Something I’m proud of when talking about the Jewish “question”.
Many know the story of how Denmark rescued 8,000 Jews from the Nazis by smuggling them to Sweden in fishing boats.
Few, however, know the story of how all 50,000 Bulgarian Jews were saved. For decades, all records were sealed by the Bulgarian Communists in an attempt to prevent glorification of the King, the Church, and the non-Communist parliamentarians who at great personal risk stood up to the Germans.
Until the Communist downfall in 1991, the story remained untold, the last great secret of the Holocaust era.
Bulgaria is a small country which, at the outset of World War II, had 7 million people. The Jewish community, having lived in Bulgaria since the 2nd century CE, numbered approximately 50,000.
Thus Bulgaria became the only nation in Europe to save its entire Jewish population from the ■■■■ death camps, and King Boris has the distinction of being the only world leader to defy Hitler face-to-face during the war. (King Boris died under mysterious circumstances in 1943.)
Of the 50,000 Bulgarian Jews, some 40,000 went to Israel after the War. Among those was Michael Bar Zohar, who later served in the Israeli Knesset and wrote the remarkable book, Beyond Hitler’s Grasp, detailing the rescue of Bulgarian Jewry.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
BillyHunt:
If “we” know they are here already why do “we” still keep going on about them sneaking in with these boat people?
I’ve no interest in India, American war of independence, or any other historic guff you come up with. All I know is we have a perfectly good enemy just over the Irish Sea who are quite happy to kill us, and they done that to a lot more innocent people than any Muslims recently, and I’m not trying to paint them as friendly, you’re making stuff up again. As I recall from recent history, that’s around the late 1960s, the army went in to support the Catholics as they were being picked on by the Protestant. They rewarded the soldiers by killing them, nice people the Irish.
So your relation got killed while doing what he signed up for, well [zb] happens I’m afraid, same as it did for six of my mates over the years, killed by the Irish for doing their job. Oddly enough I’ve not had anyone liked by Muslims.
No surprise that you don’t want to compare the Irish situation with that of the American War of Independence.Being that the Irish were/are not much if any more of a threat to us than the Americans are.The difference being that,as I said,the American situation wasn’t complicated by recognition and partition of the loyalist cause there,as in Ireland.The resulting argument and split in the Nationalist cause having killed far more of their own by their own than all the Brit casualties in total.Collins having been one.On that note I’m guessing that you and your mates wouldn’t have been so keen on going back to America to finish what the red coats started because you’d have got a bigger kicking than the Brits did there in 1812 and before.Bearing in mind that is effectively what the British Army did in Ireland.As for being called in to defend the Nationalists in Northern Ireland that’s total bs just like the 1972 bloody Sunday whitewash.
If you really think that the Islamic world is less of a threat to us than the Irish ever were,let alone now that the realisation has finally dawned among the Northern Irish nationalist cause that Collins was right,then carry on with such bs thinking and see where it takes the country.While your obvious inability to understand the risk of adding to those we’ve already got,with an even more battle hardened bunch of psychos to join them,being part of that lack of understanding.
There you go again, banging on about American war of independence, trying to compare it with your mates the Irish, Apples & oranges I’m afraid. What do you mean by “you’d” don’t you mean “we’d” assuming you are British of course, hard to say considering your anti everything British stance. Tell me why the British army went in to NI in the late sixties then, and try the real reason not some pro Irish anti Brit biased view, facts, that’s proper facts not some of your usual made up crap you think should be facts. Collins again, another mug killed by his own, you can certainly pick a loser.
Dolph: Something I’m proud of when talking about the Jewish “question”.
Many know the story of how Denmark rescued 8,000 Jews from the Nazis by smuggling them to Sweden in fishing boats.
Few, however, know the story of how all 50,000 Bulgarian Jews were saved. For decades, all records were sealed by the Bulgarian Communists in an attempt to prevent glorification of the King, the Church, and the non-Communist parliamentarians who at great personal risk stood up to the Germans.
Until the Communist downfall in 1991, the story remained untold, the last great secret of the Holocaust era.
Bulgaria is a small country which, at the outset of World War II, had 7 million people. The Jewish community, having lived in Bulgaria since the 2nd century CE, numbered approximately 50,000.
Thus Bulgaria became the only nation in Europe to save its entire Jewish population from the ■■■■ death camps, and King Boris has the distinction of being the only world leader to defy Hitler face-to-face during the war. (King Boris died under mysterious circumstances in 1943.)
Of the 50,000 Bulgarian Jews, some 40,000 went to Israel after the War. Among those was Michael Bar Zohar, who later served in the Israeli Knesset and wrote the remarkable book, Beyond Hitler’s Grasp, detailing the rescue of Bulgarian Jewry.
