Still undecided.Probably because I think things have already reached the point where I’m alienated enough from my own supposed government to think that there’s no point in getting involved with a rigged foregone conclusion.In which the national interest has already been thrown to a combination of what the Chinese Communist Party says and Communist infiltration of the EU Merkel being the prime mover in that regard.IE it’s doubtful that this can even be sorted by the democratic electoral process being that process can no longer be trusted in such an environment let alone a petition.On that note the whole thing now depends on wether things can be turned around in that regard in France.If Le Pen wins out we ‘might’ have a chance.If not the idea of the nation state at least in Europe is probably finished and the Socialists have won.
Yes that’s the way forward, sit on your hands and do nothing, then hope, incorrectly, that the French will pull you out of the crap, because we all know they’re good at that. Doing nothing but complain, that’s the British way.
Let’s just say that there’s ( a lot ) more chance of the French seeing sense on the immigration question than the lost cause Brits.So not a case of sitting on my hands more like a vote of no confidence in the bs rigged Socialist infiltrated UK and EU government system.Of which the ‘petition’ in question is just a part.
As for you why would you have any interest whatsoever in the anti immigration side of the argument when you’re obviously all about letting them all in just like Merkel and her grovelling helper Cameron.
iearl504:
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
I think you’re underestimating the ‘combination’ of the immigrant situation facing the country.The Muslims being just one side of that.We’ve actually got an established and ever increasing multi sided immigrant population made up of some of the most hostile unstable cultures and societies in the world.With the current issues just accelerating that.IE think along the lines of Yugoslavia being the likely future of this country.In which the indigenous population become just another player in the inevitable future inter ethnic clashes and resulting carve up of the country.
iearl504:
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
I think you’re underestimating the ‘combination’ of the immigrant situation facing the country.The Muslims being just one side of that.We’ve actually got an established and ever increasing multi sided immigrant population made up of some of the most hostile unstable cultures and societies in the world.With the current issues just accelerating that.IE think along the lines of Yugoslavia being the likely future of this country.In which the indigenous population become just another player in the inevitable future inter ethnic clashes and resulting carve up of the country.
I do agree, especially in London that’s apparent, Harringey, Thamesmead and others come to mind, The fragmentation is off the scale, our country has now become somewhat of a pressure cooker rather than a melting pot. Having all these cultures, nationalities, religions in on a densely populated island is a recipe for disaster. Yes, Yugoslavia is a good example.
But I do believe Islam is the main driving force in every town and city, and you’ll find that where ever they have settled they completely change the face of the area, never to be reversed. If there’s a place that has been ‘unislamised’ I’d love to hear about it. Same all over the world.
Most of my family are originally from what are now Muslim enclaves, and every few years I notice more and more areas are gradually being colonised with a new mosque to boot, it just will not stop, ever. And that is what worries me for the future.
does anyone actually have a solution to this ‘mass migration’ of a religion?
considering the government is too PC to say or do anything?
i personally have no problems with people coming here to work etc… but i do think about towns like Luton and Slough… and i think Bradford?.. whats happening in those places…
Mayhaps the Buddhists are keeping a low profile, just biding their time and waiting for the right moment in history to pull the rug out from underneath us all? Now, where did i put my tablets…■■
BillyHunt:
Do you mean the verses in the Koran? I’ve no idea what’s in the Koran, or the bible or any religious books, I’ve not read any. I don’t need to place any faith in any alleged God or deity, I’ve seen too much from all faiths to have anything but distain for any religion. People will commit the most heinous crimes in the name of religion, but they are still just people, driven by their own ideas of gain, what book they read, the clothes they wear or the buildings they do it in is irrelevant. You could say catholic priests have ruined more lives in this country than any amount of Muslims could.
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
Thats the trouble with religion, all their books are open to abuse, the readers take it as they see fit, there are plenty examples. Ask any normal Muslim, they will tell you the Koran is a religion of peace, the bible preaches peace but says an eye for an eye.
My view is that sharia law will never become the norm in this country, I think those that do are paranoid & I don’t care if that upsets anyone.
Still undecided.Probably because I think things have already reached the point where I’m alienated enough from my own supposed government to think that there’s no point in getting involved with a rigged foregone conclusion.In which the national interest has already been thrown to a combination of what the Chinese Communist Party says and Communist infiltration of the EU Merkel being the prime mover in that regard.IE it’s doubtful that this can even be sorted by the democratic electoral process being that process can no longer be trusted in such an environment let alone a petition.On that note the whole thing now depends on wether things can be turned around in that regard in France.If Le Pen wins out we ‘might’ have a chance.If not the idea of the nation state at least in Europe is probably finished and the Socialists have won.
