What it is to have a western interpretation of the world and people. I met a young (female ) aid relief worker who hadnât yet been out on assignment, a Brit, just graduated from uni. Lovely to hear the enthusiasm from her. She had that young touch of western eyed basic out-of-the-box liberalism that will get crushed and re defined very quickly. Only to be expected. She did come across as quite âJanet and Johnâ in her nice fluffy way. She clearly though sheâd be going out, spreading some love and I think she was imagining scenes of graciousness and thankful people, if in a slightly feel good about yourself way.
Sheâll have a bit of a shock. It gets to you at first but you ignore it in the end and become numb to it after a while. Then it gets to you again. Iâve worked into some nastier spots im Aaaafrica, schlepped back and forth to the sub continent and some of the dodgier parts of the world: ideals and what you thought was clear cut gets all messed up and confused. The mistake to make is believing people think like everyone else on the planet. Culture changes people as well poverty. Once the quest for food, water, safety and means to self sustain are achieved you then find out the little nuances of ideals, beliefs and ways of thinking. Recent flight I heard about from country in sub continent to one country (middle east). A guy had a heart attack on board. Steps took 20 mins to be delivered to the aircraft. The bloke died. Commander challenged the police who attended, their response "whereâs he from? Xxxx country? Whatâs the problem then? Crazy old world
Ha, thatâs not the ignorance I was talking about. But good luck anyway with those views, maybe have a nice holiday to NI and educate yourself a little. But typical I suppose, for a Little Englander to think its all about them. And people wonder why many Scots want to leave
kr79:
Northern Ireland is part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. Call someone from northern ireland english wouldnt go down well wether there celtic or rangers.
This is what I was getting at Carryfast. Ireland has never been part of England, and Iâm actually surprised by Seamus OâCarryfast for making this simple mistake. Would be like saying Wales is England, or Scotland. Northern Ireland is united with Great Britain, hence The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as KR said, the clue is in the name.
The union with Northern Ireland is all about England.Which is why the Ulster Unionists fly the Union flag or the English flag they have none of their own because they have allegiance to England only.Assuming Scotland leave the union that only leaves the English flag in either case.
As for the topic the latest news is that the immigrants in question are supposedly Afghan Sikhs. Which sounds about as believable as non English Ulster Unionists.
What has this got to do with this topic and both sides have about 5 different flegs
switchlogic:
Ha, thatâs not the ignorance I was talking about. But good luck anyway with those views, maybe have a nice holiday to NI and educate yourself a little. But typical I suppose, for a Little Englander to think its all about them. And people wonder why many Scots want to leave
I think youâve missed the point that I do have some background to base my conclusions on.Wether itâs Scotland,Ireland or Wales,but especially Ireland,as I said the idea of the UK union is all about England.IE no England no union.
kr79:
Northern Ireland is part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. Call someone from northern ireland english wouldnt go down well wether there celtic or rangers.
This is what I was getting at Carryfast. Ireland has never been part of England, and Iâm actually surprised by Seamus OâCarryfast for making this simple mistake. Would be like saying Wales is England, or Scotland. Northern Ireland is united with Great Britain, hence The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as KR said, the clue is in the name.
The union with Northern Ireland is all about England.Which is why the Ulster Unionists fly the Union flag or the English flag they have none of their own because they have allegiance to England only.Assuming Scotland leave the union that only leaves the English flag in either case.
As for the topic the latest news is that the immigrants in question are supposedly Afghan Sikhs. Which sounds about as believable as non English Ulster Unionists.
What has this got to do with this topic and both sides have about 5 different flegs
As far as I know thereâs only one Irish flag and two Ulster ones.In the case of Ulster both being all about the link with England ?.
How it got off topic is a long story as usual as a result of switchlogicâs issues.
Getting back on topic where do the Afghan Sikhs come from.
And Carryfasts love of spouting misinformed bo locks as per usual. I notice no links this timeâŚcouldnât find a single thing to back up your ridiculous beliefâs?
kr79:
Northern Ireland is part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. Call someone from northern ireland english wouldnt go down well wether there celtic or rangers.