The difference in this case being that we aren’t dealing with a truly persecuted ethnic group who’ve been victimised through no fault of their own.We’re dealing with a degenerate unstable often vicious group who are in societal meltdown morally and economically.Who are quite likely to spread their ‘issues’ in the process of supposedly looking for ‘asylum’.
While the Jewish question was always the total opposite in being a united stable society.Who realised that standing and fighting to create a nation state of their own where nature intended was the solution to their problems.As opposed to running away from them.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
Yeah I would definitely would have thought it will top the 100k within 6 months. But will anything be done? Probably not, at least it proves we’re not all signing the death warrant of this country.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
You got around to answering my question? Seems to escaped your notice.
BillyHunt:
If “we” know they are here already why do “we” still keep going on about them sneaking in with these boat people?
I’ve no interest in India, American war of independence, or any other historic guff you come up with. All I know is we have a perfectly good enemy just over the Irish Sea who are quite happy to kill us, and they done that to a lot more innocent people than any Muslims recently, and I’m not trying to paint them as friendly, you’re making stuff up again. As I recall from recent history, that’s around the late 1960s, the army went in to support the Catholics as they were being picked on by the Protestant. They rewarded the soldiers by killing them, nice people the Irish.
So your relation got killed while doing what he signed up for, well [zb] happens I’m afraid, same as it did for six of my mates over the years, killed by the Irish for doing their job. Oddly enough I’ve not had anyone liked by Muslims.
No surprise that you don’t want to compare the Irish situation with that of the American War of Independence.Being that the Irish were/are not much if any more of a threat to us than the Americans are.The difference being that,as I said,the American situation wasn’t complicated by recognition and partition of the loyalist cause there,as in Ireland.The resulting argument and split in the Nationalist cause having killed far more of their own by their own than all the Brit casualties in total.Collins having been one.On that note I’m guessing that you and your mates wouldn’t have been so keen on going back to America to finish what the red coats started because you’d have got a bigger kicking than the Brits did there in 1812 and before.Bearing in mind that is effectively what the British Army did in Ireland.As for being called in to defend the Nationalists in Northern Ireland that’s total bs just like the 1972 bloody Sunday whitewash.
If you really think that the Islamic world is less of a threat to us than the Irish ever were,let alone now that the realisation has finally dawned among the Northern Irish nationalist cause that Collins was right,then carry on with such bs thinking and see where it takes the country.While your obvious inability to understand the risk of adding to those we’ve already got,with an even more battle hardened bunch of psychos to join them,being part of that lack of understanding.
There you go again, banging on about American war of independence, trying to compare it with your mates the Irish, Apples & oranges I’m afraid. What do you mean by “you’d” don’t you mean “we’d” assuming you are British of course, hard to say considering your anti everything British stance. Tell me why the British army went in to NI in the late sixties then, and try the real reason not some pro Irish anti Brit biased view, facts, that’s proper facts not some of your usual made up crap you think should be facts. Collins again, another mug killed by his own, you can certainly pick a loser.
Firstly no I’m not British I’m mostly English and small part Irish.As I said both Bloody Sundays say everything about why the ‘British’ Army was in Ireland.IE trying to maintain the UK federation against nationalist breakup at all costs.Just as in the case of the US war of independence.As opposed to your made up pro British crap.As for Collins ironically,far from being a mug and a loser,having fought for his country and taken ( most of ) it back.He was then actually ( rightly ) on the same side as you were ( supposedly ) on in being opposed to the anti treaty,anti partition,continuity factions of the IRA.His position in that regard being exactly where we are now with the peace process.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
410,000 made up of a combination of the immigrant vote the Socialist vote and those looking for more cheap labour.Meanwhile the opposing millions are saying why bother let them take the zb place because it’s already a lost cause.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
410,000 made up of a combination of the immigrant vote the Socialist vote and those looking for more cheap labour.Meanwhile the opposing millions are saying why bother let them take the zb place because it’s already a lost cause.
Not to mention they’re all probably under the age of 25. Internet, n’ all that.
Still undecided.Probably because I think things have already reached the point where I’m alienated enough from my own supposed government to think that there’s no point in getting involved with a rigged foregone conclusion.In which the national interest has already been thrown to a combination of what the Chinese Communist Party says and Communist infiltration of the EU Merkel being the prime mover in that regard.IE it’s doubtful that this can even be sorted by the democratic electoral process being that process can no longer be trusted in such an environment let alone a petition.On that note the whole thing now depends on wether things can be turned around in that regard in France.If Le Pen wins out we ‘might’ have a chance.If not the idea of the nation state at least in Europe is probably finished and the Socialists have won.
Rhetorical question perhaps but mainly because I didnt want to and because behind all the bs and hidden agendas there just maybe some truth out there and some genuine folk who need help.