Yes that’s the way forward, sit on your hands and do nothing, then hope, incorrectly, that the French will pull you out of the crap, because we all know they’re good at that. Doing nothing but complain, that’s the British way.
Let’s just say that there’s ( a lot ) more chance of the French seeing sense on the immigration question than the lost cause Brits.So not a case of sitting on my hands more like a vote of no confidence in the bs rigged Socialist infiltrated UK and EU government system.Of which the ‘petition’ in question is just a part.
As for you why would you have any interest whatsoever in the anti immigration side of the argument when you’re obviously all about letting them all in just like Merkel and her grovelling helper Cameron.
Yes just pass it off as another thing not worth doing as its all rigged just to get your back up, meanwhile others are doing something about it, how typical you’re all bull & no action. I take it you missed my earlier posts about my stance on immigration. You really are clueless.
BillyHunt:
Do you mean the verses in the Koran? I’ve no idea what’s in the Koran, or the bible or any religious books, I’ve not read any. I don’t need to place any faith in any alleged God or deity, I’ve seen too much from all faiths to have anything but distain for any religion. People will commit the most heinous crimes in the name of religion, but they are still just people, driven by their own ideas of gain, what book they read, the clothes they wear or the buildings they do it in is irrelevant. You could say catholic priests have ruined more lives in this country than any amount of Muslims could.
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
Thats the trouble with religion, all their books are open to abuse, the readers take it as they see fit, there are plenty examples. Ask any normal Muslim, they will tell you the Koran is a religion of peace, the bible preaches peace but says an eye for an eye.
My view is that sharia law will never become the norm in this country, I think those that do are paranoid & I don’t care if that upsets anyone.
Yes all religions are open to interpretation, but then again can you see other groups cutting people’s heads off, en masse? Running around France with kalashnikovs and all the rest. Nah.
Your bull crap excuses for not seeing a clear threat are pathetically transparent, you’re a deluded fool.
Oh, sharia courts are already here, maybe they’ll dissappear along with their growing population? Jesus christ…
Carryfast:
Let’s just say that there’s ( a lot ) more chance of the French seeing sense on the immigration question than the lost cause Brits.So not a case of sitting on my hands more like a vote of no confidence in
Yes just pass it off as another thing not worth doing as its all rigged just to get your back up, meanwhile others are doing something about it, how typical you’re all bull & no action. I take it you missed my earlier posts about my stance on immigration. You really are clueless.
Remind me again of your ‘stance on immigration’ anti v pro if I’ve got it wrong.While as I said no I don’t think that signing any bs petition will make any difference to the foregone conclusion which Merkel wants.The blanket change in status from illegal immigrants firstly to migrants and now ‘refugees’ all being part of her agenda.
BillyHunt:
Do you mean the verses in the Koran? I’ve no idea what’s in the Koran, or the bible or any religious books, I’ve not read any. I don’t need to place any faith in any alleged God or deity, I’ve seen too much from all faiths to have anything but distain for any religion. People will commit the most heinous crimes in the name of religion, but they are still just people, driven by their own ideas of gain, what book they read, the clothes they wear or the buildings they do it in is irrelevant. You could say catholic priests have ruined more lives in this country than any amount of Muslims could.
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
Thats the trouble with religion, all their books are open to abuse, the readers take it as they see fit, there are plenty examples. Ask any normal Muslim, they will tell you the Koran is a religion of peace, the bible preaches peace but says an eye for an eye.
My view is that sharia law will never become the norm in this country, I think those that do are paranoid & I don’t care if that upsets anyone.
Yes all religions are open to interpretation, but then again can you see other groups cutting people’s heads off, en masse? Running around France with kalashnikovs and all the rest. Nah.
Your bull crap excuses for not seeing a clear threat are pathetically transparent, you’re a deluded fool.
Oh, sharia courts are already here, maybe they’ll dissappear along with their growing population? Jesus christ…
None taken, you don’t see many other religions buggering alter boys but it seems to be a favourite of catholic priests. I saw plenty running around with bombs & guns a few short years ago right on your doorstep, do you actively discourage the Irish coming here?
Carryfast:
Let’s just say that there’s ( a lot ) more chance of the French seeing sense on the immigration question than the lost cause Brits.So not a case of sitting on my hands more like a vote of no confidence in
Yes just pass it off as another thing not worth doing as its all rigged just to get your back up, meanwhile others are doing something about it, how typical you’re all bull & no action. I take it you missed my earlier posts about my stance on immigration. You really are clueless.
Remind me again of your ‘stance on immigration’ anti v pro if I’ve got it wrong.While as I said no I don’t think that signing any bs petition will make any difference to the foregone conclusion which Merkel wants.The blanket change in status from illegal immigrants firstly to migrants and now ‘refugees’ all being part of her agenda.
