The Sarge:
Whenever I pick a container up from a port I have to drive out through a scanner. No idea what it scans for though…
Are they the ones you drive through slowly? They have them at ports but like you I’ve no idea what they do. Maybe someone can enlighten us. I know the one at train terminal has QuintQ on it which is privatised spin off from the MOD, I think
You would think that those with Irish connections would pipe down about taking less fortunate people in given their history wouldn’t you.
Perhaps it was a game of hide and Sikh . that went too far 
On a human basis it’s a terrible tragedy and I do genuinely sympathise with their plight, but blame must be apportioned to whoever is responsible for making this type of clandestine immigration attractive to the people concerned.
From our perspective, the population of the UK has increased by around 10 million in 20 years without our having made the improvements in infrastructure, or the house building to cope with that. Uncontrolled immigration has to stop, period.
switchlogic:
The Sarge:
Whenever I pick a container up from a port I have to drive out through a scanner. No idea what it scans for though…Are they the ones you drive through slowly? They have them at ports but like you I’ve no idea what they do. Maybe someone can enlighten us. I know the one at train terminal has QuintQ on it which is privatised spin off from the MOD, I think
My nephew operates and train people on them things. he travels all over the world but never gets out of the airports.
He says they can scan a fully loaded vehicle and it is like a souped up airport xray machine. it also does a whole lot more to read whats inside the vehicle but wouldn’t expand on what exactly. 
Carryfast:
tommy t:
What really boils my ■■■■ is even when those who are here illegally commit a serious crime /s are not deported after serving their sentence,( the case of the illegal killing a child driving a car and leaving the scene) Because whilst waiting to go to court some British woman(i can think of more appropriate names for her) claimed that they had a child together, and knowing ukba doesn’t split up families, used that to avoid deportation IMO they all should of been deported instead in that case, or the case of those who hijacked a plane several years ago, which was forced to land in blighty where given hotel accommodation and never deported, what signals does [zb] like this send out to the wider world ? is it any wonder why we are swamped with them,They are even rioting in Calais over the best places get on board our trucks, this IMO is no more than a financial terrorism attack on the UK their goal to bankrupt the country because we have too many nimbies , but it isn’t those nimbies who are paying is it?
Most of them are not fleeing persecution or death, more like criminals on the run that have soft touch blighty in their sights as their next victim
Straw lets eight Afghans stay in UK | Stansted hijack 2000 | The Guardian
Failed asylum seeker who left girl to die allowed to remain in Britain
If it was all about ‘fleeing persecution’ they wouldn’t want or need to get right across Europe and then across the channel to a small over populated Island like Britain.
Well they claim this, and IMO none have the right or should have the right to live here on handouts, there rightful place to claim asylum is the first safe country they arrive at not england as in 99.9% of cases they are scamming us as said it’s another form of terrorism of the financial type designed break us, about time the government put people who pay it’s wages first and stopped the free meal tickets handouts make the uk a less lucrative chioce to claim asylum or become a slave worker in
BillyHunt:
You would think that those with Irish connections would pipe down about taking less fortunate people in given their history wouldn’t you.
At least in my case it was more a case of the English wanting ‘the connection’ than the ‘Irish’.Being that my great uncle was shot for the ‘crime’ of trying to kick the English out of most of Ireland and succeeding but then unluckily for him ended up on the ‘wrong’ side of the resulting border. 
The result being that there was no one else left to keep his family which mostly went to America but ‘one’ was brought here.Where her looks and personality obviously proved good enough for an Englishman ( my maternal Grandfather ) to want to marry her.
Which is a bit different to the case of the Indian sub continent in firstly fighting to get rid of the Brits and then finding out that they can’t run their own affairs without British leadership and civilisation after all.
But not very different to what this thread was originally about which was people trying to find a better life abroad.
switchlogic:
But not very different to what this thread was originally about which was people trying to find a better life abroad.
Not really there’s a big difference between mass movement of people,based on what is just a hypocritical admission,that certain parts of the world aren’t good enough to run their own countries.Which then start shouting for foreign aid of whatever type from ones that are often with the cheap labour angle being used by those countries as a kick back.As opposed to just limited amounts of justifiable immigration.It seems obvious that this country is being subjected to an ongoing historic policy of the former.
