have nation states and it’s the idea of the sanctity of the nation state over bs socialist doctrine which is the issue.
I do believe integration is possible, but (and a very big but) only if the indigenous people form most of the country’s population. No exceptions. (No ghettos, enclaves, etc)
Obviously, it’s too late. But there’s no harm in trying to make the country a more pleasant place to live out our last days [emoji38]
iearl504:
Carryfast:
iearl504:
I mean, speaking English should be a bare minimum requisite. This is a huge problem within their community, they do not integrate like the Sikhs and Hindus have.The idea of thinking that ‘integration’ is the answer is just falling into the trap that the pro immigration agenda wants you to think.The fact is integration doesn’t work and is actually the opposite to what’s required.Which is why we have places like Southall and Brixton and even increasing areas of what was Middlesex and Surrey.Which is not just the result of the immigrant communities voting with their feet along natural ethnic segregationist lines but also the indigenous community in the form of so called ‘white flight’.
IE 'integration is a socialist idea that goes against all the laws of human nature.Which is why we have nation states and it’s the idea of the sanctity of the nation state over bs socialist doctrine which is the issue.
I do believe integration is possible, but (and a very big but) only if the indigenous people form most of the country’s population. No exceptions. (No ghettos, enclaves, etc)
Obviously, it’s too late. But there’s no harm in trying to make the country a more pleasant place to live out our last days [emoji38]
Ironically that would equate to de Valera having been right and the minority loyalist community in Northern Ireland being re settled/diluted evenly across Ireland with no localised majority loyalist presence and no such thing as Northern Ireland.Let alone putting the former Yugoslavia and pre partition India/Pakistan/Bangladesh or Arabia and Israel back together again.Or for that matter telling the Kurds that they are better off as an ethnic minority spread evenly throughout Turkey etc.Maybe now you’ll realise why integration won’t work and why this country is heading for a similar fate as the former Yugoslavia if we don’t sort out the immigration question while there still might be time.‘Sort out’ meaning the realisation that closing the doors and the repatriation word isn’t the same thing as what the nazis did. 
It only becomes a debate if the person you’re debating with actually listens to what you say. Otherwise it’s pretty pointless.
I originally came from SE London and growing up many of my friends were from the West Indies, I’m still friends with some of them to this day, thanks to the Internet, back in the day we all lived and played in the same streets, our parents worked and socialised together and everyone got along nicely.
I’m now an immigrant myself and although I get the odd ■■■■ off back to your own country, I don’t have a problem fitting in. At first I only had British friends and socialised in a small group, but as time has gone on I have befriended more and more locals and immigrants from other countries. Just this weekend I went to a BBQ to celebrate a British friend’s 10yr anniversary in Canada, there were Brits from all parts of the country, French, Germans, Swedes and Canadians there and everyone got along nicely. The wars and the World Cup got a mention, as did Agincourt and Ikea got a proper slagging off so the Swedes never felt left out.
So in my experience, I can honestly say that immigration works, even mass immigration in the case of my childhood where 50% of people in my hometown were black, but and it’s a big but, we all emigrated for the opportunity that was available in our chosen new home country.
That is the difference, the wave of recent immigration has been because of the benefits that immigrants are given, they don’t have to earn them, they don’t try to fit in, they want to carry on living the way they lived at home, but at the British Taxpayers expense and that is never going to work.
However, you cannot blame the immigrants, they’re only doing what they’re allowed to do. The fault lies with the elected representatives in government, plain and simple. They have shafted the British people big time, they had no right to offer them housing and benefits that you have payed into through taxes and national insurance.
Britain is supposed to be a democracy, but that is far from the truth, the only democratic part of it is the voting in of the politicians and that could be rigged for all we know, as soon as they get in they completely disregard the wishes of the people they are supposed to represent and it doesn’t matter if they are Conservative, Labour, Library Democrats or even UKIP, once they get in they all do the same and ■■■■ you over.
The system itself is broken and it cannot be fixed by ticking a box at election time, the only way to put things right is to completely change the system and withe the safeguards the establishment has put in place that isn’t possible to do democratically, the only way would be to take the country back by force and that won’t be possible either as the number of opposition, which would be the armed forces, the police and the immigrants is too big to conquer. So basically you’re all ■■■■■■ ed.
Here are a couple of photos I found.
The bottom one is London during the blitz, the top one is in Syria this week.
Did the Brits run to a safe haven? Or did they stand and fight? (I know we had national service and conscription, before the pedantic start going off on one)
the maoster:
It only becomes a debate if the person you’re debating with actually listens to what you say. Otherwise it’s pretty pointless.