Try reading some of the posts, not just making up things you think people might say. Go to the first post on page 8 of this very topic, I think it’s clear enough even for someone as one eyed as you.
BillyHunt:
Do you mean the verses in the Koran? I’ve no idea what’s in the Koran, or the bible or any religious books, I’ve not read any. I don’t need to place any faith in any alleged God or deity, I’ve seen too much from all faiths to have anything but distain for any religion. People will commit the most heinous crimes in the name of religion, but they are still just people, driven by their own ideas of gain, what book they read, the clothes they wear or the buildings they do it in is irrelevant. You could say catholic priests have ruined more lives in this country than any amount of Muslims could.
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
Thats the trouble with religion, all their books are open to abuse, the readers take it as they see fit, there are plenty examples. Ask any normal Muslim, they will tell you the Koran is a religion of peace, the bible preaches peace but says an eye for an eye.
My view is that sharia law will never become the norm in this country, I think those that do are paranoid & I don’t care if that upsets anyone.
Yes all religions are open to interpretation, but then again can you see other groups cutting people’s heads off, en masse? Running around France with kalashnikovs and all the rest. Nah.
Your bull crap excuses for not seeing a clear threat are pathetically transparent, you’re a deluded fool.
Oh, sharia courts are already here, maybe they’ll dissappear along with their growing population? Jesus christ…
None taken, you don’t see many other religions buggering alter boys but it seems to be a favourite of catholic priests. I saw plenty running around with bombs & guns a few short years ago right on your doorstep, do you actively discourage the Irish coming here?
I’m no fan of any religion, (atheist) they’re all poison - but none hold as much venom as Islam. That seems to bother you for some reason?
Stop diverting the attention off of the subject matter, is Islam good for the UK or not?
Carryfast:
Remind me again of your ‘stance on immigration’ anti v pro if I’ve got it wrong.While as I said no I don’t think that signing any bs petition will make any difference to the foregone conclusion which Merkel wants.The blanket change in status from illegal immigrants firstly to migrants and now ‘refugees’ all being part of her agenda.
Try reading some of the posts, not just making up things you think people might say. Go to the first post on page 8 of this very topic, I think it’s clear enough even for someone as one eyed as you.
Seems clear enough to me.You’re all for letting in as many who want to come here.Based on the usual Socialist/cheap labour alliance line that anyone who disagrees is a ■■■■.
Which seems to match what seems to be your support of the Lab/Con agenda elsewhere as opposed to UKIP.So now you’ve got what you want maybe you’re getting cold feet ?.IE Cameron and his bunch of pro immigration Con tossers is just jumping to Merkel’s tune so as I said there’s obviously no point in wasting my time with any anti immigration petition.As I said be careful what you wish ( vote ) for and to think you called Farage a loser.
Carryfast:
Remind me again of your ‘stance on immigration’ anti v pro if I’ve got it wrong.While as I said no I don’t think that signing any bs petition will make any difference to the foregone conclusion which Merkel wants.The blanket change in status from illegal immigrants firstly to migrants and now ‘refugees’ all being part of her agenda.
Try reading some of the posts, not just making up things you think people might say. Go to the first post on page 8 of this very topic, I think it’s clear enough even for someone as one eyed as you.
Seems clear enough to me.You’re all for letting in as many who want to come here.Based on the usual Socialist/cheap labour alliance line that anyone who disagrees is a ■■■■.
Which seems to match what seems to be your support of the Lab/Con agenda elsewhere as opposed to UKIP.So now you’ve got what you want maybe you’re getting cold feet ?.IE Cameron and his bunch of pro immigration Con tossers is just jumping to Merkel’s tune so as I said there’s obviously no point in wasting my time with any anti immigration petition.As I said be careful what you wish ( vote ) for and to think you called Farage a loser.
While the silence from France is deafening.Probably because an FN win is now hopefully a near certainty. [/quote
As usual you read things, I know, I’m assuming you do read, and put your own warped spin on things, you cannot even find the correct post to display. Why do you waste your time on here when you won’t even bother doing anything about the things you whine about? Your just another bitter & twisted armchair warrior with nothing to better to occupy their time. I’m happy I voted for a Tory win, and got a massive one, possibly, make that probably, because of mugs like you that whine about change but aren’t willing to get off your arse & do anything. You prefer to try to get support on a trucking forum for muppets that wouldn’t last 2 minutes on a world stage, you’re not bothered where theyre from or what they support as long as they aren’t what we have. As for farage, well what else could you call a person that’s failed to get elected 8 times, if that’s not a loser I don’t know what is. Didn’t I read one of your posts saying you weren’t sure about supporting him or his other mugs, you didn’t vote for him either, why was that again? You’re just another small, closed minded fool deluding themselves into thinking the French, or some other no hoper, will bring you to some sort of nirvana. Newsflash! It’s not going to happen.