Of course Carryfast, only a handful of Irish ever came to the UK and Ireland has never taken a penny from the UK…
Double standards, immigration is ok if you have recent descendants from there or you ‘approve’ of the country in question, but not if you don’t. I’m am fairly amazed though going by your opinions to find a large chunk of you family from not that long ago is from another country, all be it under British control for a large part of the time, just like immigrants who come here nowadays
switchlogic:
Of course Carryfast, only a handful of Irish ever came to the UK and Ireland has never taken a penny from the UK…Double standards, immigration is ok if you have recent descendants from there or you ‘approve’ of the country in question, but not if you don’t. I’m am fairly amazed though going by your opinions to find a large chunk of you family from not that long ago is from another country, all be it under British control for a large part of the time, just like immigrants who come here nowadays
How does a maternal grandmother,brought here in exceptional circumstances,as a direct result of English hostilities in Ireland,who then married into an English family together with a totally English paternal background get turned into a ‘large chunk’ of my family background.As it stands ethnically I’m at least 75% English with a 50% Irish mother.But who is actually 100 % English anyway because that’s how the English/Irish border was drawn when my Grandmother was brought here. 
As for those in question or in fact anyone from the Indian sub continent arriving here since at least 1947,that’s not exactly the same thing as someone brought here as a child from what was,unluckily for her older brother,at that point and still is,a part of England.As for British money going to Ireland I’d guess that India/Pakistan have taken a lot more in the form of aid and looking after their ex pat populations here since their independence.
I skim read that and don’t really care enough to get into another long winded pointless debate with you. Interesting little nugget that Ireland was actually England back then. And there’s me thinking it was the British Empire. Now pop to Northern Ireland and call some of the inhabitants English, best tell them to change the new Welcome to Northern Ireland signs to Welcome to England while you’re at it
So what happened in Ireland when the potato famine was in full swing? Did they all stay and work their way out of it or did the scatter all over the known world to escape poverty?
BillyHunt:
So what happened in Ireland when the potato famine was in full swing? Did they all stay and work their way out of it or did the scatter all over the known world to escape poverty?
Indeed, a potato famine made worse by the British, sorry English taking all they could.
In light of this new info on Carryfasts family history he should be forever known as Seamus O’Carryfast
switchlogic:
I skim read that and don’t really care enough to get into another long winded pointless debate with you. Interesting little nugget that Ireland was actually England back then. And there’s me thinking it was the British Empire. Now pop to Northern Ireland and call some of the inhabitants English, best tell them to change the new Welcome to Northern Ireland signs to Welcome to England while you’re at it
In this case we’re actually talking North of the Irish free state border soon after the Anglo Irish treaty was implemented in 1922.Not South of the Khyber Pass after 1947.Assuming that Ulster isn’t a part of England then which country is it that,like Scotland,Ulster and the Ulster Unionists are united with being that it obviously isn’t Ireland.
Yes there are plenty of people living in Ulster who don’t regard themselves as living in England.My Great Uncle being one.That was until he was unlucky enough to have become a victim of the implications of being part of the ‘wrong side’ on the ‘wrong side’ of the border.Although even that contained the irony that even if he’d have been living on the ‘right side’ of the border he probably then would have been involved in the Irish civil war on Collins’ side in support of that same border agreement. 
As for pre Free State Ireland having mostly historically just been a part of the ‘Commonwealth’ like India not exactly.More like just another part of the UK like Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland is part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. Call someone from northern ireland english wouldnt go down well wether there celtic or rangers.
kr79:
Northern Ireland is part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. Call someone from northern ireland english wouldnt go down well wether there celtic or rangers.
This is what I was getting at Carryfast. Ireland has never been part of England, and I’m actually surprised by Seamus O’Carryfast for making this simple mistake. Would be like saying Wales is England, or Scotland. Northern Ireland is united with Great Britain, hence The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as KR said, the clue is in the name.
BillyHunt:
So what happened in Ireland when the potato famine was in full swing? Did they all stay and work their way out of it or did the scatter all over the known world to escape poverty?
They scattered due to the policies being implanted by the British government of the day, which was to suppress the Irish people. Take a trip to Donegal and see the famine village museum if you thought the UK slums were bad in the 19th century try living in a peat bog it was stay and starve or emigrate, listen to the words of The Fields of Athenry. And yes during the potato famine people did work for a meagre ration a day who do you think built all the stone walls in the Mourne Mountains? Think it would be called slave labour today and unlike the Germans who have had to pay reparations for their use of slave labour the Irish had to make do with an apology from Tony Blair!!!
switchlogic:
kr79:
Northern Ireland is part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. Call someone from northern ireland english wouldnt go down well wether there celtic or rangers.This is what I was getting at Carryfast. Ireland has never been part of England, and I’m actually surprised by Seamus O’Carryfast for making this simple mistake. Would be like saying Wales is England, or Scotland. Northern Ireland is united with Great Britain, hence The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as KR said, the clue is in the name.
The union with Northern Ireland is all about England.Which is why the Ulster Unionists fly the Union flag or the English flag they have none of their own because they have allegiance to England only.Assuming Scotland leave the union that only leaves the English flag in either case.
As for the topic the latest news is that the immigrants in question are supposedly Afghan Sikhs. Which sounds about as believable as non English Ulster Unionists.
My god Carryfast, the ignorance in that post has left me lost for words…