This is what I was getting at Carryfast. Ireland has never been part of England, and Iâm actually surprised by Seamus OâCarryfast for making this simple mistake. Would be like saying Wales is England, or Scotland. Northern Ireland is united with Great Britain, hence The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as KR said, the clue is in the name.
The union with Northern Ireland is all about England.Which is why the Ulster Unionists fly the Union flag or the English flag they have none of their own because they have allegiance to England only.Assuming Scotland leave the union that only leaves the English flag in either case.
As for the topic the latest news is that the immigrants in question are supposedly Afghan Sikhs. Which sounds about as believable as non English Ulster Unionists.
What has this got to do with this topic and both sides have about 5 different flegs
As far as I know thereâs only one Irish flag and two Ulster ones.In the case of Ulster both being all about the link with England ?.
How it got off topic is a long story as usual as a result of switchlogicâs issues.
Getting back on topic where do the Afghan Sikhs come from.
Have you been to northern ireland before
Back on topic itâs sad that thatâs what they have to do to try and get a better life R.I.P
To be fair I think that most news reports also said they were from India so Iâm not the only one who was surprised that there are also Sikhs in Afghanistan.
To be fair I think that most news reports also said they were from India so Iâm not the only one who was surprised that there are also Sikhs in Afghanistan.
Itâs still sad that this is what they have to do for a better life
BillyHunt:
So what happened in Ireland when the potato famine was in full swing? Did they all stay and work their way out of it or did the scatter all over the known world to escape poverty?
They scattered due to the policies being implanted by the British government of the day, which was to suppress the Irish people. Take a trip to Donegal and see the famine village museum if you thought the UK slums were bad in the 19th century try living in a peat bog it was stay and starve or emigrate, listen to the words of The Fields of Athenry. And yes during the potato famine people did work for a meagre ration a day who do you think built all the stone walls in the Mourne Mountains? Think it would be called slave labour today and unlike the Germans who have had to pay reparations for their use of slave labour the Irish had to make do with an apology from Tony Blair!!!
Very true itâs the same for the immigrants today they are just trying to have a better life for there familyâs
I think you will find most protestants in northern ireland come from a scotish background Geoffrey hence my mention of celtic and rangers to define the two groups.
Outside ulster the orange order is a pretty big thing in glasgow and edinbourgh. And there isa bit of a following in the north west round liverpool.
The unionists in scotland are well behind the no to indipenince vote as it breaks the union and could too be the begining of the end for northern ireland.
kr79:
I think you will find most protestants in northern ireland come from a scotish background Geoffrey hence my mention of celtic and rangers to define the two groups.
Outside ulster the orange order is a pretty big thing in glasgow and edinbourgh. And there isa bit of a following in the north west round liverpool.
The unionists in scotland are well behind the no to indipenince vote as it breaks the union and could too be the begining of the end for northern ireland.
Even if Scotland doesnât become independent doesnât mean that northern ireland wouldnât get the choice was has this got to do with this topic
kr79:
I think you will find most protestants in northern ireland come from a scotish background Geoffrey hence my mention of celtic and rangers to define the two groups.
Outside ulster the orange order is a pretty big thing in glasgow and edinbourgh. And there isa bit of a following in the north west round liverpool.
The unionists in scotland are well behind the no to indipenince vote as it breaks the union and could too be the begining of the end for northern ireland.
So exactly what and who is it that the âunionistsâ in both Scotland and Ulster want to be,and so far are,âunitedâ in a âunionâ with.As I said the âunionâ flags applying in both places are a clue.As was/is the Ulster banner.
) aid relief worker who hadnât yet been out on assignment, a Brit, just graduated from uni. Lovely to hear the enthusiasm from her. She had that young touch of western eyed basic out-of-the-box liberalism that will get crushed and re defined very quickly. Only to be expected. She did come across as quite âJanet and Johnâ in her nice fluffy way. She clearly though sheâd be going out, spreading some love and I think she was imagining scenes of graciousness and thankful people, if in a slightly feel good about yourself way.
Which sounds about as believable as non English Ulster Unionists.