So having weighed up all the arguments and hysterics I have fallen onto the side of the fence that is pro help another human being out, this wont reserve me 70 odd virgins in paradise (id rather have a couple of dirty slags anyway), this wont even reserve me a place in heaven, but having had a near death experience my gut tells me Hinduism is the closest one to go for so bollox to it all.
Or just maybe im a foster a fanatic type of gal.
Oh im supposed to point out how waking up each morning and having to choose what breakfast cereal to have is a bit different from having to choose how to survive, but whats the point…
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
You got around to answering my question? Seems to escaped your notice.
Seems like many things do…
Do you mean the verses in the Koran? I’ve no idea what’s in the Koran, or the bible or any religious books, I’ve not read any. I don’t need to place any faith in any alleged God or deity, I’ve seen too much from all faiths to have anything but distain for any religion. People will commit the most heinous crimes in the name of religion, but they are still just people, driven by their own ideas of gain, what book they read, the clothes they wear or the buildings they do it in is irrelevant. You could say catholic priests have ruined more lives in this country than any amount of Muslims could.
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
410,000 made up of a combination of the immigrant vote the Socialist vote and those looking for more cheap labour.Meanwhile the opposing millions are saying why bother let them take the zb place because it’s already a lost cause.
The combination, or your biased spin on it, is irrelevant, the fact is they have got off their backsides & voted, if your millions cannot even be bothered to place a few clicks on a computer then they deserve everything they get.
Still undecided.Probably because I think things have already reached the point where I’m alienated enough from my own supposed government to think that there’s no point in getting involved with a rigged foregone conclusion.In which the national interest has already been thrown to a combination of what the Chinese Communist Party says and Communist infiltration of the EU Merkel being the prime mover in that regard.IE it’s doubtful that this can even be sorted by the democratic electoral process being that process can no longer be trusted in such an environment let alone a petition.On that note the whole thing now depends on wether things can be turned around in that regard in France.If Le Pen wins out we ‘might’ have a chance.If not the idea of the nation state at least in Europe is probably finished and the Socialists have won.
Yes that’s the way forward, sit on your hands and do nothing, then hope, incorrectly, that the French will pull you out of the crap, because we all know they’re good at that. Doing nothing but complain, that’s the British way.
Carryfast:
Firstly no I’m not British I’m mostly English and small part Irish.As I said both Bloody Sundays say everything about why the ‘British’ Army was in Ireland.IE trying to maintain the UK federation against nationalist breakup at all costs.Just as in the case of the US war of independence.As opposed to your made up pro British crap.As for Collins ironically,far from being a mug and a loser,having fought for his country and taken ( most of ) it back.He was then actually ( rightly ) on the same side as you were ( supposedly ) on in being opposed to the anti treaty,anti partition,continuity factions of the IRA.His position in that regard being exactly where we are now with the peace process.
I think you’ll find the army went in in 69 to help the ruc, they having been exhausted after policing three days of protest by the catholic community. They were protesting civil rights abuses by the majority Protestants. The Catholics even cheered the army when they came in, not that this lasted long. Now I know this is just pro British crap, or the true facts as we prefer to call it, but it seems that, no matter what you do over there they manage to find a way to ■■■■ it up.
So who did kill your hero Collins?
and it’s doing quite well, over 45,000 signatures so far, question is though if it gets the 100k signatures needed for a debate will it get one,? All this we are taking more and there’s nothing you can do about it, fuels racism, Government should give those who will end up paying tax payers , and those who will be on the receiving end of further cuts that this callous government will no doubt make as a result of this bs a say they should of held a referendum
The other one currently has 410,000, you need to get out more.
You got around to answering my question? Seems to escaped your notice.
Seems like many things do…
Do you mean the verses in the Koran? I’ve no idea what’s in the Koran, or the bible or any religious books, I’ve not read any. I don’t need to place any faith in any alleged God or deity, I’ve seen too much from all faiths to have anything but distain for any religion. People will commit the most heinous crimes in the name of religion, but they are still just people, driven by their own ideas of gain, what book they read, the clothes they wear or the buildings they do it in is irrelevant. You could say catholic priests have ruined more lives in this country than any amount of Muslims could.
There is hateful verses in the Koran, I just don’t want it brushed off as all “paranoia”.
Not all muslims wish death on us, I would never say such a ridiculous thing, however, there is clearly a problem with their ideology, we’re seeing it the world over and there is no denying it, and there is verses in the Koran that justify their actions.
Basically the raw materials are there for evil if a Muslim chooses. I don’t see any other group causing chaos across the world like they’re doing at the moment.
And Islam and democracy cannot Co-exist, and I sure don’t want sharia law or dhimmitude. As crazy as it sounds, With a Muslim majority we are heading straight for this in the long term. They’re out breeding us by far and no one seems to care. Our country will change forever and pardon me if that upsets me.