Carryfast:
Seems clear enough to me.You’re all for letting in as many who want to come here.Based on the usual Socialist/cheap labour alliance line that anyone who disagrees is a ■■■■.
Which seems to match what seems to be your support of the Lab/Con agenda elsewhere as opposed to UKIP.So now you’ve got what you want maybe you’re getting cold feet ?.IE Cameron and his bunch of pro immigration Con tossers is just jumping to Merkel’s tune so as I said there’s obviously no point in wasting my time with any anti immigration petition.As I said be careful what you wish ( vote ) for and to think you called Farage a loser.
While the silence from France is deafening.Probably because an FN win is now hopefully a near certainty.
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As usual you read things, I know, I’m assuming you do read, and put your own warped spin on things, you cannot even find the correct post to display. Why do you waste your time on here when you won’t even bother doing anything about the things you whine about? Your just another bitter & twisted armchair warrior with nothing to better to occupy their time. I’m happy I voted for a Tory win, and got a massive one, possibly, make that probably, because of mugs like you that whine about change but aren’t willing to get off your arse & do anything. You prefer to try to get support on a trucking forum for muppets that wouldn’t last 2 minutes on a world stage, you’re not bothered where theyre from or what they support as long as they aren’t what we have. As for farage, well what else could you call a person that’s failed to get elected 8 times, if that’s not a loser I don’t know what is. Didn’t I read one of your posts saying you weren’t sure about supporting him or his other mugs, you didn’t vote for him either, why was that again? You’re just another small, closed minded fool deluding themselves into thinking the French, or some other no hoper, will bring you to some sort of nirvana. Newsflash! It’s not going to happen.
I linked the ‘correct’ post.The one where you’ve effectively said that anyone who doesn’t support Cameron’s and Merkel’s pro immigration agenda makes them a ■■■■.
As for who’s reading what correctly maybe you can point to any post where I said I didn’t actually vote for UKIP.As opposed to did vote for the Party but with reservations as to it’s commitment to an anti immigration agenda with real teeth and the contradiction between anti federalist and pro UK.While I certainly wouldn’t have been naive and plain stupid enough to think that voting for Cameron is the answer to those reservations.Let alone thinking that he and his bunch of grovelling idiots give a zb about any anti immigration petition when it’s obvious that Merkel is pulling his strings.
Meanwhile hopefully you’ve taken note of the reality of the ‘hordes’ heading our way and the flood gates that you and those like you have opened the country up to.While yes if anyone can stop them it will be Le Pen.Certainly not the naive bleeding heart Brits who can’t differentiate immigration from invasion when they see it.
I see you have trouble with figures as well as reading, the post I mentioned by number was page 8, that’s eight, first post on page eight, not half way down 7, that’s seven. Neither post mentions nazis in any form so I don’t know how you make the link, no change there I suppose, you’re well known for missing out relevant parts of posts that don’t fit your warped sense. I’ve never mentioned merkel or nazis, not once.
Are you saying you did vote ukip? Simple question, simple answer, one word.
The only hordes I see are hordes of paranoid posters on here, unwilling to do anything but whine on a truckers forum, oddly named given the number of posters that don’t drive trucks, hence my post about let’s all just kill ourselves now or kill everyone else, that’s the post you marked up by the way, how that links to the ■■■■ credo is a link forged in your brain cell.
BillyHunt:
The only hordes I see are hordes of paranoid posters on here, unwilling to do anything but whine on a truckers forum, oddly named given the number of posters that don’t drive trucks, hence my post about let’s all just kill ourselves now or kill everyone else, that’s the post you marked up by the way, how that links to the ■■■■ credo is a link forged in your brain cell.
Who would come on a truckers forum if they did not drive a truck? Is there some kudos to be had from being here? Am I missing something?
Calling all the pretenders - whos got the balls to come on here and admit they dont have an LGV license■■?
(not expecting a flood of responses, if i`m honest!)
Bizarre innit? You can be whatever you want to pretend to be in Internet land, and some choose to pretend to be lorry drivers! Personally I split my time between duties as an international assassin, a stunt ■■■■ for the ■■■■ industry, and a space explorer. No accounting for folk is there?
I’ve nothing to hide, my class 1 expired a couple or so years ago and due to the dreaded drivers CPC and having to take an extended hospital medical I never renewed it. (plus the fact I can earn nearly three times as much elsewhere for doing absolutely next to nowt).
Should I cancel my membership of Trucknet ?
